The Woodshed

[Pseudonymous]

I am not the least bit interested in breaking anyone's will. Nor do I care to be part of a buyer's consortium calculated to keep desperate people down & out for the sake of saving a few coins in my pursuit of blowjobs & buggery. As long as a provider makes reasonable efforts to be attractive, gives me what I want, doesn't rip me off & does NOT leave me sitting in a goddamned parking lot, I will give her what she asks. Within reason, of course. Clearly, we all have differences of opinion as to what is reasonable, which is why the hobby is a stratified market, within which providers move up & down.

I attribute the high donation requirements to be a function of lower provider availability & the available ones wanting hazard pay (Mandy3 X obviously understands that angle, which figures). I predict an uptick in supply & demand as things begin to loosen up again, with more mongers & more providers pushing prices down as the increased number of providers scramble for market share in a resurgent market.

The hobby is in austerity mode right now. The providers working now know that many mongers are not playing right now & conclude, perhaps correctly, that the ones calling are the most desperate sex addicts.

Basically, a lot of this boils down to who is more desperate. Sad, huh?

Honestly how often have you found someone who meets all those requirements? I have a few times but the price points we're getting into the 2. 0 range. These jax girls just aren't worth that.

Maybe I'm spoiled from the OBT days on the late aughts when you'd get 8/10 on SW scale for. 4 or for even the mid 2010's when PH was the best it was in probably forever.

[OneForTheGlory]

I'm bad at reading sarcasm over the net. If you been in this hobby a few months you will see pimps. I'd say 90% of SW got pimps, and that carries over to the providers I'd say an easy 40-60% in jax have pimps. Being very liberal with those #'s. You can go out anytime of the day to the hotspots and see pimps. If you have not seen pimps around hotels, you should get out of the hobby, because you probably end up down or with the dear ol unc. I will say, atleast in Jax pimps are dumb as hell, compared with pimps from 2-3 decades ago. They literally walk the streets behind their merch. One, Cops see that and remember their faces, 2 alot of mongers not going to pick up a chick when theres a dude hovering around.

Remember way back when, they was about business, no socializing with the gals all day (which is what I see today), literally talking to these does for hours. Like mention before, knew of some, bc we crossed paths alot, he used to show pics of new merch, but the game has changed. Pimps are essentially part-time DBs.

Where you think these does go to sleep, they usually cramped into the db run down candy shack.

Do agree with the report that it is hard for some of these gals to get out of the game. One, they make no money with a pimp usually for shelter, "protection", or a habit. 2, the pimp know their identity so just like with that korean scandal, if they try to go legit, they will threaten them with blackmail, or people around them. 3, If they try to go independent, these mofos are petty as hell. So they will keep tryiing to get the girl back, or keep robbing her.

Here are just a few ads where YOU SHOULD KNOW there is a Pimp or DB behind the scene:

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...l/333375118279

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...r/885776425205

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...e/536804010881

If that stripper bill doesn't get defeated, you probably see more young gals with pimps, bc they going to start trying to get it off the streets. You ever wonder why alot of ads say no pimps or black males, that's why. The cycle continues.

I do agree with you however, its not us that keep these gals in the streets, bc if they wasnt selling they're goods, the next thing is drugs, which is more deadly.

Minimum wage is what 7. 5? So again being a little liberal with the rate I'd say 9 hr is what most jobs is paying, (I know walgreens is like 8 sum an hr) . Whats 9 x8. ONLY 72 BUCKS A DAY!! 360 a week 720 every 2 weeks. ONLY at most 1,440 a month. YEARLY that's less than 20 k. How the FUDGE you post to live off that especially in florida. Two jobs sounds admirable, but its shit truly. NOOne should talk that shid up like its a good thing. I did two jobs, but not out of necessity 1 job was making 60 sum a year close to 70 benefits all that, and I was just in a prime that I could do another job to reinvest into myself. Yet alot of people don't do that especially lower income households, unless they take a leap of faith, theres not enough time in the week from working 2 jobs to reinvest into yourself through learning, trade so in the future you are good. You are worried about the next meal, or bill. That shid is dumb. Which is why I cannot understand sections in this stimulus bill. Watch when this event pass, you will see alot of people getting laid off. As history has shown. Which if I can remember in the 2016 tax bill, wasnt their something that provided funds for low wage workers visas from asia to come here and work?

