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  1. #269

    Rip

    Kobe gone damn.

  2. #268
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    Posts: 3468

    Best Post Of 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackDot  [View Original Post]
    For starters I don't think anyone here is saying that it's more tragic than anything you mentioned. So I don't why you assumed that we did. I also don't get why you think nobody here isn't sympathetic to the plight of others. Regardless of whether they're even in this hobby or not. Much less a provider even. But since you want to make such a big deal out of others having sympathy for someone who's life is very much not the best it could be fine let's answer your question. She's the victim of gang gun violence. Something totally avoidable. Thanks to a senseless act of violence for what was prolly 'strEeT cReD' or 'rEsPEcT' she also has had her life arguably ruined by a single second of her life. $650 a month in social security disability is an appealingly pathetic amount of money to live on, and is basically dooming her to a life of poverty. Being paraplegic is definitely something that badly restricts and hinders your life. The truth is that many jobs and employers will basically eliminate her as a candidate when they have others lined up without a disability. Oh and there's also the jobs she's never able to do now. All those employment options that would've stayed open for her would've been a nice way to ensure a life free from abject poverty. I couldn't imagine life in a wheelchair honestly. Physical activity restrictions alone would bring me down to a dark place. Are you saying that you're someone who's tough and rough enough to handle such a disability and such a crime against you? By all means, please help out the poor and needy if you're so tough. I'm sure you can make the world a much better place with your grit and toughness. How much more do you want me to go on? We all know that providers are most likely not born into families of privilege. Or that they have privilege currently. Who else would honestly do this kinda work if they had better choices? Not many. Why do you have something against others having sympathy for a provider?
    This post gets my vote for best post of 2020. 👍.

  3. #267
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    Posts: 3468

    Sympathy For Wheel Chair Girl.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackDot  [View Original Post]
    For starters I don't think anyone here is saying that it's more tragic than anything you mentioned. So I don't why you assumed that we did. I also don't get why you think nobody here isn't sympathetic to the plight of others. Regardless of whether they're even in this hobby or not. Much less a provider even. But since you want to make such a big deal out of others having sympathy for someone who's life is very much not the best it could be fine let's answer your question. She's the victim of gang gun violence. Something totally avoidable. Thanks to a senseless act of violence for what was prolly 'strEeT cReD' or 'rEsPEcT' she also has had her life arguably ruined by a single second of her life. $650 a month in social security disability is an appealingly pathetic amount of money to live on, and is basically dooming her to a life of poverty. Being paraplegic is definitely something that badly restricts and hinders your life. The truth is that many jobs and employers will basically eliminate her as a candidate when they have others lined up without a disability. Oh and there's also the jobs she's never able to do now. All those employment options that would've stayed open for her would've been a nice way to ensure a life free from abject poverty. I couldn't imagine life in a wheelchair honestly. Physical activity restrictions alone would bring me down to a dark place. Are you saying that you're someone who's tough and rough enough to handle such a disability and such a crime against you? By all means, please help out the poor and needy if you're so tough. I'm sure you can make the world a much better place with your grit and toughness. How much more do you want me to go on? We all know that providers are most likely not born into families of privilege. Or that they have privilege currently. Who else would honestly do this kinda work if they had better choices? Not many. Why do you have something against others having sympathy for a provider?
    Enough said. (mic drop).

  4. #266

    I think you're taking this the wrong way

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkmsw  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure how this is any more "tragic" than a mother trying to feed her kids? Or someone who has been abused all her life and selling her body is the only way the girl knows how to make a decent living? (Let's face it, majority of prostitutes come from a "tragic" background where life started out rough. Yes, women make poor choices and end up turning tricks but many had a bad hand dealt to them from the beginning.).

    This girl is pretty and this girl has figured out a way to supplement her living. Most likely not trying to feed a habit. I say, good for her. She could have resorted to begging but she chooses to work for her money.

