Safe Sex Information and Advice

[PhilMe 143]

Get ready for crickets.

I've been on Truvada since for ever and I've advised mongers to get on it and I've never had a response.

What is Truvada?

[PeteAppleSeed]

I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?

Get ready for crickets.

I've been on Truvada since for ever and I've advised mongers to get on it and I've never had a response.

[SavannaAtl]

I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?

100% straight gamble. As a multi-year lurker and one party attendee, I personally think you guys are crazy going BB while in the next breath complaining about pros and drug addicts. Esp going home to a wife. My party was covered and I still rushed to my OBGYN for a full panel. This is why uncovered with me will always be a no no. Good luck gentlemen!

[KingSlayer22]

I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?

The girls first off are tested frequently, most of the group is the same way at least the regular ones. Not a perfect system but we haven't had a group incident or you would have heard about it. Not everyone including the girls do bfs at these either. To each their own as about a quarter of the guys do not do bfs at these and some of the girls do not do bfs. Everyone has their line in the sand and we all respect that. There has been accusations about girls before and they got tested with twenty four hours, none has come back where we had to set them out. Its taken very seriously being it can be the kiss of death to these types of events. Hope that answered your question.

[Lono73]

I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?

[MKronos1]

I'm still waiting on my results (chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis minus HSV test). HIV was negative but last girl I saw was 2 days before so I'll get it done again in a couple of weeks. I'll get full blood work done after the holidays. For incubation window purposes. If you want to know who I saw, PM me.

My results finally came in and it's negative. My signs and symptoms disappeared; barely lasting a week.A bit of relief but again, I'll get tested again after the holidays to make sure.

[Maggot Brain]

Newsflash: fucking a prostitute bare, regardless of her ethnic or social background, includes a certain amount of health risk. If you're on this forum, there's a good chance you partake in this risky endeavor, or are contemplating it (if not, why are you here? Specifically, having unprotected sex with women from Korea (or Asia). These aren't skanky street walkers possibly shooting up or servicing men sans prophylactic who do, so I'd reckon the risk those here take is even lower to become infected with the HIV virus. If you don't want to take that risk: DON'T, and go discuss why or the statistics about it etc somewhere else. For those who do: let's get back to the sharing of intel about hot Asian women. Enough of all this shit guys. Hopefully, if you're partaking in BBFS with providers, you've done your own research on possible preventive measures to take or other pertinent things of that nature and aren't using this forum as your source for AIDS info. Thank you.

[Smokey1981]

"The global condom market was valued at 6. 76 billion USA Dollars in 2017, and was projected to increase in value rapidly over the next several years as well. The global condom market was expected to be valued at 11.1 billion USA Dollars by 2023.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...lue-worldwide/

The condom companies are the ones scaring the people to the point that back in the 90's people "punters" were getting hand jobs with a condom on. There was some studies that I can't find the source that Doctors in Europe were saying that HIV was not a Sexual transmitted disease! Of course the condom companies when crazy and shut down those claims.

[Toungsten]

How can I prevent getting HIV from anal or vaginal sex?

Use condoms the right way every time you have sex, take medicines to prevent or treat HIV if appropriate, choose less risky sexual behaviors, get tested for other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), and limit your number of sex partners. The more of these actions you take, the safer you can be.

Specifically, you can:

Use condoms the right way every time you have sex (see How well do condoms prevent HIV? Learn the right way to use a male condom. Reduce your number of sexual partners. This can lower your chances of having a sex partner who will transmit HIV to you. The more partners you have, the more likely you are to have a partner with HIV whose viral load is not suppressed or to have a sex partner with a sexually transmitted disease. Both of these factors can increase the risk of HIV transmission..

As I said the high risk for those who don't use condoms is with needle sharing partners or partners who have had sex with gay or bisexual men. The probability there is quite low. What is the probability of any of.

These Korean girls having sex with gay men. How many hobbyists who spend thousands of dollars are sharing needles in a back alley. Yes, the probability is a lot lower than a fatal accident on the freeway. The CDC will always err on the side of caution. The reality is that no one here has ever heard of a hobbyist contracting HIV from a KG. If it concerns you then wear a condom but that would put you in a different discussion group.