Your not kidding companies in Jacksonville are whacked out of they're minds paying people that much hourly. It's not the 1970's where that could cover for most things. Heck even 12 bones a hour isn't cutting it. But tbh when your a girl working this game you kind of invite the possibility of being in dangerous situations real talk. And working in this line of work in Jacksonville just ramps up the danger level. But I get why they don't want to see pimps and I get the correlation of pimps and blacks. But it is incredibly annoying and frustrating when a girl refuses to see you due to the color of your skin.

[Dan1978]

I'm bad at reading sarcasm over the net. If you been in this hobby a few months you will see pimps. I'd say 90% of SW got pimps, and that carries over to the providers I'd say an easy 40-60% in jax have pimps. Being very liberal with those #'s. You can go out anytime of the day to the hotspots and see pimps. If you have not seen pimps around hotels, you should get out of the hobby, because you probably end up down or with the dear ol unc. I will say, atleast in Jax pimps are dumb as hell, compared with pimps from 2-3 decades ago. They literally walk the streets behind their merch. One, Cops see that and remember their faces, 2 alot of mongers not going to pick up a chick when theres a dude hovering around.

Remember way back when, they was about business, no socializing with the gals all day (which is what I see today), literally talking to these does for hours. Like mention before, knew of some, bc we crossed paths alot, he used to show pics of new merch, but the game has changed. Pimps are essentially part-time DBs.

Where you think these does go to sleep, they usually cramped into the db run down candy shack.

Do agree with the report that it is hard for some of these gals to get out of the game. One, they make no money with a pimp usually for shelter, "protection", or a habit. 2, the pimp know their identity so just like with that korean scandal, if they try to go legit, they will threaten them with blackmail, or people around them. 3, If they try to go independent, these mofos are petty as hell. So they will keep tryiing to get the girl back, or keep robbing her.

Here are just a few ads where YOU SHOULD KNOW there is a Pimp or DB behind the scene:

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...l/333375118279

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...r/885776425205

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...e/536804010881

If that stripper bill doesn't get defeated, you probably see more young gals with pimps, bc they going to start trying to get it off the streets. You ever wonder why alot of ads say no pimps or black males, that's why. The cycle continues.

I do agree with you however, its not us that keep these gals in the streets, bc if they wasnt selling they're goods, the next thing is drugs, which is more deadly.

Minimum wage is what 7. 5? So again being a little liberal with the rate I'd say 9 hr is what most jobs is paying, (I know walgreens is like 8 sum an hr) . Whats 9 x8. ONLY 72 BUCKS A DAY!! 360 a week 720 every 2 weeks. ONLY at most 1,440 a month. YEARLY that's less than 20 k. How the FUDGE you post to live off that especially in florida. Two jobs sounds admirable, but its shit truly. NOOne should talk that shid up like its a good thing. I did two jobs, but not out of necessity 1 job was making 60 sum a year close to 70 benefits all that, and I was just in a prime that I could do another job to reinvest into myself. Yet alot of people don't do that especially lower income households, unless they take a leap of faith, theres not enough time in the week from working 2 jobs to reinvest into yourself through learning, trade so in the future you are good. You are worried about the next meal, or bill. That shid is dumb. Which is why I cannot understand sections in this stimulus bill. Watch when this event pass, you will see alot of people getting laid off. As history has shown. Which if I can remember in the 2016 tax bill, wasnt their something that provided funds for low wage workers visas from asia to come here and work?

You posted three links for providers that couldn't pay me enough. Not sure if you're now being sarcastic. Come on man.

[TallBear]

Remember, Mongers, it's a battle of wills and when you win the $ battle, all the others are easier to win and she falls into line. If not, kick her to the curb. Looks are important, but a good review has much more to it than a hot girl. She needs to behave well and do her job right, so this takes some training, in my experience.

Are they really busy? Take a look outside, no one is out and about. They aren't busy. Most mongers are stuck at home with wifey!

Happy Mongering,

Tall.

P.S. I stay away from pimps and their girls, obviously. They have no will to break.

I am not the least bit interested in breaking anyone's will. Nor do I care to be part of a buyer's consortium calculated to keep desperate people down & out for the sake of saving a few coins in my pursuit of blowjobs & buggery. As long as a provider makes reasonable efforts to be attractive, gives me what I want, doesn't rip me off & does NOT leave me sitting in a goddamned parking lot, I will give her what she asks. Within reason, of course. Clearly, we all have differences of opinion as to what is reasonable, which is why the hobby is a stratified market, within which providers move up & down.

