The Sugar World

[NdFanMan]

I have sugar dated in many cities throughout the US. In my experience, the girls are pretty much all the same. The guys are pretty much all the same (I am not saying that I sugar date guys. I just have spoken with many guys and I also hear the stories from women about them). Here are my observations about Vegas from someone who only visits Vegas for fun:

-Like every other city, there are pro girls, stripper girls, new girls, unsure girls, and pretty much every other type of girl you can think of. One thing I did notice is that the girls appear to be a little more attractive than the girls in other cities. I am sure you guys have encountered those 200+ pound girls who you wonder why they are even bothering? Well I haven't seen any of those as I have perused the site.

-Girls in Vegas often are very blunt about what they require. Most other girls are negotiable elsewhere. But Vegas seems to have more girls who will just lay it out there and say this is what they require. And if you say no, quite a good number of them will wish you luck and move on. I would say about 25% of the girls I have chatted with have been like this.

-Girls in Vegas tend to want a little more than girls elsewhere. You would be amazed at how successful I have been getting girls to 100 in other cities (Yes sugar babies, not crackheads). Even if not 100, I have gotten 150-200 for overnight dates as many pops as I can muster. Guys have asked me before how I can do 8-10 girls in a 4-5 day period and still have the stamina? Practice baby, practice!

-I think many of these girls you can get them for 200-250. You just have to know how to play their game and talk their language. For 200 you can get a cute girl, someone I would rate a 7. For 250 you can get a pretty girl, someone I would rate an 8. And if you want better looking girls, you will probably need to spend 300 or more (probably closer to the more). Afterall you are in Vegas and there is a lot of money. You will see a guy win big at the casino and then go plop down a premium for the girls. The more times a guy plops down big money, the more emboldened the girls will be to demand more money. When a girl says 'I have gotten 500 or 1000' before, she may well have gotten it once. And she is hoping she will get it again. I keep telling guys everywhere that they need to stand firm and all guys will benefit. Case in point, our fellow mongers in Cincinnati OH used to have the girls down to 100-150 a date. And we aren't talking about HH or FH dates. We are talking 2-5 hour dates. I had a SB in Cincinnati who came out and asked me for 150 for an overnight. And she lived in her own apartment, so she could host. The nice thing was that I got a hotel stipend of 100 when I traveled to Cincy. Plus I got mileage and food stipends also. So basically I was staying at her place when I was in town. Used my stipend money and basically got it for free. I miss that girl, but I don't go there too often these days.

I hope my ranting has helped.

I'm thinking about a trip to Vegas in February was wonder what the sugarbaby scene is like? What's norm ppm? Any tips on negotiating?

[Teratogen666]

She gave me her email so I've been talking to her that way. Feels like it's 1999 LOL. Anyways I saw her again last night. She didn't take any money. Can't figure her out but she loves sex.

I finally got a hold of her. Going to try to see her soon. She's interested and wants to see me. I only asked for a pic. Just one. She sent me 10 nudes / sexy shots.

[BumbaCloth]

I'm thinking about a trip to Vegas in February was wonder what the sugarbaby scene is like? What's norm ppm? Any tips on negotiating?

[VivaMattyVegas]

The link to her profile is at the top of my original report less than 24 hours ago.

Can / will you post a link to any girls you are discussing?

[Newbie1961]

Can / will you post a link to any girls you are discussing?

I really don't think this girl is too smart though. Her defense was "I've done it before & didn't get pregnant" to which my response was "Congrats. All it takes is one time of you not getting lucky and you're pregnant".

I really wanted to say "Are you an idiot?" but went with the kinder option.

[VivaMattyVegas]

I really don't think this girl is too smart though. Her defense was "I've done it before & didn't get pregnant" to which my response was "Congrats. All it takes is one time of you not getting lucky and you're pregnant".

I really wanted to say "Are you an idiot?" but went with the kinder option.

About the girls, high-end or otherwise and condom usage. I've only had a single Casino gal initiate the condom activity if I didn't ask.

As far as "these girls not being smart enough, etc. ", I'll just keep basing my activity on risk tolerance, not how stupid I think the object of my risk level is. Hahaha.

Good luck!

[HolyStone1975]

About the girls, high-end or otherwise and condom usage. I've only had a single Casino gal initiate the condom activity if I didn't ask.

As far as "these girls not being smart enough, etc. ", I'll just keep basing my activity on risk tolerance, not how stupid I think the object of my risk level is. Hahaha.

Good luck!

I have had one Eros girl ask and 2 SA girls. Outside that, it surprised me how quickly the EROS girls (who are more often than not actual escorts) have allowed me to go bb and allowed cip. None of the casino girls I have met have ever asked and the two SA girls that did was only because it was their first time meeting someone from the site. I suspect they dropped the request with later people.

[TechSticles]

Hahaha. Do you really think these girls are smart enough to do that and those sites rely on everyone participating. If no one in my family participates, I am fine.

