"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Scorpio22]

Good point. I've switched over to Tinder as my primary source since October and I've had good success. Some consistent first time P4 P gems, along with some freebies just because I connected with some chicks that were open to something besides a 20 y/o guy who doesn't know how to push the right buttons sexually.

I got banned on tinder about a year ago looking for SB's and have not been able to sign back on with a new account. Is there some way to bypass the ban? They seem to recognize the numbers I use and multiple FB accounts I try to sign back up with.

[FanRat]

Good point. I've switched over to Tinder as my primary source since October and I've had good success. Some consistent first time P4 P gems, along with some freebies just because I connected with some chicks that were open to something besides a 20 why / o guy who doesn't know how to push the right buttons sexually.

After reading these posts about Tinder I thought I'd give it a try so I set up an account on my PC. Windows 10. I hate trying to do shit on my phone bc the keyboard is tiny. Anyway, I can't add a bio on PC. Just pictures. WTF is that? There is no option anywhere to add or edit your bio. And all I can find online is about the phone app.

Anyone have any experience with it?

Thanks and be safe!

[BookerTNelson]

I have pretty good luck on there. I have found some really good gems that were actually doing P 4 P for the first time. Usually 18-25 yo (and I'm 58 haha).

The thing I like is I never have to worry about being banned and losing my money like on SA. Just like the girls that get banned on SA, I can have a new profile up and running on Tinder or Bumble within 8-10 hours again.

Good point. I've switched over to Tinder as my primary source since October and I've had good success. Some consistent first time P4 P gems, along with some freebies just because I connected with some chicks that were open to something besides a 20 y/o guy who doesn't know how to push the right buttons sexually.

[BookerTNelson]

I've been reading that some guys have hit gold with low wage workers like fast food, check out girls, retail clerks, etc. Or waitresses / bartenders in decent restaurants. I stay in hotels a lot & there are often hot, young housekeepers. Too risky with them because your identity is known. I've had them laughing & smiling a few times & was very tempted to go for it.

I've seen where some guys write there play number on a sugar pack & slid it to a bartended or waitress as they're leaving & say, plenty more where that came from or some other line. Some Daddies have made up business cards, that's interesting.

So I was outside Wilmington, NC and went to a chain BBQ restaurant just as they were closing. Maybe six people there but I ended up the last one. The girl that took my order was my perfect flavor. Young, super cute, great tiny heart shaped ass with a thigh gap.

So she brings me my food to the table & smiles big again & now I'm the only customer left. She goes and locks the door & closes her register. Then comes out to sweep up. I chat her up a bit. She's 23 (looked 18) local country girl. Working full time, part time student, named Chelsea.

It seemed she was sweeping a lot more close to me and leaning to get under tables in a way to give me a great view of her ass.

I decided, fuck it. Wrote my play name & play cell number on a napkin. I saw all the other workers (2) were out of ear shot in the back of the kitchen. Chelsea was emptying the trash right near my exit door. So I walked over, she gave me a big smile as I put my trash in the open bag she was holding.

I said, if you need a little extra cash for Christmas call me, Hun. She said "what?" I could tell she didn't get it. I said "I'd love to hang out with you when you get out of here. Maybe you could use a little extra cash for Christmas? As I handed her the napkin.

She said a very polite "no thank you" like I asked if she wanted a bite of my banana pudding!

I left & got into my truck, which I realized she had a clear view of my license plate. Oh, & of course I had asked her when she was sweeping where my hotel was located, so she knew where I was staying. Then I really panicked when I realized that I paid with my company AE with my name on it!

If I do it again, I'll be smarter. I've got a very legit gift to chat them up & I've got the vibe before but never asked for the order.

First time I tried.

Luckily Uncle LEO never knocked on my hotel girl. I didn't mention sex but she knew what I was asking. Not a great move.

Nice story, So I ALWAYS go after low. Medium wage workers. I do it mostly because that's honestly where the gold is in these situations. They're fucking anyway, they probably hate their jobs and it may be their side job they're working to make ends meet so a SD giving them some side cash for what they're already doing is a win / win for them and they may be able to quit their side job.

Always carry cash. I travel frequently for work as well but I always keep some cash for coffee, lunch, etc when I'm making a play on a potential SB. The thing with waitresses is they usually get hit on frequently so I try to build a little more rapport with them by frequenting them if I'm really interested. Other things like cashiers, Walmart workers, etc. I shoot my shot right there with a card that I have for the occasion. I find a reason to engage them, make a few jokes, ask for lunch recommendations, give them compliments and then go for the kill. 3/10 I'll get at least a text and usually 1/10 it'll go beyond that one text conversation.