    B.
    For starters I don't think anyone here is saying that it's more tragic than anything you mentioned. So I don't why you assumed that we did. I also don't get why you think nobody here isn't sympathetic to the plight of others. Regardless of whether they're even in this hobby or not. Much less a provider even. But since you want to make such a big deal out of others having sympathy for someone who's life is very much not the best it could be fine let's answer your question. She's the victim of gang gun violence. Something totally avoidable. Thanks to a senseless act of violence for what was prolly 'strEeT cReD' or 'rEsPEcT' she also has had her life arguably ruined by a single second of her life. $650 a month in social security disability is an appealingly pathetic amount of money to live on, and is basically dooming her to a life of poverty. Being paraplegic is definitely something that badly restricts and hinders your life. The truth is that many jobs and employers will basically eliminate her as a candidate when they have others lined up without a disability. Oh and there's also the jobs she's never able to do now. All those employment options that would've stayed open for her would've been a nice way to ensure a life free from abject poverty. I couldn't imagine life in a wheelchair honestly. Physical activity restrictions alone would bring me down to a dark place. Are you saying that you're someone who's tough and rough enough to handle such a disability and such a crime against you? By all means, please help out the poor and needy if you're so tough. I'm sure you can make the world a much better place with your grit and toughness. How much more do you want me to go on? We all know that providers are most likely not born into families of privilege. Or that they have privilege currently. Who else would honestly do this kinda work if they had better choices? Not many. Why do you have something against others having sympathy for a provider?

  5. #265
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    Posts: 3468

    Agreed And Points Taken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkmsw  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure how this is any more "tragic" than a mother trying to feed her kids? Or someone who has been abused all her life and selling her body is the only way the girl knows how to make a decent living? (Let's face it, majority of prostitutes come from a "tragic" background where life started out rough. Yes, women make poor choices and end up turning tricks but many had a bad hand dealt to them from the beginning.).

    This girl is pretty and this girl has figured out a way to supplement her living. Most likely not trying to feed a habit. I say, good for her. She could have resorted to begging but she chooses to work for her money.

    B.
    These girls are from bad situations. By their own doing or from people they trusted. I've heard horrible stories from some of these girls.

    With the wheel chair girl it just makes me feel bad if I were to see her. To each his own. I'll take a pass on this one.

  6. #264
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    Posts: 623

    Wheel Chair Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by RonM  [View Original Post]
    You guys would see this girl? I'd feel really guilty about setting up a meeting with this girl. I would give her 50 dollars and leave.
    I'm not sure how this is any more "tragic" than a mother trying to feed her kids? Or someone who has been abused all her life and selling her body is the only way the girl knows how to make a decent living? (Let's face it, majority of prostitutes come from a "tragic" background where life started out rough. Yes, women make poor choices and end up turning tricks but many had a bad hand dealt to them from the beginning.).

    This girl is pretty and this girl has figured out a way to supplement her living. Most likely not trying to feed a habit. I say, good for her. She could have resorted to begging but she chooses to work for her money.

    B.

  7. #263
    Shill, ignore all my posts. A2 hasn't banned me because I'll make a new user so add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 77

    What Conspiracy Theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverFlow  [View Original Post]
    Domino effect? Why do you keep throwing your opinion here when no one wants to know what you have to say? You obviously don't book with these agencies so why do you keep giving your opinion? Just focus on your agency and stop being so poisonous. You are so terrible at being subtle on every opportunity you get to bash mce and the owners, you try to weasel your irrelevant and unnecessary bias opinion. You have nothing good to say.
    If one didn't care about my opinions. You wouldn't have responded RiverFlow. Yes, I have booked with these agencies, and it's unfortunate that EEC / Angeli got busted. I booked with Angelis before EEC and MCE started the Chicago scene. Angelis was a different name when they started. There is no irrelevant information or useless information that I write on here. All is true about Angeli / EEC and MCE, on how they are interconnected. Ask the girls when you book a appointment. After I fucked EEC / MCE girls several were open to share information about those agencies. They didn't share much but they shared a good amount.