Honestly, I have never really had an issue with a girl being on birth control or not. If I think they are lying and / or not willing to go get plan b, I will ask if if I can bust on their face or turn the end of the session in to them giving me a BJ and finish in their mouth. I have yet to have an issue and rolled through a bunch of Vegas providers, SA / WYP girls, or casino girls when there and 90% have never asked for a condom, including a handful of high dollar EROS girls.

About the girls, high-end or otherwise and condom usage. I've only had a single Casino gal initiate the condom activity if I didn't ask.

As far as "these girls not being smart enough, etc. ", I'll just keep basing my activity on risk tolerance, not how stupid I think the object of my risk level is. Hahaha.

Good luck!

[HolyStone1975]

But with DNA testing for ancestry sites, etc, becoming more and more prevalent, I don't think the time-honored option of vanishing is as foolproof as it once was. LOL.

Hahaha. Do you really think these girls are smart enough to do that and those sites rely on everyone participating. If no one in my family participates, I am fine.

Honestly, I have never really had an issue with a girl being on birth control or not. If I think they are lying and / or not willing to go get plan b, I will ask if if I can bust on their face or turn the end of the session in to them giving me a BJ and finish in their mouth. I have yet to have an issue and rolled through a bunch of Vegas providers, SA / WYP girls, or casino girls when there and 90% have never asked for a condom, including a handful of high dollar EROS girls.

[TechSticles]

Many girls would rather take the plan b since they don't have to take it every day, unless they are fucking a guys bareback every day.

I don't ask them to take it in front of me, I just casually remind the Vegas girls that they don't have my real name, I don't live in Vegas, and they are 19-20 and they really don't want a kid they have to take care of themselves from a 50 yr old stranger they fucked once in Vegas for 300 bucks.

But with DNA testing for ancestry sites, etc, becoming more and more prevalent, I don't think the time-honored option of vanishing is as foolproof as it once was. LOL.

[HolyStone1975]

I've read where some of these chicks would rather pop a morning after pill. Go get her one of those and make sure she takes it in front of you. Not fool proof, but seems to work for those that use that method.

Many girls would rather take the plan b since they don't have to take it every day, unless they are fucking a guys bareback every day.

I don't ask them to take it in front of me, I just casually remind the Vegas girls that they don't have my real name, I don't live in Vegas, and they are 19-20 and they really don't want a kid they have to take care of themselves from a 50 yr old stranger they fucked once in Vegas for 300 bucks.

[TechSticles]

https://www.seeking.com/member/e0c97...e-91e83df74284

I'm not having great luck with my 3rd stint as a paid member on SA.

I thought this one would be a gem. Very cute, little chubby but she loves rough sex and was fine taking it bare.

Set up a 5 hour date with her in a few days and I'm REALLY glad I texted her this morning because she admitted she isn't taking birth control. Happy she was honest with me, disappointed and somewhat surprised that she wants to take the risk of getting knocked up.

Not going to say to avoid this one because she's really cute (in my opinion) and I'm sure other BM's would have fun with her, but just be cautious when she says she's fine with taking it bare.

I've read where some of these chicks would rather pop a morning after pill. Go get her one of those and make sure she takes it in front of you. Not fool proof, but seems to work for those that use that method.

[VivaMattyVegas]

https://www.seeking.com/member/e0c97...e-91e83df74284

I'm not having great luck with my 3rd stint as a paid member on SA.

I thought this one would be a gem. Very cute, little chubby but she loves rough sex and was fine taking it bare.

Set up a 5 hour date with her in a few days and I'm REALLY glad I texted her this morning because she admitted she isn't taking birth control. Happy she was honest with me, disappointed and somewhat surprised that she wants to take the risk of getting knocked up.

Not going to say to avoid this one because she's really cute (in my opinion) and I'm sure other BM's would have fun with her, but just be cautious when she says she's fine with taking it bare.

[HollywoodGuy]

I have girl # 12's email address for any senior member that needs it. PM me.

[HollywoodGuy]

https://www.seeking.com/member/ac37b...f-b18d91f9ff4d

Now this girl is a hottie in my opinion. Has that pretty face and nice body look. Could probably pull off the innocent girl look or the nasty bad girl look also. Same way I got her number as my prior story. I reached out and she isn't very responsive but she responds enough to get right down to business. She comes out also at 1 K per date. I politely decline and said that's just too high of an ask. She asked me what I would consider fair. I didn't answer. Then I told her if she wants to get more reasonable, she knows how to get a hold of me. Next day she messages and suggested 500. I again politely decline and said that is not reasonable. Then she goes onto this tirade against me. This is just a small part of it:

Anyway, she went on to say she was going to report me. I said report me to who, your fairy Godmother? I then sent her the screenshot of my friend that I asked for the number from, so that she could see how stupid she was for wanting to report me. And besides, what is she going to report? A burner number that I can cancel and get a new number? A profile that she doesn't even know if that was the one that she gave her number to? These girls are probably bitter because they feel they deserve 1 K for the golden pussies and they aren't getting it so they just lash out. Someone needs to sit them down and teach them economics 101.

Anyway, enough of my rants. Happy mongering guys!

She did you a big favor. Tummy is not flat, ass is a bit flat and her boobs are hanging.