"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[EvilTmp]

I am opening up a black hole here, but I wonder (not obsessively, nor pathologically, but upon occasion) what the motivation is for the time and effort it takes to dupe me into driving to a location for a meet. Once it has become clear that there is no additional financial incentive (which I get 100% what is the point? Do they hate mongers? (I love the quote in the Bible RE: whoremongers, I often quote that passage to my monger friends) , Is it sociopathy or sociopathic traits? A DSM 5 diagnosable condition (likely because of the extent of the abberancy). It is truly fucked up. I am not complaining so much as simply noting this from an socioanthropological point of view. From a practical point of view, and the reason for my attempt at understanding, is that it is a cost associated charged against my mongering. That does make me a bit angry. I appreciate the observable metrics so as to recognize and rapidly deprecate the particular instance of pursuit in order to more efficiently fuck young hot young pussy. The main question I have is there no reason for pursuing questionable profiles in the unlikely event that you may score some hot young pussy? I suppose that is a personal decision. In any event, my goal is to fuck hot young pussy. (There, I said it 3 times. That is the gist of this post-- fuck hot young pussy. Everything else you can ignore.).

Not sure the point you're trying to make here but in my experience every single girl on SA is fundamentally and undeniably broken. Every. Single. One. It's a melting pot of aberrations. It ranges from girls being dead inside and having a complete lack of empathy (think natural scammers and grifters) to being on serious psychotropic meds, to clearly having personality disorders (BPD is rampant on SA). Generously sprinkle rampant depression, anxiety, and recreational drugs and you have a good description of your average SA college girl. And the lying. Don't forget massive amounts of lying about anything and everything. Having said that, don't be an ahole to these girls (except the dead inside scammer, fuck'them and waste their time any chance you get). The poor lost college girls deserve to be treated with some care and we should leave them better than we found them. Always remember that you're dealing with a seriously flawed individual and proceed accordingly!

[DrYellow]

Thanks. Yeah the thrill of a little chase definitely gets my blood pumping. With all the tips for newbies SB's going around I think it's getting harder to find girls who aren't the monger attracting type.

Guess at this point I'll be more confident after the meet and greets, I'll hopefully find some I can disarm.

You will probably find a monger bias on most Internet forums on the subject, but if you're a newbie and looking for newbie girls not yet ready to drop the panties, they are out there. Just try to come across as the friendly yet very "helpful and generous" type to the young ones that mention being new and / or platonic. Platonic situations are definitely not my angle but I've found and successfully cracked open more than one genuine virgin doing this; the sky is the limit on what you can find out there, given enough time investment. That's the real key, time is money. If you want it fast and cheap, be prepared to open the wallet. If you don't like opening the wallet and want cheap and quality, be prepared to donate time.

[MikeJones1962]

Yes, I have noticed Maryland, Maryland; Virginia, Virginia; and several others where the city name is the state name. I think that works in New York, New York (NYC), but not other states. Often the person with that profile has logged on from another country. I think it has been a fake, scammer, or photo seller in every case I've seen. They apparently have no knowledge of geography.

I am opening up a black hole here, but I wonder (not obsessively, nor pathologically, but upon occasion) what the motivation is for the time and effort it takes to dupe me into driving to a location for a meet. Once it has become clear that there is no additional financial incentive (which I get 100% what is the point? Do they hate mongers? (I love the quote in the Bible RE: whoremongers, I often quote that passage to my monger friends) , Is it sociopathy or sociopathic traits? A DSM 5 diagnosable condition (likely because of the extent of the abberancy). It is truly fucked up. I am not complaining so much as simply noting this from an socioanthropological point of view. From a practical point of view, and the reason for my attempt at understanding, is that it is a cost associated charged against my mongering. That does make me a bit angry. I appreciate the observable metrics so as to recognize and rapidly deprecate the particular instance of pursuit in order to more efficiently fuck young hot young pussy. The main question I have is there no reason for pursuing questionable profiles in the unlikely event that you may score some hot young pussy? I suppose that is a personal decision. In any event, my goal is to fuck hot young pussy. (There, I said it 3 times. That is the gist of this post-- fuck hot young pussy. Everything else you can ignore.).

[DrTravel2015]

I've noticed that if the location is the state, state then it is likely a fake profile.

Yes, I have noticed Maryland, Maryland; Virginia, Virginia; and several others where the city name is the state name. I think that works in New York, New York (NYC), but not other states. Often the person with that profile has logged on from another country. I think it has been a fake, scammer, or photo seller in every case I've seen. They apparently have no knowledge of geography.

[Newbie1961]

SA will let any new girls post a profile if its halfway legit. They need news girls to make us keep paying. Its best to just post a pic as suggested. Because guys yelling to report and ban them it does no good. Yea they are banned (if you are lucky) but they are up and running with a new profile in less than 12 hours. Now you have brought attention to your profile for doing it and they will flag you and ban you if they get a whiff of anything questionable you are messaging. Block them, report them here with a pic and move on. If you have a vagina you can do anything practically anything on there except underage for free on there. Accept it, fuck young girls and let it go.

Agree 100%. From now on I will be doing exactly that. I don't think this violates the PII policy.

[Grafenberg]

Interesting. Love the monger board. Attached screenshot of SA profile per someones recommendation because of deleted profiles.

I've noticed that if the location is the state, state then it is likely a fake profile.

[MikeJones1962]

So many of these girls on SA delete their profiles, just to put them back up later or do a new profile.

They do it for different reasons, but it's frustrating when so many of the links with important info, the good, the bad & the ugly, can't be tied to a potential Babies image.

A pic will let us know who the post is about & can be saved for future reference.

Thanks!

DF.