    I guess we have to wait till the end of December when Will goes to court, and see what the prosecutors find on him. A domino effect is plausible and us mongers with our information provided can be in a shit load of trouble if and when the media or prosecutors release names of clients that use Angelis, EEC and MCE.

  8. #262

    Conspiracy theory is back?

    Domino effect? Why do you keep throwing your opinion here when no one wants to know what you have to say? You obviously don't book with these agencies so why do you keep giving your opinion? Just focus on your agency and stop being so poisonous. You are so terrible at being subtle on every opportunity you get to bash mce and the owners, you try to weasel your irrelevant and unnecessary bias opinion. You have nothing good to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by LipstickOnMe  [View Original Post]
    It's going to be a domino effect, once Will goes to court. I'm certain that Markus was a acquaintance with Will at Angelis. The girls tell me how Markus and Will would meet up and talk about their operations and about their girls. There would be times when both Angelis girls and MCE girls were at the same hotel at the same night.

    That's a clever and needed move for making the girls delete information about appointments. I had several outcall appointments and many incall appointments with Angeli and MCE girls.

    I don't want my personal information to be made public, and it can happen, but I'm hoping it doesn't. The police will have every piece of information on Angeli, and most likely, MCE, and Markus will show up on Wills record keeping or whatever saved information he has. Will didn't use a burner phone, and most likely he has sloppy handling on clients information and business information.

    Many of you mongers have been using Angelis and MCE like myself, and it's going to suck that we won't have young hotties. All my years of mongering, this is a first where there is drama between 3 agencies in Chicago. And most likely all 3 of them will have operations shut down.

    The websites of MCE isn't the same.

    As how it used to be. And they stopped sending emails. Does anyone know why? Does entail with Will getting busted?

  9. #261
    This is all very depressing. I was quite a fan of EEC. What is the current opinion of EEC now? Avoid with 10 foot pole? Or are people still visiting EEC / Angelis? I'm assuming they are cleaning up client info, can anyone comment on how thorough they clean up?

    There's a few girls there that I quite enjoyed and would love to get in contact with.

    Quote Originally Posted by LipstickOnMe  [View Original Post]
    It's going to be a domino effect, once Will goes to court. I'm certain that Markus was a acquaintance with Will at Angelis. The girls tell me how Markus and Will would meet up and talk about their operations and about their girls. There would be times when both Angelis girls and MCE girls were at the same hotel at the same night.

    That's a clever and needed move for making the girls delete information about appointments. I had several outcall appointments and many incall appointments with Angeli and MCE girls.

    I don't want my personal information to be made public, and it can happen, but I'm hoping it doesn't. The police will have every piece of information on Angeli, and most likely, MCE, and Markus will show up on Wills record keeping or whatever saved information he has. Will didn't use a burner phone, and most likely he has sloppy handling on clients information and business information.

    Many of you mongers have been using Angelis and MCE like myself, and it's going to suck that we won't have young hotties. All my years of mongering, this is a first where there is drama between 3 agencies in Chicago. And most likely all 3 of them will have operations shut down.

    The websites of MCE isn't the same.

    As how it used to be. And they stopped sending emails. Does anyone know why? Does entail with Will getting busted?

  10. #260
    Shill, ignore all my posts. A2 hasn't banned me because I'll make a new user so add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 77

    EEC & MCE & Angeli

    Quote Originally Posted by JsGuzman88  [View Original Post]
    Well it's been an interesting weekend. The owner of EEC Angellis Angels went apeshit trying to find out where I am currently living and threatened to bury me. He has at least one cop on his payroll but claims to have many. The girls told me that he uses this corrupt cop to intimidate his workers. I think it works because you rarely see them lash out at him like you do with other agencies. He is a detective and shows off his badge and gun to keep the girls in line. I had one of my contacts / friends come over and she warned me to be careful because his "cops" are looking for me. That might be an exaggeration because from what I have heard over the years it is just one detective from Elgin police dept.

