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  1. #2025
    Quote Originally Posted by Tnt69  [View Original Post]
    You have to be severely damaged? I figure the aspect of "love making" is connected to one's heart, pouring the passionate side of it into the emotional round. And on the flip. AMP pun, there is just straight fucking. Get down get each other off purely physical just sex fucking. No strings, emotions, and preferably no infections connected.

    No, I know plenty of "perfectly normal" type ladies, work nine to five, Monday through Friday, wait for the big party on the weekend at the club in Philly, or private house party, and they go and fuck like some fifty guys. Not for cash, not for a living, and not because they are emotionally dead. Because they are sluts and love sex.

    I've met a few working girls that are the same. It's what they are good at. No drugs, no booze. Some of them straight up vegetarian, straight edge, work out all day, and still just want sex.

    I find even though you commonly see a trend of damaged, drug using trauma victims selling their bodies for their next fix, it's a bad example of the prerequisites needed to be a sex worker.

    I'm a ****, been with many, many woman, maybe one fifth working girls from years ago. I'm not falling in love nor emotionally dead.

    I think the pro shrinks would call me insane. By the book we are all technically in the wrong my normal social standards. But to some women having multiple partners or a good sugar daddy has empowered them for greater things. That's how some ladies describe it to me. Grain of salt next to my two cents.

    I'm not an old gator, just enjoy reading his posts.
    You are likely some psychopath, and I mean that with respect.

  2. #2024

    Location?

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadRooster  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    I had contacted Beth to see if she would do outcall to my CC hotel where I stay frequently, and she was happy to cum (http://philadelphia.skipthegames.com...y/843470734269).

    Her attitude is awesome, and she kept me informed the whole way into the city.

    She arrived dressed plain which is cool as to not attract unwanted attention. Got to my room, talked very briefly then she started to undress and the fun began. She has a nice body, I personally would have appreciated a shower right before coming, and I'm not saying she is dirty by any stretch, just not freshly showered. Then again, I could have offered for her to use my shower but it was getting late for me.

    None the less, we had a great time & she gives awesome head, and is up for any position you want. The best thing is her attitude, and price = 1.5 for out in the city. Can't beat that combo. Will repeat as.

    Rooster.
    You mentioned her traveling into the city. Is she out in the 'burbs somewhere? Covered or BB?

  3. #2023
    Quote Originally Posted by Tnt69  [View Original Post]

    I'm not an old gator, just enjoy reading his posts.
    And I've enjoyed reading this post. You make some cogent points.

    LD.

  4. #2022

    Beth. Outcall in center city

    Hello,

    I had contacted Beth to see if she would do outcall to my CC hotel where I stay frequently, and she was happy to cum (http://philadelphia.skipthegames.com...y/843470734269).

    Her attitude is awesome, and she kept me informed the whole way into the city.

    She arrived dressed plain which is cool as to not attract unwanted attention. Got to my room, talked very briefly then she started to undress and the fun began. She has a nice body, I personally would have appreciated a shower right before coming, and I'm not saying she is dirty by any stretch, just not freshly showered. Then again, I could have offered for her to use my shower but it was getting late for me.

    None the less, we had a great time & she gives awesome head, and is up for any position you want. The best thing is her attitude, and price = 1.5 for out in the city. Can't beat that combo. Will repeat as.

    Rooster.

  5. #2021
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    Posts: 116

    Stone cold or sex feind

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPredictable  [View Original Post]
    There's a whole evolutionary psychology to sex. You have to be a severely damaged person with a cold heart and next to no emotions to be a prostitute. If there are emotions then it's likely the person is reenacting some kind of trauma while being a prostitute which confirms bias they have against themselves.

    A person like that isn't going to be planning logically. It's the same as ghetto guys selling drugs, they fuck it up somehow because that's what they're really about.
    You have to be severely damaged? I figure the aspect of "love making" is connected to one's heart, pouring the passionate side of it into the emotional round. And on the flip. AMP pun, there is just straight fucking. Get down get each other off purely physical just sex fucking. No strings, emotions, and preferably no infections connected.

    No, I know plenty of "perfectly normal" type ladies, work nine to five, Monday through Friday, wait for the big party on the weekend at the club in Philly, or private house party, and they go and fuck like some fifty guys. Not for cash, not for a living, and not because they are emotionally dead. Because they are sluts and love sex.

    I've met a few working girls that are the same. It's what they are good at. No drugs, no booze. Some of them straight up vegetarian, straight edge, work out all day, and still just want sex.

    I find even though you commonly see a trend of damaged, drug using trauma victims selling their bodies for their next fix, it's a bad example of the prerequisites needed to be a sex worker.

