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  1. #9001

    Rates

    One other thing I forgot to mention. A while back when another rate discussion came up someone said there is no way the providers colluded about raising rates & these girls don't talk to their competitors. I heard from 3 different providers about 9 months. Year ago they were contacted by another provider (competitor) asking them to raise their rates.

  2. #9000

    Rates

    It is hard to put a specific price on things, because providers really have different values. That being said I think $80 for a door fee is too much. Even in a bigger city like Chicago I haven't seen over $70 hr for door fees. However, if they can get $80 and don't see a drop in business they will keep doing it. Really we set the market.

    If a girl can get away with charging $180 for services that used to be $100-120 she will. I had one who wanted $160 tip (so it would have been $220 total) for nude HE. I laughed at that one & took a pass. She said she gets that much a lot. She was about a 3/10 so I found that shocking. Point being I understand everyone has different values of money based on their income, but it sets an expectation for her of what she can get away with charging. I get that some can drop $200-300 without a second thought, but it doesn't help those who are looking for some bang for their buck.

    Personally $150 + even if that's tip included is too much. These girls aren't doctors or lawyers. They are asking between $200-300 an hour if you account for what that wage would be before taxes.

    Also this 45 minute session thing I see now is bull shit as far as I'm concerned. $150 for 45 minutes = $200 hr, that's crazy. Unless you're getting more than a nude HE.

    Again just my opinion, but I have seen a provider who charges high rates & has tons of business. I can get the same services from other equally skilled & equally looking providers for $60-80 less for an hour.

    I am not weighing factors of convenience (distance, responsiveness, etc) in that. Hell robert kraft only tipped a hundo & he's a billionaire.

  3. #8999

    Riley

    I know there have been reports of Riley many times so actually there isn't much new to say. She's an excellent provider of many talents so don't be shy to give her a visit if you haven't already. She has a great massage table with a full length heating pad, gives a ligetament massage, gets full nude, allows roaming and creates a relaxing atmosphere. Much more on the menu if you simply ask. I'd provide a review of somebody else but honestly I haven't been anywhere else since in my opinion she's the best bang for my buck no questions about it. Stay safe out there fellas. I know I am when sticking with Riley.

    http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classi...721&cityid=222

  4. #8998

    Mongering Outside the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Choose  [View Original Post]
    I've read similar comments but without explanation. Would you tell us how it's different?
    I also have mongered in the UK, where brothels are legal. You will find a number of girls to choose from, typically 4-6. The girls are very beautiful and dressed in appealing lingerie and high heels. Most of them are from Eastern Europe, but some are also English. In my little experience there, I did not see any evidence of drug use. The charge was £85 or $105.00 for 45 min and £120 or $150 for 1 hr. They are very pleasant with the goal to please you and will not short you on time. It really makes the experience here very challenging, with all the upselling and poor attitude. But I guess there is not much to do since that is all we have, unless you don't want to monger at all.

  5. #8997
    I mongered in eastern europe. Girls are drop dead gorgeous, all wear high heels and none I met were addicts. I had a beautiful 20 year old blue eyed blond for the whole night for 120 US For example. Great attitude, loved to fuck. Act like pleasing a man is their reason to be on earth. When I landed back in the states I found noone here attractive for a long while after.

    Quote Originally Posted by Choose  [View Original Post]
    I've read similar comments but without explanation. Would you tell us how it's different?

  6. #8996

    Mongering outside USA

    Quote Originally Posted by NoseJelly  [View Original Post]
    For example, in Central America, the women are gorgeous (a 7 is a Michigan 12), 100 USD gets 2-3 hours and 2 pops, a great attitude and no hard drugs. The Hobby is Legal and the weather is fabulous! In Costa Rica the MPs, called Pensiones, have 4 - 10 chicas on duty to choose from. Prices are 20-40 for a half hour, 30-80 for an hour. That gets you a massage, BJ and cfs!
    Wow! That does sound nice. Maybe it's a good thing it's not that way 'round these parts. I'd end up in trouble for sure with all that temptation. Thanks for info. Now, I too am bummed. .

  7. #8995

    Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by NoseJelly  [View Original Post]
    For example, in Central America, the women are gorgeous (a 7 is a Michigan 12), 100 USD gets 2-3 hours and 2 pops, a great attitude and no hard drugs. The Hobby is Legal and the weather is fabulous! In Costa Rica the MPs, called Pensiones, have 4 - 10 chicas on duty to choose from. Prices are 20-40 for a half hour, 30-80 for an hour. That gets you a massage, BJ and cfs!
    If this is all true I want to live in Central America.

  8. #8994
    Quote Originally Posted by Choose  [View Original Post]
    I've read similar comments but without explanation. Would you tell us how it's different?
    For example, in Central America, the women are gorgeous (a 7 is a Michigan 12), 100 USD gets 2-3 hours and 2 pops, a great attitude and no hard drugs. The Hobby is Legal and the weather is fabulous! In Costa Rica the MPs, called Pensiones, have 4 - 10 chicas on duty to choose from. Prices are 20-40 for a half hour, 30-80 for an hour. That gets you a massage, BJ and cfs!