    Yesterday I had a meeting with my lawyer to discuss this and also find out more about the owners arrest last week. Apparently it has to do more with money laundering. Interestingly enough, the owner already had previous experience in 1998 when he took money and forged some documents then deposited it in his bank. Dude is just so smart.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...433-story.html*.

    Some of his clients were paying him via check and the volume of money flowing from these few individuals into his various companies caused suspicion. When law enforcement questioned these clients they flipped and named the owner as head of a prostitution ring. * Afterwards the arrest in Lombard. However I am thinking one of his clients also happens to be an accountant in Elgin that ripped off his church to the tune of $270,000. It was a Tiger Woods looking black dude. The EEC Angellis Angels owner deposited this money into his fake business accounts. The church accountant then was allowed to use this as credit towards services. Apparently booking several times per week for multiple hours..
    It's going to be a domino effect, once Will goes to court. I'm certain that Markus was a acquaintance with Will at Angelis. The girls tell me how Markus and Will would meet up and talk about their operations and about their girls. There would be times when both Angelis girls and MCE girls were at the same hotel at the same night.

    That's a clever and needed move for making the girls delete information about appointments. I had several outcall appointments and many incall appointments with Angeli and MCE girls.

    I don't want my personal information to be made public, and it can happen, but I'm hoping it doesn't. The police will have every piece of information on Angeli, and most likely, MCE, and Markus will show up on Wills record keeping or whatever saved information he has. Will didn't use a burner phone, and most likely he has sloppy handling on clients information and business information.

    Many of you mongers have been using Angelis and MCE like myself, and it's going to suck that we won't have young hotties. All my years of mongering, this is a first where there is drama between 3 agencies in Chicago. And most likely all 3 of them will have operations shut down.

    The websites of MCE isn't the same.

    As how it used to be. And they stopped sending emails. Does anyone know why? Does entail with Will getting busted?

  11. #259

    Tracking

    Quote Originally Posted by Trogon  [View Original Post]
    Ok I need someone more tech savvy.

    I was hoping to connect with a lady in another town.

    Only way to contact is thru Kik.

    I can't on my account as its tied to family.

    Would this be a red flag on work iPad.

    Thanks.
    I'm not sure if there is a record kept online anywhere but if / when you logout any conversation is deleted. When you log in again the person will show up but no conversations show. I use it on an android phone and it has a Kik folder under files and will have all the pictures that have been received so if anyone looks it is there to see. It could be different with apple products and whatever you use it on should have security steps to safeguard. Me, I wouldn't do anything like that on a company owned device because it can be very risky. Who knows, they may have "spyware" apps installed to track what people do with their devices and there may not be any recourse if you get caught.

  12. #258
    Shill, ignore all my posts. A2 hasn't banned me because I'll make a new user so add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 77

    EEC & Angeli & MCE

    Quote Originally Posted by JsGuzman88  [View Original Post]
    Well it's been an interesting weekend. The owner of EEC Angellis Angels went apeshit trying to find out where I am currently living and threatened to bury me. He has at least one cop on his payroll but claims to have many. The girls told me that he uses this corrupt cop to intimidate his workers. I think it works because you rarely see them lash out at him like you do with other agencies. He is a detective and shows off his badge and gun to keep the girls in line. I had one of my contacts / friends come over and she warned me to be careful because his "cops" are looking for me. That might be an exaggeration because from what I have heard over the years it is just one detective from Elgin police dept.

    Yesterday I had a meeting with my lawyer to discuss this and also find out more about the owners arrest last week. Apparently it has to do more with money laundering. Interestingly enough, the owner already had previous experience in 1998 when he took money and forged some documents then deposited it in his bank. Dude is just so smart.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...433-story.html*.

    Some of his clients were paying him via check and the volume of money flowing from these few individuals into his various companies caused suspicion. When law enforcement questioned these clients they flipped and named the owner as head of a prostitution ring. * Afterwards the arrest in Lombard. However I am thinking one of his clients also happens to be an accountant in Elgin that ripped off his church to the tune of $270,000. It was a Tiger Woods looking black dude. The EEC Angellis Angels owner deposited this money into his fake business accounts. The church accountant then was allowed to use this as credit towards services. Apparently booking several times per week for multiple hours. You can google this BTW.