    I'm a ****, been with many, many woman, maybe one fifth working girls from years ago. I'm not falling in love nor emotionally dead.

    I think the pro shrinks would call me insane. By the book we are all technically in the wrong my normal social standards. But to some women having multiple partners or a good sugar daddy has empowered them for greater things. That's how some ladies describe it to me. Grain of salt next to my two cents.

    I'm not an old gator, just enjoy reading his posts.

  6. #2020

    You're missing some things.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlipSide67  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is not an escort report, but it is a burning question about escorts I hope one of the more knowledgeable members can answer.

    I keep thinking that a decent looking girl, who stays away from drugs, can live a very comfortable upper middle class life by working as an escort.

    If she charges $300 an hour and sees 3 clients a day that means she earns $900 a day.

    Say she only works 5 days a week. That means her haul is $4,500 a week for only 15 hours of work. Not Bad!
    Your really describing the very top of the scale without considering costs and overhead.

    She needs a place to work. Hotels are expensive. You're not charging $300/ hr and working out of a cheap motel. Apartments can have neighbors that question what is happening with all these strange men coming and going. It is very risky to work from your home. Considering how much they are making it still is a factor trying to find the right place.

    She isn't just working 15 hours a week. Most likely she is waiting around and she needs to be available for at least 10-12 hours a day. While not physically working she is not, not working. Assume a 10 to 10 availability. She will also be eating her meals at restaurants not cheap.

    You have to calculate Aunt Flow into the equation for 4 days a month. I didn't include any healthcare expenses into this like insurance.

    Mentally they aren't working a 50 week year 5 days a week, that rarely happens. Most likely 14 days a month on average. It isn't always easy to just find 3 customers a day especially at $300/ hr unless you're really smoking hot. There is a very real trade off between getting 1 $300 customer a day vs. 4 to 6 at $150.

    Then there are the review boards. A few bad reviews or a bad customer who threatens an extremely bad review if he doesn't get BBFS or BBG. This can jack up their business big time. It can take a few years to develop a solid customer base. Even then it is a rare guy that can cough up $300 more than once a month. In your example she would need a customer base of about 100 to 200+ steady customers and most new customers are always on the prowl for some new strange. Sure there a some sugar daddies who book 2 and 3 hr sessions. Oh yea, BTW it isn't exactly legal.

    A $300+/ hr lady needs a very fun personality and dealing with some strange guys and their strange requests.

    Then you have holidays, heat waves, snow storms, cold snaps. Travel days alone that aren't paying bills.

    So let's say she charges $200/ hr as an indy and travels between Philly, NYC and DC. Sees 4 customers a day for 14 days a month. That is about $11,000. She has her own apartment, food, utils and drive a reasonable car $2500/ month. Renting a hotel, travel expenses and getting meals $200/ day. $2,400 / month. So about $5,000 month in expenses alone. She is netting about $6,000 tax free a month not bad or $72,000 tax free or over a $100,000+ salary if your getting taxed. A few bad or sub-par months with a few bad reviews that doesn't reduce her fixed expenses.

    Sure an extremely hot young lady can charge $400/ hr but even then her expenses for hotels and travel go up as well. Then you have agencies that take a solid 1/2 or 1/3 of the fee.

    Look your point solid but they aren't living in Main Line mansions. The really professional ones who have their crap together can do much better. Let's keep it real, most of these are cute single mothers. So you have the expense of childcare.

    Then there are the guys showing up with an 8 ball of coke and 2 bottles of booze. Sure he books a 3 hour appointment but she is shot for the next day.

  7. #2019
    Quote Originally Posted by JTerry26  [View Original Post]
    I came across this ad:

    http://philadelphia.skipthegames.com...a/745500129952

    Reached out to the number. Responded, gave me another number so I assume that means there's a handler. Text the second one and get hotel address and prices.

    I google the second number and the same number pops up with same / similar pics in a couple of different cities. All are Mid- Atlantic to Boston. None appear to be on the same date.

    Should my spidey sense be going off? Or is this just likely a group of women getting moved around every few weeks or so?
    Hey Terry. Have you used Tin Eye? It's a free app on- line that will allow you to upload a photo to see if it's ever been posted on line before and in what context. Looking at these photos, I am almost 100% certain that these are the stock Asían girl photos that many AMPs use to entice people in.

    LD.

  8. #2018
    Quote Originally Posted by FlipSide67  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is not an escort report, but it is a burning question about escorts I hope one of the more knowledgeable members can answer.

    I keep thinking that a decent looking girl, who stays away from drugs, can live a very comfortable upper middle class life by working as an escort.

    If she charges $300 an hour and sees 3 clients a day that means she earns $900 a day.

    Say she only works 5 days a week. That means her haul is $4,500 a week for only 15 hours of work. Not Bad!

