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  1. #2959

    Meh

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTalon  [View Original Post]
    Nothing is free, we the people that get fucking ass raped by the IRS have to eventually backfill that hole. I think it is $17,200 to get $2,400. That bill will eventually come due with massive consequences.
    Not to long ago, I know nowhere near 2 trillion, but didn't we just pay some private contractors like 5+ billions for a confetti wall, so unless they have up their financials for the world to see, out of the goodness of their hearts, we may never know where all that money go. Tis why FB remained a Super power for a while. The economy left to its own devices will bounce back, only problem is we should of had safety nets to cushion the fall that we are about to take. Thing is, I get the fact we are where we are, nothing we can do about it, however, I can not understand why are "certain" people kinda being sheep watching certain "news" networks, rather then thinking for themselves.

    We in this predicament yes. However the damage could of been deflated if we had a certain "taskforce", that was disbanded for no apparent reason whatsoever- who sole purpose was exactly to deal with this situation, and we had knowledge since December, where Mayors and our Potus acting like we just find out about in February and March. If we all knew about it in December and January on social media, that means for damn sure the government knew about it. Which is why that government official is in trouble for what Martha Stewart got sent to jail for LOL. Telling his buddies in January to make some lucrative deals. Which uncovered more officials pulling out stock around the same time.

    One last Rant WHY ARE "certain" people targeting one of the lead sensible people on the Cororana case, who hasn't lied at ever corner. Lord this country is so twisted. Just plain ignorance rather target the person making sense out of the matter with death threats, then point their anger at the true source of this countries current predicament. Its not even an "what if" or "looking back", this was a common sense approach to deter the virus before it became an issue, which was wrote off as a ploy, bc people think nothing bad will ever happen from their choices not to act. Hell Even Today hoax or not the virus is real, why are these states governors so reluctant to act. Took a huge block party here for us to get on a more strict lockdown. Last week I kid you not saw restaurants packed with people. People were actually going out more, just to be defiant, and claim they know it all.

  2. #2958

    Economics

    First, my reference to free money is regarding interest free loans. Will there be companies that take unnecessary capital at a cheap cost to make sure that they can weather the storm, hell yeah. If you had a team and business that you had built on your own blood, sweat, and money that could fail because of all of this and hurt dozens of families- I would hope that you would take whatever precautions you could to hedge against it. My accountant said that there are companies with over 200 employees, and they don't have the capital to cover payroll for two weeks. We can all judge from afar, but in the end, it's really about keeping our small businesses afloat through this.

    Second, the alternative is a collapse that would require a lot more than $2 T in stimulus. Probably still will.

    Pick your poison. -F904.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTalon  [View Original Post]
    Nothing is free, we the people that get fucking ass raped by the IRS have to eventually backfill that hole. I think it is $17,200 to get $2,400. That bill will eventually come due with massive consequences.

  3. #2957

    "Free"

    Quote Originally Posted by Frequent904  [View Original Post]
    Is there a lot of hype, yeah. Will there be hospitals, Urgent Care centers, and others that take advantage of the situation- yeah. Is this a virus that is really spreading and killing- yep!

    For some of us small businesses, this isn't really a bad thing. We have multiple avenues to get funds at dirt cheap or for FREE right now- even if you don't need it. "Never let a good crisis go to waste. " - Winston Churchill.
    Nothing is free, we the people that get fucking ass raped by the IRS have to eventually backfill that hole. I think it is $17,200 to get $2,400. That bill will eventually come due with massive consequences.

  4. #2956

    Skeptical

    Is there a lot of hype, yeah. Will there be hospitals, Urgent Care centers, and others that take advantage of the situation- yeah. Is this a virus that is really spreading and killing- yep!

    For some of us small businesses, this isn't really a bad thing. We have multiple avenues to get funds at dirt cheap or for FREE right now- even if you don't need it. "Never let a good crisis go to waste. " - Winston Churchill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkish  [View Original Post]
    In natural selection's power to make the human race smarter through weeding out the dimwitted. By all means, anyone who wants to roll the dice on this one has my blessing.