Agree 100%. From now on I will be doing exactly that. I don't think this violates the PII policy.

[MikeJones1962]

I was chatting with her last Tuesday and she told me she lived in Norfolk. I never did try to meet her because of the distance. I'm glad I didn't try now after the experience you had. Wonder where she really lives.

Interesting. Love the monger board. Attached screenshot of SA profile per someones recommendation because of deleted profiles.

[Mike1991]

https://www.seeking.com/member/91ed7...a-fb8823b3c88e

Greetings fellow mongers. This one was a bust. Complained about being short on rent (blah, blah, blah). Needed $180 urgently. Lives in Roanoke. Wanted me to drive there (2 hr 43 min-- this was this morning at 3 AM I am driving mind you), so she agreed to meet me in Appomattox (about half way). Great looking pics via text. So I told her I would give her $400 (to ensure against no-show). Texted all the way down until 38 min before arrival then nothing. Ghosted. FYI. Fucking waste of my time. Fortunately, one of my regulars was open for business at 5:30 this morning. But I love chasing NEW PUSSY. Happy mongering. I am going to bed now.

MJ.

I was chatting with her last Tuesday and she told me she lived in Norfolk. I never did try to meet her because of the distance. I'm glad I didn't try now after the experience you had. Wonder where she really lives.

[OliverNP]

Another thing we need to consider is that these girls are literally living their lives in cyberspace, so they have a PhD in texting. There are definite does & don'ts when texting.

The best explanation of how to gain the upper hand when texting is from listening to the Barstool Sports, Call Her Daddy podcasts.

Sophia is the queen of texting to win.

I unfortunately found it after losing my unicorn of a SB, 2 2/2 years of total bliss. She had a live in BF, then the last eight months was her fianc. They moved closer to me & she & I were excited to continue our arrangement. She asked me to chill a while until she felt safe sneaking out again. Saw her once after the move but was inpatient to see her again on the reg. She got spooked that I was going to mess up her life & she ended us.

If I had only sent a text at a time & waited for a response, minutes, hours, or even days, she would have felt comfortable and we might still be an item. I sent too many texts & looked too needy. She had begged me to be patient that she "didn't want to lose us!

The other nice thing about the podcast is it's a look inside two gorgeous 20 somethings minds to see how their wired sexually!

Good hunting Guys!

I have listened to that a couple of times -- I found it while trying to find a podcast focused around the sugaring lifestyle, which it is not. Although it's great for getting a 20-something female perspective on sex related topics.

[DoggieFan]

Agreed. Easier to just post a screenshot of their profile.

Yes, but definitely post the link always too!

[DoggieFan]

Yeah, often they initiate the sexting, then get cold feet because they got themselves in too deep. Like:

Her: I want to be roughed up and choked.

Him: Ok, I think we can do that.

Her: (thinks to self, oh shit what did I just sign up for? What if his definition of rough or choking is more severe than mine? It's not safe to meet him now.).

Most hot young women are walking, talking contradiction machines. I can't tell you how many mistakes I've made along the way, and I'm always looking for ways to improve my sugaring skills. That's the big difference between sugaring and mongering I think -- skills don't really come into play in traditional mongering. An escort provides a service and she's probably not going to quote a client unless she intends to deliver. SB mentality is different, money is only part of the reason they're doing it -- experimenting with exciting new sexual experiences is often a big part of their motive. Depending on how much of her motivations are money based, the dynamic can sometimes become more similar to "free" Internet hookups rather than mongering.

Another thing we need to consider is that these girls are literally living their lives in cyberspace, so they have a PhD in texting. There are definite does & don'ts when texting.

The best explanation of how to gain the upper hand when texting is from listening to the Barstool Sports, Call Her Daddy podcasts.

Sophia is the queen of texting to win.

I unfortunately found it after losing my unicorn of a SB, 2 2/2 years of total bliss. She had a live in BF, then the last eight months was her fiancé. They moved closer to me & she & I were excited to continue our arrangement. She asked me to chill a while until she felt safe sneaking out again. Saw her once after the move but was inpatient to see her again on the reg. She got spooked that I was going to mess up her life & she ended us.

If I had only sent a text at a time & waited for a response, minutes, hours, or even days, she would have felt comfortable and we might still be an item. I sent too many texts & looked too needy. She had begged me to be patient that she "didn't want to lose us!

The other nice thing about the podcast is it's a look inside two gorgeous 20 somethings minds to see how their wired sexually!

Good hunting Guys!

[BookerTNelson]

So many of these girls on SA delete their profiles, just to put them back up later or do a new profile.

They do it for different reasons, but it's frustrating when so many of the links with important info, the good, the bad & the ugly, can't be tied to a potential Babies image.

A pic will let us know who the post is about & can be saved for future reference.

Thanks!

DF.

Agreed. Easier to just post a screenshot of their profile.

[DoggieFan]

So many of these girls on SA delete their profiles, just to put them back up later or do a new profile.

They do it for different reasons, but it's frustrating when so many of the links with important info, the good, the bad & the ugly, can't be tied to a potential Babies image.

A pic will let us know who the post is about & can be saved for future reference.

Thanks!

DF.

[Decadentme]

You will probably find a monger bias on most Internet forums on the subject, but if you're a newbie and looking for newbie girls not yet ready to drop the panties, they are out there. Just try to come across as the friendly yet very "helpful and generous" type to the young ones that mention being new and / or platonic. Platonic situations are definitely not my angle but I've found and successfully cracked open more than one genuine virgin doing this; the sky is the limit on what you can find out there, given enough time investment. That's the real key, time is money. If you want it fast and cheap, be prepared to open the wallet. If you don't like opening the wallet and want cheap and quality, be prepared to donate time.

Well said.