"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[TomDickNHarry]

Hey all!

I have been on and off SA for a number of years and lately I am having very good luck there. Lots of sexy young ladies looking to pad their purse with their god given looks and talents!

And like some of you I activate my account for a month, meet some ladies and collect info and then let it expire for a couple months. My current membership is about to expire.

But here I keep seeing ads pop up for Secret Benefits. Does anyone have experience there? How do the 2 sites compare?

Thanks and be safe.

Secret Benefits has way less profiles, and make you pay per profile to message. It's like $100 to contact 10. They claim it's higher quality but the one guy I talked to who tried only ended up in even conversations with 2 or 3 out of 10, and never FC'd any. I think the pricing is a rip off but they have no choice b / c with so many less profiles no one would ever pay for more than a month.

Also, there have been reports of fake profiles on there, that SA girls find profiles on the SB site that they didn't put up. Someone stole their pics and info and put it there so you're not even always talking to a real profile.

[ArtImperial]

I do. I'm not married, and my gf and I have an open relationship, so privacy is maybe less important to me than to some men.

But you might not need to. The impression I get is that potential tinder SBs care less about a SD's appearance and more about the allowance and feeling safe. At least as far as the initial contact. "Regular" tinder girls might care about what you look like, tinder SBs care more about other stuff.

Do you use a clear picture of yourself?

[FanRat]

Hey all!

I have been on and off SA for a number of years and lately I am having very good luck there. Lots of sexy young ladies looking to pad their purse with their god given looks and talents!

And like some of you I activate my account for a month, meet some ladies and collect info and then let it expire for a couple months. My current membership is about to expire.

But here I keep seeing ads pop up for Secret Benefits. Does anyone have experience there? How do the 2 sites compare?

Thanks and be safe.

[MineTooTell]

First, thank everyone for the post to my original question.

Wanted to prove information on the SB. We chatted for two days and met the third. When we stared texting she sent nudes without asking for $$. Was straight to the point that she wanted a PPM for sex.

She started at a very high price (350) but I said no and offered 200 for first meeting. She agreed and we met next day. I got a room. Cons- she's heavier that she lets on with her profile and only face pics. Even her nudes she text were taken to not show full body. She says she is curvy not fat. But probably 180+ lbs.

Pros- she's a sex freak! The only thing covered was FS and that probably could have changed but that's what I wanted anyway. DFK, DATY, BBBJCIM. She even asked me to go Greek on her in the middle of the session. Said she likes it rough and nothing is too rough (her words). We were together an hour and I had to get back to work. She was begging me to stay longer so she's not on a clock.

If you are OK with a heavier lady and like a squirter then she's good.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ff829...e-7d3a3a6d22d2

She just told me that she took her profile down. Said her inbox stayed too full and she couldn't keep up with the emails. I can share her kik if you would like PM me.

[RVASpider]

I've had one RVA SB from Tinder, and quite a good one. Of course lots of flakes and fakes and wannabes. Like anywhere, you got to put up with a lot of games before you find a winner.

Do you use a clear picture of yourself?

[ArtImperial]

I've had one RVA SB from Tinder, and quite a good one. Of course lots of flakes and fakes and wannabes. Like anywhere, you got to put up with a lot of games before you find a winner.

I haven't tried Tinder yet. How is it in Richmond? And does anyone have success on there without having a clear profile pic?

[MineTooTell]

First, thank everyone for the post to my original question.

Wanted to prove information on the SB. We chatted for two days and met the third. When we stared texting she sent nudes without asking for $$. Was straight to the point that she wanted a PPM for sex.

She started at a very high price (350) but I said no and offered 200 for first meeting. She agreed and we met next day. I got a room. Cons- she's heavier that she lets on with her profile and only face pics. Even her nudes she text were taken to not show full body. She says she is curvy not fat. But probably 180+ lbs.

Pros- she's a sex freak! The only thing covered was FS and that probably could have changed but that's what I wanted anyway. DFK, DATY, BBBJCIM. She even asked me to go Greek on her in the middle of the session. Said she likes it rough and nothing is too rough (her words). We were together an hour and I had to get back to work. She was begging me to stay longer so she's not on a clock.

If you are OK with a heavier lady and like a squirter then she's good.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ff829...e-7d3a3a6d22d2

[RVASpider]

I feel your pain. I usually grab a membership on SA once every six months and rack up as many SB's I can to last me for 3-4 months, usually finding 1-2 that'll atleast keep me going for a year. Lately, I've moved to Tinder and have been having a great run, I've also started aiming at finding gems in real life as I've discussed before. Part of this whole Seeking / SB game is the chase and finding a really sweet gem that pays off at a value.