  5. #2955

    I'm a firm believer

    Quote Originally Posted by VandelayEnt  [View Original Post]
    Citizen reporters go & do what the media won't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pIMD1enwd4
    In natural selection's power to make the human race smarter through weeding out the dimwitted. By all means, anyone who wants to roll the dice on this one has my blessing.

  6. #2954

    Ha!

    Quote Originally Posted by VandelayEnt  [View Original Post]
    Citizen reporters go & do what the media won't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pIMD1enwd4
    That seems "trustworthy", I personally know three people that have this and one has been in the ICU in MN for over two weeks. I'm an extreme introvert and since I have three people in my extremely small circle I will stick with that this is bad. But, you go ahead.

  7. #2953

    Overzealous media hype

    Citizen reporters go & do what the media won't.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pIMD1enwd4

  8. #2952

    Wish there was a "like" button

    I never followed politics as much as I do now. You have to get media from both sides and you will see where the bullshit is. Mainstream media is biased. Spend a few hours a week watching OAN and Fox News, especially Hanitty and then decide which side is crooked.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTalon  [View Original Post]
    It was the context of the entire speech. He was going after the Democrats for politicizing the virus and they were saying that isn't the case. It's funny because that is exactly what they were and still are doing by loading the "stimulus" bill with crap and making speeches placing blame with no real solutions. Do I like Trump as a person? I'm not sure but I do like the fact he has torn through establishment politics like a fat man through a buffet.

    "Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that, right?" he said. "Coronavirus, they're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, 'How's President Trump doing?' They go, 'Oh, not good, not good. ' They have no clue. They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa. ".

    Then the president, who often dismissed special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation as a hoax, continued, "They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They'd been doing it since you got in. It's all turning. They lost. It's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. ".

  9. #2951

    Context

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    Those are your quotation marks not mine. What exactly is the this that he is referring to? In other words what exactly is the hoax?

    This is the quote in it's entirety from February 28.

    ""Thirty five thousand people on average die each year from the flu. Did anyone know that?" Trump told supporters at a rally on February 28.

    "Thirty five thousand. That's a lot of people. And so far, we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States. ".

    "Now, the Democrats are politicising the coronavirus. This is their new hoax. ".

    This isn't what he's saying now, this is what he said on February 28 so what exactly was the hoax?
    It was the context of the entire speech. He was going after the Democrats for politicizing the virus and they were saying that isn't the case. It's funny because that is exactly what they were and still are doing by loading the "stimulus" bill with crap and making speeches placing blame with no real solutions. Do I like Trump as a person? I'm not sure but I do like the fact he has torn through establishment politics like a fat man through a buffet.

    "Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that, right?" he said. "Coronavirus, they're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, 'How's President Trump doing?' They go, 'Oh, not good, not good. ' They have no clue. They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa. ".

    Then the president, who often dismissed special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation as a hoax, continued, "They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They'd been doing it since you got in. It's all turning. They lost. It's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. ".

  10. #2950
    Administrator


    Posts: 5115

    Correction

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperXY  [View Original Post]
    Be careful A2 called me out for doing what you are doing by calling out new members of not contribution prior to asking questions. It was recommended to me that I should PM the member if I wanted to help him.
    I didn't "call you out" I threw a flag and I didn't throw a flag for you calling out new members for asking questions prior to making contributions. I threw the flag simply because you "called somebody out" for anything on a review thread. "Calling people out" on review threads for any reason at all is against the TOS. Asking a question, regardless of how many time you have posted, is in no way a violation of the TOS. You, not the noob, were the one breaking the rules.

    A2.

  11. #2949
    Administrator


    Posts: 5115

    Ok, I'll play

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTalon  [View Original Post]
    "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.

    What's False
    Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.
    Those are your quotation marks not mine. What exactly is the this that he is referring to? In other words what exactly is the hoax?

    This is the quote in it's entirety from February 28.

    ""Thirty five thousand people on average die each year from the flu. Did anyone know that?" Trump told supporters at a rally on February 28.