    All in all this ship is sinking. And fast. What you need to be concerned with is your contact info. The girls keep all the text messages they get from the agency. So when you book they let the girls know your name and what time you are coming to the hotel. If you have done outcalls with EEC or Angellis its worse for you. The girls will have your name, time and date plus the location of the meeting and how much to charge you for the services. Sometimes they text sensitive info about you as well. Many of the girls would pull up previous appointments they have and it contains messages going back a whole year. I made them delete mine in front of me. I don't want that shit saved in their phones. I remember one girl got sick and had to go to the ER. She stayed over night. Her family was alerted and when they arrived the girl was not awake and they got access to her text messages. * When she was coherent they had a huge fight because this girl was chatting with another girl about work, clients, the agency, money, and various sex worker topics. The parents threatened to go to the police because they couldn't imagine their innocent young daughter would be a * voluntarily. This is just one instance. I can name quite a few. If that phone was taken to the cops it could have been very nasty for any monger whose info happens to be there. If you are a client of EEC Angellis Angels I suggest you call them and make have each girl delete previously saved texts in her phone. That's why it's a circus. He runs the agency so sloppy and has zero safety protocols. Incredibly unprofessional..
    I've met some of the girls that have once worked at EEC and at MCE. Some of these girls are a great in bed especially the girls that allowed me to do bare. The Pre agency agency prices are a steal when you meet the girls outside. However, some of them are fucked up in their heads, so I just tend to stay away from the craziness and just focus on the ass and young pussy. Without expecting it, I had seen some of the MCE girls at night clubs working as bottle servers, and some that were just partying. I had seen Summer, Kelani, and Kate to name a few. I didn't bother to ask them to fuck me behind agency rates as I had other prospects to fuck at mce that I found more attractive.

    The girls I've met pre agency rates at MCE, I haven't asked whom the owners are. However I do know how Mce came about. I also know that some former mce girls talk negative about the owners while they are working at other agencies.

    I'm wondering, since you know some girls that have told you about Will running Angellis and EEC. Would you happen to have information about MCE from the girls you that you know?

    Some of the girls that once work at MCE happened to work at Angellis / EEC. I was even told by some girls that Markus was.

    Acquaintance with Will for a few years. That can implicate MCE once Will goes to court this late December for money laundering. It won't be 2 agencies gone, it will be 3 of them in Chicago.

  13. #257

    EEC & Angellis Update Death Threats

    Well it's been an interesting weekend. The owner of EEC Angellis Angels went apeshit trying to find out where I am currently living and threatened to bury me. He has at least one cop on his payroll but claims to have many. The girls told me that he uses this corrupt cop to intimidate his workers. I think it works because you rarely see them lash out at him like you do with other agencies. He is a detective and shows off his badge and gun to keep the girls in line. I had one of my contacts / friends come over and she warned me to be careful because his "cops" are looking for me. That might be an exaggeration because from what I have heard over the years it is just one detective from Elgin police dept.

    Yesterday I had a meeting with my lawyer to discuss this and also find out more about the owners arrest last week. Apparently it has to do more with money laundering. Interestingly enough, the owner already had previous experience in 1998 when he took money and forged some documents then deposited it in his bank. Dude is just so smart.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...433-story.html*.

    Some of his clients were paying him via check and the volume of money flowing from these few individuals into his various companies caused suspicion. When law enforcement questioned these clients they flipped and named the owner as head of a prostitution ring. * Afterwards the arrest in Lombard. However I am thinking one of his clients also happens to be an accountant in Elgin that ripped off his church to the tune of $270,000. It was a Tiger Woods looking black dude. The EEC Angellis Angels owner deposited this money into his fake business accounts. The church accountant then was allowed to use this as credit towards services. Apparently booking several times per week for multiple hours. You can google this BTW.