[Jack926]

The panic that HIV caused in the early eighties was blown so out of proportion. That's when unprotected sex became this dangerous thing to be afraid of. The reality is that HIV is rarely spread between heterosexual men and women and more rarely spread from women to men. That's a statistical fact straight from the CDC. The spreading of HIV is primarily from those sharing drug injection equipment. Homosexual men or from men to women. You have much less of a chance of contracting HIV than being hit by a car on the freeway on your way to visit the girls. HIV is no longer a death sentence but a car crash certainly can be. In all my years in the hobby at this level I never heard of one case of HIV being contracted. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened but not on any level comparable to those being killed on the freeways of L. A. Let's keep everything in perspective and not let our imaginations run amok. You would be making yourself safer by keeping your car in the garage than you would by not fucking a hot Korean (or any other nationality) girl.

How can I prevent getting HIV from anal or vaginal sex?

Use condoms the right way every time you have sex, take medicines to prevent or treat HIV if appropriate, choose less risky sexual behaviors, get tested for other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), and limit your number of sex partners. The more of these actions you take, the safer you can be.

Specifically, you can:

Use condoms the right way every time you have sex (see How well do condoms prevent HIV? Learn the right way to use a male condom. Reduce your number of sexual partners. This can lower your chances of having a sex partner who will transmit HIV to you. The more partners you have, the more likely you are to have a partner with HIV whose viral load is not suppressed or to have a sex partner with a sexually transmitted disease. Both of these factors can increase the risk of HIV transmission.

Talk to your doctor about pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), taking HIV medicines daily to prevent HIV infection, if you are at very high risk for HIV. PrEP should be considered if you are HIV-negative and in an ongoing sexual relationship with an HIV-positive partner. PrEP also should be considered if you aren't in a mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who recently tested HIV-negative, and you are a: gay or bisexual man who has had anal sex without a condom or been diagnosed with an STD in the past 6 months;.

Man who has sex with both men and women;.

Or.

Heterosexual man or woman who does not regularly use condoms during sex with partners of unknown HIV status who are at very high risk of HIV infection (for example, people who inject drugs or women who have bisexual male partners).

Post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) means taking HIV medicines after being potentially exposed to HIV to prevent becoming infected. If you're HIV-negative or don't know your HIV status and think you have recently been exposed to HIV during sex (for example, if the condom breaks), talk to your health care provider or an emergency room doctor about PEP right away (within 3 days). The sooner you start PEP, the better; every hour counts. If you're prescribed PEP, you'll need to take it once or twice daily for 28 days. Keep in mind that your chance of getting HIV is lower if your HIV-positive partner is taking medicine to treat HIV infection (called antiretroviral therapy, or ART) as prescribed and his or her viral load stays undetectable (see Does my HIV-positive partner's viral load affect my risk of getting HIV?

If you're HIV-negative and your partner is HIV-positive, encourage your partner to get and stay on treatment. If taken as prescribed, HIV medicine (ART) can make the amount of HIV in the blood (viral load) very low—so low that a test can't detect it (called an undetectable viral load). People with HIV who get and keep an undetectable viral load can stay healthy for many years and have effectively no risk of transmitting HIV to an HIV-negative partner through sex.

Choose less risky sexual behaviors. HIV is mainly spread by having anal or vaginal sex without a condom or without taking medicines to prevent or treat HIV. Receptive anal sex is the riskiest type of sex for getting HIV. It's possible for either partner—the partner inserting the penis in the anus (the top) or the partner receiving the penis (the bottom)—to get HIV, but it is much riskier for an.

HIV-negative partner to be the receptive partner. That's because the lining of the rectum is thin and may allow HIV to enter the body during anal sex.

Vaginal sex also carries a risk for getting HIV, though it is less risky than receptive anal sex. Most women who get HIV get it from vaginal sex, but men can also get HIV from vaginal sex.

In general, there is little to no risk of getting or transmitting HIV from oral sex. Theoretically, transmission of HIV is possible if an HIV-positive man ejaculates in his partner's mouth during oral sex. However, the risk is still very low, and much lower than with anal or vaginal sex. Factors that may increase the risk of transmitting HIV through oral sex are oral ulcers, bleeding gums, genital sores, and the presence of other STDs, which may or may not be visible. See How can I prevent getting HIV from oral sex?

Sexual activities that don't involve contact with body fluids (semen, vaginal fluid, or blood) carry no risk of HIV transmission but may pose a risk for other STDs.