I attribute the high donation requirements to be a function of lower provider availability & the available ones wanting hazard pay (Mandy3 X obviously understands that angle, which figures). I predict an uptick in supply & demand as things begin to loosen up again, with more mongers & more providers pushing prices down as the increased number of providers scramble for market share in a resurgent market.

The hobby is in austerity mode right now. The providers working now know that many mongers are not playing right now & conclude, perhaps correctly, that the ones calling are the most desperate sex addicts.

Basically, a lot of this boils down to who is more desperate. Sad, huh?

[JZetoro19]

Technology has come a long way and it's a bread maker for any girls that knows how to use it correctly. Hell they could make more money staying virtual rather than seeing clients because their client base is basically all over the world. With that being said only dummies will pay for content that they can get for free and these girls are banking on the dummies.

Mandy Mandy Mandy has an ad stating this logic: Due to Virus Risk Hour minimum 300.

https://adultsearch.com/florida/jack...scorts/1794873

Also she is a onlyfans page, claiming xxx content of her, she says:

ILL post everything you will need to keep you entertained during quarantine. Never seen before Xxx videos from me the real Mandy you can't find anywnere else. Xxxpics. And even taking requests for special videos just how you want.

Now she is looking to ripoff people online.

[Lester545]

Mandy Mandy Mandy has an ad stating this logic: Due to Virus Risk Hour minimum 300.

https://adultsearch.com/florida/jack...scorts/1794873

Also she is a onlyfans page, claiming xxx content of her, she says:

ILL post everything you will need to keep you entertained during quarantine. Never seen before Xxx videos from me the real Mandy you can't find anywnere else. Xxxpics. And even taking requests for special videos just how you want.

Now she is looking to ripoff people online.

[Tallbert]

See this as well. I've been playing hardball / lowball with some providers and they aren't budging. Girls say biz is slow but they're charging bull market rates for bear market pussy.

Remember, Mongers, it's a battle of wills and when you win the $ battle, all the others are easier to win and she falls into line. If not, kick her to the curb. Looks are important, but a good review has much more to it than a hot girl. She needs to behave well and do her job right, so this takes some training, in my experience.

Are they really busy? Take a look outside, no one is out and about. They aren't busy. Most mongers are stuck at home with wifey!

Happy Mongering,

Tall.

P.S. I stay away from pimps and their girls, obviously. They have no will to break.

[Pseudonymous]

These girls seem busier than ever and charging a lot more these days! I guess being scooped up in the house makes one's sex drive increase!

See this as well. I've been playing hardball / lowball with some providers and they aren't budging. Girls say biz is slow but they're charging bull market rates for bear market pussy.

[NeckAuthority]

Unbelievable, so some white knight, mangina thinks its mens fault the ladies are forcing themselves to work in this shit. Have any of you all ever seen a pimp? Whats that fucker look like and why don't we just all call him, hmm?

I'm bad at reading sarcasm over the net. If you been in this hobby a few months you will see pimps. I'd say 90% of SW got pimps, and that carries over to the providers I'd say an easy 40-60% in jax have pimps. Being very liberal with those #'s. You can go out anytime of the day to the hotspots and see pimps. If you have not seen pimps around hotels, you should get out of the hobby, because you probably end up down or with the dear ol unc. I will say, atleast in Jax pimps are dumb as hell, compared with pimps from 2-3 decades ago. They literally walk the streets behind their merch. One, Cops see that and remember their faces, 2 alot of mongers not going to pick up a chick when theres a dude hovering around.

Remember way back when, they was about business, no socializing with the gals all day (which is what I see today), literally talking to these does for hours. Like mention before, knew of some, bc we crossed paths alot, he used to show pics of new merch, but the game has changed. Pimps are essentially part-time DBs.

Where you think these does go to sleep, they usually cramped into the db run down candy shack.

Do agree with the report that it is hard for some of these gals to get out of the game. One, they make no money with a pimp usually for shelter, "protection", or a habit. 2, the pimp know their identity so just like with that korean scandal, if they try to go legit, they will threaten them with blackmail, or people around them. 3, If they try to go independent, these mofos are petty as hell. So they will keep tryiing to get the girl back, or keep robbing her.