Also, those feet pic sellers / etc on all these apps aren't anything new but those provide gateways into the SB / Sex worker world for us. I can't tell you how many women I know that started off with an "Onlyfans" page is now on Seeking or willing to fuck for cash.

I haven't tried Tinder yet. How is it in Richmond? And does anyone have success on there without having a clear profile pic?

[BookerTNelson]

How can you find anything anymore from just a phone number? You use to be able to see FB profiles that way but that was years ago.

You can do the pay sites but I don't want to spend the $, plus the majority of SBs use texting apps so no dice.

Let me know if you've cracked the code.

Even when I find out there real name, it can be hard to find there FB or IG.

If they have a common first & last name there can be too many profiles to find them.

Or they have a cute nickname instead of there real name.

I regularly find Real names (or parents real names and then use deductive reasoning), Social media sites, etc. No pay sites, just good ol' research all from their Cell Number. True people search is one resource, along with a few apps.

[DoggieFan]

I always move to text quickly because I want to look up their number and pic to see if they're real. It also cuts down on ghosting and blocking.

How can you find anything anymore from just a phone number? You use to be able to see FB profiles that way but that was years ago.

You can do the pay sites but I don't want to spend the $, plus the majority of SBs use texting apps so no dice.

Let me know if you've cracked the code.

Even when I find out there real name, it can be hard to find there FB or IG.

If they have a common first & last name there can be too many profiles to find them.

Or they have a cute nickname instead of there real name.

[TechSticles]

Doubtful. LE probably spends time on SA looking for underage / runaway girls or known violent offenders, but if you think about the amount of work we go thru just to get a phone number then it would be a tremendously tall order for LE to run any real sting operations via seeking that would justify the total costs.

Sting ops are scheduled but they all run the script of posting an ad and getting a john in the room. They don't care if you never talk 'sex' or money, they don't care if you can reasonably beat the charge, they only care that you answered an ad on a site known for providing prostitution.

And that they arrested you along with x number of mongers. Many of the guys arrested are repeat offenders, guys with warrants, etc. So it acts as a sweeping operation as well. We know that lots of guys will buckle and try to plea out before even getting processed by the magistrate. If you take all your precautions and ride the line of what is permissible / undeniable, you still have to get a lawyer, have your name / pic posted, and the judge will see thru your bullshit excuses.

Sting ops don't explicitly target millionaires for obvious political reasons as well. Sting ops go to where they can maximize their time, the places where pussy for $60 QVs will have the phones constantly going off. Not that they won't bag and tag a wealthy monger that is dipping his beak in a hood rat hotel, but the ramifications and challenges of 'proudly' bringing in 20 well-to-do mongers after a 5 day sting op compared to bringing in 20 nobodys from the hood of whom some have rap sheets or warrants.

Which would ultimately cause grief for any the office.

Case in point, imagine a sting where 20 Robert Kraft's were arrested. You would end up with 20 dismissed cases and 0 convictions and instability in the local body politic.

This. LE is lazy, they aren't going to go through the trouble of SA to nab a few johns when they can do a fraction of the work with standard prostitution stings and come out with stronger cases and more explicit evidence. It costs money to run stings, and they need a fast return on their investment.

I don't think we should completely delude ourselves. For instance this link is a forum for police officers. This thread is from around 2016 but the advice still holds true, maybe even moreso.

Backpage stings - Police Forums & Law Enforcement Forums @ Officer.com

One officer is asking advice about busting escorts in his city. It seems to just BUG the fuck out of him and his fellow cops that hookers post online, and he wants tips on how to shut this awful shit down! So brother officers offered advice on how to get more funding, etc:

"We always bring an HSI SA on our ops and they've actually footed the bill the last two we ran."

Another officer endorsed that:

"This. Go for the federal human trafficking angle if your DA won't play ball."

These stings were aimed at busting clients and workers, thinly veiled as anti-trafficking. So depending on how far they want to go, cops DO do have time to sit around and text / message extended periods and, they are willing to chat you up on phone, and yeah, they DO have the funds to meet you at a motel.

Personally, I like flipping through that forum. Gives some great insight into the minds of cops.

[ItsAHobby45]

This. LE is lazy, they aren't going to go through the trouble of SA to nab a few johns when they can do a fraction of the work with standard prostitution stings and come out with stronger cases and more explicit evidence. It costs money to run stings, and they need a fast return on their investment.