Learn more about how to protect yourself, and get information tailored to meet your needs from CDC's HIV Risk Reduction Tool (BETA).

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pdf/library/...er-sex-101.pdf

Conclusion: NEVER EVER have BARE BACK ANAL-I NEVER DO. Both vaginal BB and Anal BB carry some level of risk but there is more risk in contracting HIV through anal sex. It is a fact and article above is from CDC.

[Jim Thome]

To these girls getting creamed dozens of time each day know that if one of us had HIV, they would probably be infected? And yes I know it's not easy to catch but still.

Are they like "fuck it, I'll take the risk. Money is too good" ? Are they on PREP? Does Korea have such low HIV figures that it's not really seen as a serious concern?

V curious about all this. Because I can somewhat understand fucking for money. But fucking for money WITHOUT protection, and getting paid the same $? Seems like a total kamikaze move.

I think BBFS has been going on for awhile now in korea. I know it's available in select high end tokyo brothels also but generally they only provide that to locals (and its expensive around 700 for 2 hours but they are true young and pretty 21 year olds). The sex industry in tokyo is a sprawling network. Thousands of providers available daily, hundreds of managers, agents, and scouts keeping things moving. I'm pretty sure it's similar in korea. If there were instances of providers getting HIV from a customer I'm sure the story would spread like wildfire and BBFS would instantly be off the menu there. But it hasn't seemed to happen yet. Maybe it will in the future but hasn't yet so it's still on the menu. I think that's how some of the korean providers feel about BBFS in LA and SF in terms of the risk of HIV infection. It's a risk but a seemingly low risk since they actually haven't had to deal with it yet or even heard from yet from anyone they know (knock on wood). And I'm sure the moneys much better than if they only provided CFS.

[QuestBMuffin]

To these girls getting creamed dozens of time each day know that if one of us had HIV, they would probably be infected? And yes I know it's not easy to catch but still.

Are they like "fuck it, I'll take the risk. Money is too good" ? Are they on PREP? Does Korea have such low HIV figures that it's not really seen as a serious concern?

V curious about all this. Because I can somewhat understand fucking for money. But fucking for money WITHOUT protection, and getting paid the same $? Seems like a total kamikaze move.

Chances are extremely small from heterosexual intercourse, and it's no longer a death sentence by any stretch of the imagination. This is not a concern for me at all.

[Toungsten]

To these girls getting creamed dozens of time each day know that if one of us had HIV, they would probably be infected? And yes I know it's not easy to catch but still.

Are they like "fuck it, I'll take the risk. Money is too good" ? Are they on PREP? Does Korea have such low HIV figures that it's not really seen as a serious concern?

V curious about all this. Because I can somewhat understand fucking for money. But fucking for money WITHOUT protection, and getting paid the same $? Seems like a total kamikaze move.

The panic that HIV caused in the early eighties was blown so out of proportion. That's when unprotected sex became this dangerous thing to be afraid of. The reality is that HIV is rarely spread between heterosexual men and women and more rarely spread from women to men. That's a statistical fact straight from the CDC. The spreading of HIV is primarily from those sharing drug injection equipment. Homosexual men or from men to women. You have much less of a chance of contracting HIV than being hit by a car on the freeway on your way to visit the girls. HIV is no longer a death sentence but a car crash certainly can be. In all my years in the hobby at this level I never heard of one case of HIV being contracted. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened but not on any level comparable to those being killed on the freeways of L. A. Let's keep everything in perspective and not let our imaginations run amok. You would be making yourself safer by keeping your car in the garage than you would by not fucking a hot Korean (or any other nationality) girl.

[JoshFrank]

To these girls getting creamed dozens of time each day know that if one of us had HIV, they would probably be infected? And yes I know it's not easy to catch but still.

Are they like "fuck it, I'll take the risk. Money is too good" ? Are they on PREP? Does Korea have such low HIV figures that it's not really seen as a serious concern?

V curious about all this. Because I can somewhat understand fucking for money. But fucking for money WITHOUT protection, and getting paid the same $? Seems like a total kamikaze move.

As long as its not HIV then its all good! Chlamydia can be treated and goes away!

I hope people will speak out as well if there ever was an HIV outbreak.

[KingNoctis]

As long as its not HIV then its all good! Chlamydia can be treated and goes away!

I hope people will speak out as well if there ever was an HIV outbreak.