Here are just a few ads where YOU SHOULD KNOW there is a Pimp or DB behind the scene:

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...l/333375118279

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...r/885776425205

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...e/536804010881

If that stripper bill doesn't get defeated, you probably see more young gals with pimps, bc they going to start trying to get it off the streets. You ever wonder why alot of ads say no pimps or black males, that's why. The cycle continues.

I do agree with you however, its not us that keep these gals in the streets, bc if they wasnt selling they're goods, the next thing is drugs, which is more deadly.

Minimum wage is what 7. 5? So again being a little liberal with the rate I'd say 9 hr is what most jobs is paying, (I know walgreens is like 8 sum an hr) . Whats 9 x8. ONLY 72 BUCKS A DAY!! 360 a week 720 every 2 weeks. ONLY at most 1,440 a month. YEARLY that's less than 20 k. How the FUDGE you post to live off that especially in florida. Two jobs sounds admirable, but its shit truly. NOOne should talk that shid up like its a good thing. I did two jobs, but not out of necessity 1 job was making 60 sum a year close to 70 benefits all that, and I was just in a prime that I could do another job to reinvest into myself. Yet alot of people don't do that especially lower income households, unless they take a leap of faith, theres not enough time in the week from working 2 jobs to reinvest into yourself through learning, trade so in the future you are good. You are worried about the next meal, or bill. That shid is dumb. Which is why I cannot understand sections in this stimulus bill. Watch when this event pass, you will see alot of people getting laid off. As history has shown. Which if I can remember in the 2016 tax bill, wasnt their something that provided funds for low wage workers visas from asia to come here and work?

[PlayTiem]

Unbelievable, so some white knight, mangina thinks its mens fault the ladies are forcing themselves to work in this shit. Have any of you all ever seen a pimp? Whats that fucker look like and why don't we just all call him, hmm? This simp thinks these women are ALL out working to put food on the table, pay their mortgage and put gas in the van so they can get their kids to soccer practice. And its all our fault because penis! Were the ones with the problem and we need to change. Never mind the fact that we have cellphones and cars with jobs to pay for that shit. And HER crack and heroine! Its the second oldest profession for a reason. Women are not some special snowflake to be put on a pedestal. Some of them actually like whoring, its what they do. Sorry for venting, I just get so mad when I read shit like this. Stay safe Mongers and wash hands. https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...-jacksonville/.

Yes. I've seen, and spoken with, more than one.

[Stansbury]

Unbelievable, so some white knight, mangina thinks its mens fault the ladies are forcing themselves to work in this shit. Have any of you all ever seen a pimp? Whats that fucker look like and why don't we just all call him, hmm? This simp thinks these women are ALL out working to put food on the table, pay their mortgage and put gas in the van so they can get their kids to soccer practice. And its all our fault because penis! Were the ones with the problem and we need to change. Never mind the fact that we have cellphones and cars with jobs to pay for that shit. And HER crack and heroine! Its the second oldest profession for a reason. Women are not some special snowflake to be put on a pedestal. Some of them actually like whoring, its what they do. Sorry for venting, I just get so mad when I read shit like this. Stay safe Mongers and wash hands. https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...-jacksonville/.

[TallBear]

I'm reminded of how poor a strategy this is by the treatment of global climate change. 90%+ of scientists believe one thing, way less than 10% believe something else (as measured by peer reviewed papers published in actual reputable scientific journals), but the news folks, in adherence to "balance" put one guy on who says "it's happening, everyone who looks at the data can see it" and one guy one who says "the earth is flat!" and then the average uneducated viewer thinks the "science is undecided" because they see a 50/50 representation that warps their perspective disproportionately.

As for media, most media outlets here in the USA faithfully serve their corporate megacorporation masters, or for those rebels out there, their ultra rich individual (WAPO is owned by The Richest Fucking Guy Ever) or family owners. Take a look at media ownership conglomeration to see the increasingly uniform messages these outlets routinely pump out. The notion that most media has a liberal bias is clearly, and laughably, false. Now, left to their own devices, a lot of reporter and editorial types might be commies at heart, but they know where their paycheck is coming from, and they toe the line.

Fox News is useful to get the perspective of the Republican Party, still steaming fresh from the elephant's asshole. OAN is useful to see the crusty propaganda formed by the used toilet paper that wipes that asshole. Hannity is a morning drive FM shock jock in a suit (literally) that can spout the most ridiculous crap and be taken seriously by some who don't check what he says for internal consistency or facts.