    All in all this ship is sinking. And fast. What you need to be concerned with is your contact info. The girls keep all the text messages they get from the agency. So when you book they let the girls know your name and what time you are coming to the hotel. If you have done outcalls with EEC or Angellis its worse for you. The girls will have your name, time and date plus the location of the meeting and how much to charge you for the services. Sometimes they text sensitive info about you as well. Many of the girls would pull up previous appointments they have and it contains messages going back a whole year. I made them delete mine in front of me. I don't want that shit saved in their phones. I remember one girl got sick and had to go to the ER. She stayed over night. Her family was alerted and when they arrived the girl was not awake and they got access to her text messages. * When she was coherent they had a huge fight because this girl was chatting with another girl about work, clients, the agency, money, and various sex worker topics. The parents threatened to go to the police because they couldn't imagine their innocent young daughter would be a * voluntarily. This is just one instance. I can name quite a few. If that phone was taken to the cops it could have been very nasty for any monger whose info happens to be there. If you are a client of EEC Angellis Angels I suggest you call them and make have each girl delete previously saved texts in her phone. That's why it's a circus. He runs the agency so sloppy and has zero safety protocols. Incredibly unprofessional.

    I also learned that the owner makes money from selling the girls drugs. His profit margins are very low because his expenditures are very high. The girls like working there in general because the owner pays for almost everything. He is a real ego maniac and likes to be in charge of a bunch of hotties who basically have to fuck him on demand. So to make his money back he sells them coke and other things. That's where the bulk of his profits come from. Last year he had a serious problem because one girl over dosed in his place from ketamine. It makes sense. Let them go out and work and then.

    Bring back the money and buy shit from the owner. That's why they love my place. If they come to me they party for free. Hence the reason I am such a popular guy!

    One thing he does that I think is absolutely nuts is hire illegals. If ICE checks their phones and sees any texts or conversations even from other girls they will have a "international human trafficking" charge. Which is federal. His Brazilians, Colombians, and I know at least one Russian girl who could hardly speak English. Dude takes mad risks. It's like the Titanic. It's going down son. Get yourself a life raft. Or don't board that sinking ship in the first place.

  14. #256

    I'll add

    Quote Originally Posted by Monger5512  [View Original Post]
    Doing god's work son.

    I will add:

    Nicole: great looking; amazing nuru and rub; 2 holes are open; talks an awful lot. All and all a good time.
    Alicia if she ever comes back 2 doors available. Booty was 10 and vet beautiful. I think it helped that I spoke Spanish. Waiting for her to come back.

  15. #255

    Ya know its harddd out here for a pimp

    Quote Originally Posted by JsGuzman88  [View Original Post]
    How do I know? I have KNOWN dude. I used to date Milena who has been working for Angellis and EEC since 2016. But before that she worked at a club / lounge that I was part owner. She would come to my place at night with a few of her girls. I got to know many of the best bitches back then. You know what girls do when they are together and drinking? They talk shit about their boss, the company they work with, and the clients they had. Once she started making big money from escorting she quit the hostess job. But she still knew all the best VIP bottle service girls in the city. I learned from dating these types of women that it's always best to be on their good side because they are bat shit crazy when they are sober and worse when they are under the influence of substances. My place always had substances available and was known as a fun place to party for free. When EEC and Angellis would get new girls I often saw them before they officially went on the roster.

    Milena especially would complain about how disorganized the owner was and showed me pics of him and told me the stupid shit he would do everyday. I have plenty of stories and videos about that circus. The owners are clowns and I am shocked it's taken this long for them to get busted. It's just a matter of time before they raid their goldcoast incall. They accepted credit cards for awhile and have all those clients in their system. I am wondering who is going to get exposed. If the feds put pressure on one of the girls for tax evasion (you know the girls aren't reporting their $1000 per day earnings) then these girls will flip on him in a new york minute. Be careful out there. It's getting hard out there for a pimp!
    Ha you know what man, this is not only insightful and truthful, ya got me laughing with that last comment LOL.

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