Also, don't think LE would even think twice about your situation. At worst, you're a creepy guy that took a shot.

[Newbie1961]

I have pretty good luck on there. I have found some really good gems that were actually doing P 4 P for the first time. Usually 18-25 yo (and I'm 58 haha).

The thing I like is I never have to worry about being banned and losing my money like on SA. Just like the girls that get banned on SA, I can have a new profile up and running on Tinder or Bumble within 8-10 hours again.

You can only message them through tinder once you've "matched".

I use the premium service for a few reasons:

- Unlimited swipes.

- I can change my location.

- I can turn off where I actually am.

- They give me ultra likes daily to boost my visibility.

My strategy is just treating it like SA once I've matched. I also find the ones I'm really interested in on IG / SC and get a glimpse into what they're into, post about, etc because the best candidates kind of follow a trend.

Once you're in a conversation with them it's all about having some game and getting them to open a bit and be honest. As I've stated many times, my goal is to flip Civvies into SB's that are open to some extra cash for less work than their weekend or night jobs. It's the same way I approach Baristas, waitresses, cashiers, etc. It's just through a medium they're more comfortable with.

[DoggieFan]

You can only message them through tinder once you've "matched".

I use the premium service for a few reasons:

- Unlimited swipes.

- I can change my location.

- I can turn off where I actually am.

- They give me ultra likes daily to boost my visibility.

My strategy is just treating it like SA once I've matched. I also find the ones I'm really interested in on IG / SC and get a glimpse into what they're into, post about, etc because the best candidates kind of follow a trend.

Once you're in a conversation with them it's all about having some game and getting them to open a bit and be honest. As I've stated many times, my goal is to flip Civvies into SB's that are open to some extra cash for less work than their weekend or night jobs. It's the same way I approach Baristas, waitresses, cashiers, etc. It's just through a medium they're more comfortable with.

I've been reading that some guys have hit gold with low wage workers like fast food, check out girls, retail clerks, etc. Or waitresses / bartenders in decent restaurants. I stay in hotels a lot & there are often hot, young housekeepers. Too risky with them because your identity is known. I've had them laughing & smiling a few times & was very tempted to go for it.

I've seen where some guys write there play number on a sugar pack & slid it to a bartended or waitress as they're leaving & say, plenty more where that came from or some other line. Some Daddies have made up business cards, that's interesting.

So I was outside Wilmington, NC and went to a chain BBQ restaurant just as they were closing. Maybe six people there but I ended up the last one. The girl that took my order was my perfect flavor. Young, super cute, great tiny heart shaped ass with a thigh gap.

So she brings me my food to the table & smiles big again & now I'm the only customer left. She goes and locks the door & closes her register. Then comes out to sweep up. I chat her up a bit. She's 23 (looked 18) local country girl. Working full time, part time student, named Chelsea.

It seemed she was sweeping a lot more close to me and leaning to get under tables in a way to give me a great view of her ass.

I decided, fuck it. Wrote my play name & play cell number on a napkin. I saw all the other workers (2) were out of ear shot in the back of the kitchen. Chelsea was emptying the trash right near my exit door. So I walked over, she gave me a big smile as I put my trash in the open bag she was holding.

I said, if you need a little extra cash for Christmas call me, Hun. She said "what?" I could tell she didn't get it. I said "I'd love to hang out with you when you get out of here. Maybe you could use a little extra cash for Christmas? As I handed her the napkin.

She said a very polite "no thank you" like I asked if she wanted a bite of my banana pudding!

I left & got into my truck, which I realized she had a clear view of my license plate. Oh, & of course I had asked her when she was sweeping where my hotel was located, so she knew where I was staying. Then I really panicked when I realized that I paid with my company AE with my name on it!

If I do it again, I'll be smarter. I've got a very legit gift to chat them up & I've got the vibe before but never asked for the order.

First time I tried.

Luckily Uncle LEO never knocked on my hotel girl. I didn't mention sex but she knew what I was asking. Not a great move.

[ArtImperial]

I've heard that line as well, and I can understand it. Everything is a negotiation, and both sides have something the other wants. If I was a girl in this situation, I wouldn't walk into a strange man's house either.

For me, I'm fine having a girl come to my place after the M&G, but I also get that she might still not be comfortable with that.

Anyone have info on this lady? https://www.seeking.com/member/4cdc8...f-0a04b40e37c3.

I am meeting her for lunch today and she has repeatedly asked that if we click can we get a room after. She wants to do a hotel the first time but then will come to my place for regular meets after that. I kinda follow the logic that she doesn't want to come to my place until we know we will want to see each other regularly but I also think maybe she knows it will just be a 1 time deal. That may be fine too though.