    "Thirty five thousand. That's a lot of people. And so far, we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States. ".

    "Now, the Democrats are politicising the coronavirus. This is their new hoax. ".

    This isn't what he's saying now, this is what he said on February 28 so what exactly was the hoax?

  12. #2948
    Racist douchebag


    Posts: 204
    Quote Originally Posted by PlayTiem  [View Original Post]
    Yes, many people are overly sensitive, and that's usually when it's best to keep an eye out on one's own triggers.

    We'll have to disagree, then, on whether or not intentional marginalization and association with broad negatives can be incredibly harmful to a group's health. I do say science is on my side on this, though. I wasn't suggesting that it was likely that someone was going to go all Columbine in Chinatown (god forbid), but a gun ain't the only way to kill someone.

    I agree that the Chinese government bears responsibility for making the problem worse. How the Chinese putative political system factors into their overall economic policy is more of an issue than I would want to try to tease apart here, but doesn't seem relevant to asian people in this country getting shit on.

    I will ask, though: What does calling it the "Chinese Virus" benefit anyone? You can associate blame with the Chinese government simply by saying "the Chinese govt fucked up on their handling of Covid" without implicating the rest of 'them.

    Again, I only care because it's my belief that how this is handled will adversely affect the health of people innocent of, well, anything. Even though this is the Woodshed, I'm keeping the flamethrower in its case.
    The virus came from China as did many others. Has a lot to do with eating habits. The real name fits the reality, and I don't mean convic whatever. What most miss is that African viruses is the most dangerous and has infected us more than this most recent hoax. Reality outways your so called "science."

  13. #2947

    Accepted

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTalon  [View Original Post]
    My apologies for jumping your ass. I just get so sick of the overly sensitive bullshit day in and day out. I do not agree with your assertion that calling it a "China Virus" will get people killed, I think that is overly dramatic. If people are going to kill people, this isn't going to be the trigger.

    I stand by what I said about the Chinese government that they need to own this. I do business with factories in China and this is how fucked up the government is. They know communism doesn't work so they basically have "special economic zones" within the country where most of the factories are located otherwise they wouldn't have a dime to support their ideology. Weird huh.

    If anyone is going to be a sensitive pussy or needs a safe space, get the fuck out.
    Yes, many people are overly sensitive, and that's usually when it's best to keep an eye out on one's own triggers.

    We'll have to disagree, then, on whether or not intentional marginalization and association with broad negatives can be incredibly harmful to a group's health. I do say science is on my side on this, though. I wasn't suggesting that it was likely that someone was going to go all Columbine in Chinatown (god forbid), but a gun ain't the only way to kill someone.

    I agree that the Chinese government bears responsibility for making the problem worse. How the Chinese putative political system factors into their overall economic policy is more of an issue than I would want to try to tease apart here, but doesn't seem relevant to asian people in this country getting shit on.

    I will ask, though: What does calling it the "Chinese Virus" benefit anyone? You can associate blame with the Chinese government simply by saying "the Chinese govt fucked up on their handling of Covid" without implicating the rest of 'them.

    Again, I only care because it's my belief that how this is handled will adversely affect the health of people innocent of, well, anything. Even though this is the Woodshed, I'm keeping the flamethrower in its case.

  14. #2946
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1197

    Good Lookin Out

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperXY  [View Original Post]
    Be careful A2 called me out for doing what you are doing by calling out new members of not contribution prior to asking questions. It was recommended to me that I should PM the member if I wanted to help him.
    Thank You.

    No other comment.

  15. #2945
    Quote Originally Posted by AMnnos  [View Original Post]
    Top or bottom half?

    I was merely referring to the color of her hair, not her ethnicity.

    Original poster was "needing" a review so I threw him one in a sarcastic manner since he felt the "need" to come on the board demanding info when in fact he's got shit for contribution. Maybe I read his post wrong but that's the vibe I was getting.
    Be careful A2 called me out for doing what you are doing by calling out new members of not contribution prior to asking questions. It was recommended to me that I should PM the member if I wanted to help him.

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