  9. #8993

    Sweetcheeks

    Recently had another great session with Julia / Sweetcheeks. Nice accommodations with music / waves playing in the background. Good personality, and after the flip the girls came out; like it when I don't have to ask / beg for this! Also enjoyed not only a good MS, but a good dose of expert teasing (even before the flip); not that common where one can get both a quality MS and quality teasing. Full hour. She does a lot of things right.

  10. #8992

    Monger outside USA

    Quote Originally Posted by NoseJelly  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes I curse the day I first Mongered outside of the USA. But, most of the time, I just smile and let the happy memories float around me.
    I've read similar comments but without explanation. Would you tell us how it's different?

  11. #8991

    USA Providers

    Sometimes I curse the day I first Mongered outside of the USA. But, most of the time, I just smile and let the happy memories float around me.

  12. #8990
    The proper rate is what the market bears. You cannot compare overseas or even a different part of the US to grand Rapids. Everything from milk to gas to HEs will vary by location.

    If you want to compare within-market rates, that's more appropriate. But even then there should be an allowance for budget and taste. Perhaps I can get full service cheaper. But perhaps a less-than-full-service provider checks more boxes (looks, location safety, kink friendly etc.) I might overpay for latter.

    180 may be a bit much. But if the performance was great, set up was easy, felt safe, and could lead to long term connection with better rate? That might be worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    I have mongered overseas as well and it's been hard enough to settle for the Trashy overweight looks and low service compared to what we pay for in the US for escorts. I've been on a long long break from spas due to the constant overpricing I am quoted simply to go topless. The last girl I saw was at Pacific and she explained that once BP went down the demand at the Spas went way up and that's why everyone is suddenly asking for so high prices. And apparently there's a lot of stupid guys out there that are willing to pay 180 for a topless massage and HE. As others Below have pointed out, you can get full service for an hour from an escort for Less then what these girls are asking for for a topless handjob. At the end of the day it's your money so you can pay what you want but there is no way I'm paying those crazy prices for a handjob. My parlor boycott continues.

  13. #8989
    My apologies. I wasn't directing that at you personally. Just chiming in on the rate debate in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonglow913  [View Original Post]
    Hopefully I was not just called "stupid"? I have been in the hobby for 30 years and have experienced just about all it has to offer. Here and else where. My post was more of just a question. I haven't been to a MP for a while and no where in GR for over a year. I was just wondering if what I paid is now the going rate. The session was excellent, babe was hot, got nude right off the bat and allowed full roaming (FIV) and hinted at more for the right price. I was OK with everything and realize some places (like Serenity) are going to charge more. Just wondering if this was the new normal. Please don't get into rate debate or where you have been or how great you are at negotiating these ladies down or what you won't pay. Was $150 - 180 the going rate at Serenity?

  14. #8988

    Not to continue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    I have mongered overseas as well and it's been hard enough to settle for the Trashy overweight looks and low service compared to what we pay for in the US for escorts. I've been on a long long break from spas due to the constant overpricing I am quoted simply to go topless. The last girl I saw was at Pacific and she explained that once BP went down the demand at the Spas went way up and that's why everyone is suddenly asking for so high prices. And apparently there's a lot of stupid guys out there that are willing to pay 180 for a topless massage and HE. As others Below have pointed out, you can get full service for an hour from an escort for Less then what these girls are asking for for a topless handjob. At the end of the day it's your money so you can pay what you want but there is no way I'm paying those crazy prices for a handjob. My parlor boycott continues.
    Hopefully I was not just called "stupid"? I have been in the hobby for 30 years and have experienced just about all it has to offer. Here and else where. My post was more of just a question. I haven't been to a MP for a while and no where in GR for over a year. I was just wondering if what I paid is now the going rate. The session was excellent, babe was hot, got nude right off the bat and allowed full roaming (FIV) and hinted at more for the right price. I was OK with everything and realize some places (like Serenity) are going to charge more. Just wondering if this was the new normal. Please don't get into rate debate or where you have been or how great you are at negotiating these ladies down or what you won't pay. Was $150 - 180 the going rate at Serenity?

  15. #8987
    I have mongered overseas as well and it's been hard enough to settle for the Trashy overweight looks and low service compared to what we pay for in the US for escorts. I've been on a long long break from spas due to the constant overpricing I am quoted simply to go topless. The last girl I saw was at Pacific and she explained that once BP went down the demand at the Spas went way up and that's why everyone is suddenly asking for so high prices. And apparently there's a lot of stupid guys out there that are willing to pay 180 for a topless massage and HE. As others Below have pointed out, you can get full service for an hour from an escort for Less then what these girls are asking for for a topless handjob. At the end of the day it's your money so you can pay what you want but there is no way I'm paying those crazy prices for a handjob. My parlor boycott continues.

    Quote Originally Posted by GMacMan  [View Original Post]
    Well said and with fewer words! I think those of us that travel have a much different (and shared?) perspective on the local action.

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