She texted me a few other pics and she is a very pretty young lady.

Thanks and be safe?

[BookerTNelson]

Thanks,

How do you message them? Do you need to pay to message?

Can you use Tinder on a laptop? It has to be on a phone app?

You can only message them through tinder once you've "matched".

I use the premium service for a few reasons:

- Unlimited swipes.

- I can change my location.

- I can turn off where I actually am.

- They give me ultra likes daily to boost my visibility.

My strategy is just treating it like SA once I've matched. I also find the ones I'm really interested in on IG / SC and get a glimpse into what they're into, post about, etc because the best candidates kind of follow a trend.

Once you're in a conversation with them it's all about having some game and getting them to open a bit and be honest. As I've stated many times, my goal is to flip Civvies into SB's that are open to some extra cash for less work than their weekend or night jobs. It's the same way I approach Baristas, waitresses, cashiers, etc. It's just through a medium they're more comfortable with.

[TopGun9]

There is a monthly charge for the premium Tinder services. It's worth paying for the upgrades, I think. You get to see who likes you before you make a move. Since I put myself out there as a SD, I know that's what a girl is interested in before I waste time.

Yes, you can use Tinder on a laptop. Download the app on their site. It works pretty-much the same as the mobile app. But, you will still need either a cell # or Facebook account to use Tinder. That's why it's easier to use a burner and prepaid Visa to sign up. That's or create a throwaway FB account. But you will still need a burner to sign up for that.

I don't message anyone on Tinder unless they like me first. It's clear I'm a SD. Interested girls swipe and then I know they are interested in sugar. Then I message them and set up a M&G.

Just be sure not to talk sugar on Tinder. You can get banned.

Instagram works pretty-much the same way. Put yourself out there and wait for SBs to show interest.

It's like fishing, in that you need to be patient.

In my experience, the next two weeks aren't the best for sugaring. Girls are busy with family and the holidays. Once the new year arrives, sugaring gets busy because all the holiday bills are coming due.

My SA premium is expiring. I have enough contacts from there to keep me busy for a few weeks. I will give this Tinder thing a try.

[FarFarAway]

Any one using a TRAC Phone.

Thanks CM.

I have had only TracFones, and I have liked them. I have posted about them before. It is very economical, and you can pay for use completely anonymously, w / prepaid debit cards through their website. I put Google Voice on it and then can also text from the GV web page when I am at home on my laptop, without arousing suspicion from the SO.

[EBob1111]

She texted me that her phone is blowing up with texts from numbers she doesn't know, she's probably going to shut down to make it stop. For the record I'm all for sharing intel on SBs but don't think it's good practice to give out their numbers to people they don't know. They are all easy to contact through SA and they can respond if they choose to. Passing out their number makes them feel like ******, ruins their delusion that they're not, and screws it up for the rest of us.

[Truncated]

Any one using a TRAC Phone.

Thanks CM.

I was using TracFone for a while, then I switched to WalMart's phone plan. MyFamilyMobile.com.

At one point during the registration process, there is a redirect that reveals the plan is somehow involved with TracFone.

It's $24/ month for unlimited text / talk and some data. It uses T-Mobile's network and the coverage is good.

The registration requires minimal info.

[EBob1111]

Anyone have info on this lady? https://www.seeking.com/member/4cdc8...f-0a04b40e37c3.

I am meeting her for lunch today and she has repeatedly asked that if we click can we get a room after. She wants to do a hotel the first time but then will come to my place for regular meets after that. I kinda follow the logic that she doesn't want to come to my place until we know we will want to see each other regularly but I also think maybe she knows it will just be a 1 time deal. That may be fine too though.

She texted me a few other pics and she is a very pretty young lady.

Thanks and be safe?

I was texting with her a couple weeks ago and we were planning to meet but when she asked about what kind of allowance I could provide and I started at 200 ppm she told me that was much lower than she's used to getting and that pretty much ended the negotiations.

[FanRat]

Anyone have info on this lady? https://www.seeking.com/member/4cdc8...f-0a04b40e37c3.

I am meeting her for lunch today and she has repeatedly asked that if we click can we get a room after. She wants to do a hotel the first time but then will come to my place for regular meets after that. I kinda follow the logic that she doesn't want to come to my place until we know we will want to see each other regularly but I also think maybe she knows it will just be a 1 time deal. That may be fine too though.

She texted me a few other pics and she is a very pretty young lady.

Thanks and be safe?

[CandyMan555]

Any one using a TRAC Phone.

Thanks CM.