CNN these days is all Covid, all the time, because their viewership is way up, and I'm imagining (be have NOT verified) that their ad rates reflect that.

I could go on, but to do so would be belaboring the point.

Anyways, I just go by the simple rule: "What does the person who is selling me a point of view have to gain by me accepting an aspect of their point of view, or even accepting the framing and narrative they're using?" It puts things in perspective more quickly than pretty much anything else I've found. Unfortunately, most people simply look for something to echo what they want to hear, and to demonize those they're afraid of, and we end up with what we've got.

What is the point of view I'm trying to sell here? Simply that the truth matters. I want the world to be less insane than it is. My hope is that anyone reading this will let their blood pressure return to its normal level (if anything I said raised it) and evaluate what I said on its merits, and consider using the lensing rule, even just on a trial basis, for their personal media consumption.

I'll take this opportunity to point out that I've said absolutely nothing espousing a political view here, and have only commented on the nature of media outlets.

Tl; dr Don't be a sheeple.

I am rarely a man of few words but have absolutely nothing I can add. Damn straight. Always knew there were other brothers here who actually think about things other than their wee-wee's.

Even if only for a little while.

[Rick Dugan]

In natural selection's power to make the human race smarter through weeding out the dimwitted. By all means, anyone who wants to roll the dice on this one has my blessing.

For better or for worse, I think that natural selection weeds out the ugly far faster than it weeds out the dimwitted. This very board proves that point, with high demand for dimwitted hot girls. Lots of available fuck options equals lots of chances for pro-creation.

[PlayTiem]

I never followed politics as much as I do now. You have to get media from both sides and you will see where the bullshit is. Mainstream media is biased. Spend a few hours a week watching OAN and Fox News, especially Hanitty and then decide which side is crooked.

I'm reminded of how poor a strategy this is by the treatment of global climate change. 90%+ of scientists believe one thing, way less than 10% believe something else (as measured by peer reviewed papers published in actual reputable scientific journals), but the news folks, in adherence to "balance" put one guy on who says "it's happening, everyone who looks at the data can see it" and one guy one who says "the earth is flat!" and then the average uneducated viewer thinks the "science is undecided" because they see a 50/50 representation that warps their perspective disproportionately.

As for media, most media outlets here in the USA faithfully serve their corporate megacorporation masters, or for those rebels out there, their ultra rich individual (WAPO is owned by The Richest Fucking Guy Ever) or family owners. Take a look at media ownership conglomeration to see the increasingly uniform messages these outlets routinely pump out. The notion that most media has a liberal bias is clearly, and laughably, false. Now, left to their own devices, a lot of reporter and editorial types might be commies at heart, but they know where their paycheck is coming from, and they toe the line.

Fox News is useful to get the perspective of the Republican Party, still steaming fresh from the elephant's asshole. OAN is useful to see the crusty propaganda formed by the used toilet paper that wipes that asshole. Hannity is a morning drive FM shock jock in a suit (literally) that can spout the most ridiculous crap and be taken seriously by some who don't check what he says for internal consistency or facts.

CNN these days is all Covid, all the time, because their viewership is way up, and I'm imagining (be have NOT verified) that their ad rates reflect that.

I could go on, but to do so would be belaboring the point.

Anyways, I just go by the simple rule: "What does the person who is selling me a point of view have to gain by me accepting an aspect of their point of view, or even accepting the framing and narrative they're using?" It puts things in perspective more quickly than pretty much anything else I've found. Unfortunately, most people simply look for something to echo what they want to hear, and to demonize those they're afraid of, and we end up with what we've got.

What is the point of view I'm trying to sell here? Simply that the truth matters. I want the world to be less insane than it is. My hope is that anyone reading this will let their blood pressure return to its normal level (if anything I said raised it) and evaluate what I said on its merits, and consider using the lensing rule, even just on a trial basis, for their personal media consumption.

I'll take this opportunity to point out that I've said absolutely nothing espousing a political view here, and have only commented on the nature of media outlets.

Tl; dr Don't be a sheeple.

[PlayTiem]

In natural selection's power to make the human race smarter through weeding out the dimwitted. By all means, anyone who wants to roll the dice on this one has my blessing.

Sadly, one needs only watch the family tree animation at the beginning of Idiocracy to be reminded of why this isn't a viable thing to pin one's hopes on.