This. I've talked to many hundreds of girls from seeking and never once have I got a LEO vibe from any of them. Not saying there hasn't been stings ran by LE on Seeking but I think it's rare and not something we should worry about as long as 17 and under is your thing.

[DWinthrop]

Doubtful. LE probably spends time on SA looking for underage / runaway girls or known violent offenders, but if you think about the amount of work we go thru just to get a phone number then it would be a tremendously tall order for LE to run any real sting operations via seeking that would justify the total costs.

Sting ops are scheduled but they all run the script of posting an ad and getting a john in the room. They don't care if you never talk 'sex' or money, they don't care if you can reasonably beat the charge, they only care that you answered an ad on a site known for providing prostitution.

And that they arrested you along with x number of mongers. Many of the guys arrested are repeat offenders, guys with warrants, etc. So it acts as a sweeping operation as well. We know that lots of guys will buckle and try to plea out before even getting processed by the magistrate. If you take all your precautions and ride the line of what is permissible / undeniable, you still have to get a lawyer, have your name / pic posted, and the judge will see thru your bullshit excuses.

This. LE is lazy, they aren't going to go through the trouble of SA to nab a few johns when they can do a fraction of the work with standard prostitution stings and come out with stronger cases and more explicit evidence. It costs money to run stings, and they need a fast return on their investment.

[BookerTNelson]

It amazes me how the landscape of SA has changed in just the past month or two. Its went from relatively easy to find a genuine 18-22 thin low mileage sb that was open to intimacy to absolutely nothing now. 100% of the girls I talk to now are "too busy with school to meet in person" but "want someone to spoil me in exchange for my companionship via text or phone calls". Even the pic / vid sellers are few and far between. To me it's made the site not even worth the $90/ month. My membership expires in a few days and I'm going to let it go. If I wanted a girl to give my money to and get nothing physical in return I'd just get married.

With that being said, if you're target is 25 and up there are still some options on the site. For me a big part of the thrill is knowing the girl I'm with is a genuine college student that really needs / wants the money and not someone that's just made bad choices in life and is desperate for money to keep the electricity on.

The sad part is I don't think this trend is going to blow over anytime soon. The TikToc app that was discussed in previous posts is full of this nonsense findom and feet pic sellers. There are tons female users (16 ish- early 20's) posting their Venmo and Cashapp transactions showing numerous incoming deposits from this crap. Hundreds of dollars a day from guys paying $20-50 for feet pictures. With guys like that out there we don't have a chance on Seeking.

I feel your pain. I usually grab a membership on SA once every six months and rack up as many SB's I can to last me for 3-4 months, usually finding 1-2 that'll atleast keep me going for a year. Lately, I've moved to Tinder and have been having a great run, I've also started aiming at finding gems in real life as I've discussed before. Part of this whole Seeking / SB game is the chase and finding a really sweet gem that pays off at a value.

Also, those feet pic sellers / etc on all these apps aren't anything new but those provide gateways into the SB / Sex worker world for us. I can't tell you how many women I know that started off with an "Onlyfans" page is now on Seeking or willing to fuck for cash.

[ChrisCarr]

Yes, there's just as much law enforcement on SA than any other site where women want money for pussy.

Doubtful. LE probably spends time on SA looking for underage / runaway girls or known violent offenders, but if you think about the amount of work we go thru just to get a phone number then it would be a tremendously tall order for LE to run any real sting operations via seeking that would justify the total costs.

Sting ops are scheduled but they all run the script of posting an ad and getting a john in the room. They don't care if you never talk 'sex' or money, they don't care if you can reasonably beat the charge, they only care that you answered an ad on a site known for providing prostitution.

And that they arrested you along with x number of mongers. Many of the guys arrested are repeat offenders, guys with warrants, etc. So it acts as a sweeping operation as well. We know that lots of guys will buckle and try to plea out before even getting processed by the magistrate. If you take all your precautions and ride the line of what is permissible / undeniable, you still have to get a lawyer, have your name / pic posted, and the judge will see thru your bullshit excuses.

Sting ops don't explicitly target millionaires for obvious political reasons as well. Sting ops go to where they can maximize their time, the places where pussy for $60 QVs will have the phones constantly going off. Not that they won't bag and tag a wealthy monger that is dipping his beak in a hood rat hotel, but the ramifications and challenges of 'proudly' bringing in 20 well-to-do mongers after a 5 day sting op compared to bringing in 20 nobodys from the hood of whom some have rap sheets or warrants.

Which would ultimately cause grief for any the office.

Case in point, imagine a sting where 20 Robert Kraft's were arrested. You would end up with 20 dismissed cases and 0 convictions and instability in the local body politic.