    And if does this 50 weeks out of the year, she will be earning a sweet $225,000. An amazing income for a girl who may have dropped out of high school.

    Am I missing something here? Why aren't all the decent looking drug free independent escorts living in big homes on the Main Line?
    Who says they aren't on the Main Line?

    For starters, successful escorts can't go around like successful female real estate agents can and boast about how successful they are and give seminars because escorting is a taboo business. There are most definitely successful drug free escorts but if they're wise they're going to stay low profile and even lie about their real profession.

    Yes, there are a few escorts who openly claim that they are / were successful, and write books and such, but I would argue that those type of women are looking to exit the business because either they're ageing out or they wish to form another stream of income that is more legitimate.

    That said, I would argue that the amount of escorts who are drug free and financially successful are very very slim because most women don't even think of being with random strangers for any kind money.

  9. #2017
    Quote Originally Posted by FlipSide67  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is not an escort report, but it is a burning question about escorts I hope one of the more knowledgeable members can answer.

    I keep thinking that a decent looking girl, who stays away from drugs, can live a very comfortable upper middle class life by working as an escort.

    If she charges $300 an hour and sees 3 clients a day that means she earns $900 a day.

    Say she only works 5 days a week. That means her haul is $4,500 a week for only 15 hours of work. Not Bad!

    And if does this 50 weeks out of the year, she will be earning a sweet $225,000. An amazing income for a girl who may have dropped out of high school.

    Am I missing something here? Why aren't all the decent looking drug free independent escorts living in big homes on the Main Line?
    There's a whole evolutionary psychology to sex. You have to be a severely damaged person with a cold heart and next to no emotions to be a prostitute. If there are emotions then it's likely the person is reenacting some kind of trauma while being a prostitute which confirms bias they have against themselves.

    A person like that isn't going to be planning logically. It's the same as ghetto guys selling drugs, they fuck it up somehow because that's what they're really about.

  10. #2016

    Work is work

    I bet in the 15th month of getting fucked 3 x / day, 5 days per week gets to be a bit of a drag. Just guessing.

  11. #2015
    Quote Originally Posted by FlipSide67  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is not an escort report, but it is a burning question about escorts I hope one of the more knowledgeable members can answer.

    I keep thinking that a decent looking girl, who stays away from drugs, can live a very comfortable upper middle class life by working as an escort.

    If she charges $300 an hour and sees 3 clients a day that means she earns $900 a day.

    Say she only works 5 days a week. That means her haul is $4,500 a week for only 15 hours of work. Not Bad!

    And if does this 50 weeks out of the year, she will be earning a sweet $225,000. An amazing income for a girl who may have dropped out of high school.

    Am I missing something here? Why aren't all the decent looking drug free independent escorts living in big homes on the Main Line?
    This is all my opinion of course but:

    First of all, you're forgetting some things. Sure, she may take in $900 a day but from that you have to subtract food, clothing, hair, make-up, condoms, travel expenses (car, cab, whatever) if she does outcall or hotel fees if she does incall at hotels, then if she has a separate apartment there's rent too (or maybe a mortgage on a house) and miscellaneous expenses like cigarettes if she smokes, and other things (cell phones, money spent on ads, gym fees to maintain her figure, health insurance, etc.). So that $4500 per week is probably closer to $2 K per week or less. Let's go with the higher amount.

    3-5 days a month she probably cannot see clients (or probably shouldn't anyway) so let's say she's taking in about $7 K per month or $84 K per year. That's a lot of cash.

    So someone who has that kind of income probably wants to avoid being seen as rich and drawing the eye of the IRS (state and federal) so she'd have to pay taxes on that to avoid jail from not paying taxes (that's how they got Capone, remember). And she probably has a lawyer, and an accountant around to help her with dealing with cops if she's arrested, the tax man if he comes calling, etc. And probably doctor's visits too. So, that probably drops her down to about $60 K a year. Still not shabby.

    Now you have to ask yourself: why did she become an escort in the first place? I'd say 80% of the women who do it, do so because they are addicted to drugs or alcohol but you said no drugs (and I'm presuming no alcohol either) so why would she become an escort rather than an "honest" job. Well, the other 20% of the women who do it (and a large portion of that 80% too I'll bet) probably has a child to support. Or two. And children are expensive. The estimated average cost to raise a child in the USA Is about $15 K per year (more in areas like New York or Los Angeles). So, now we're down to about $45 K.

    I'm probably forgetting a lot here, and probably even underestimating the costs someone working as a high class escort spends on things like clothing and make-up. But you can see how what looked like an income of $225,000 drops down really, really, fast when you figure in all the expenses that go into maintaining herself.

    The reality is that the high class escorts who are not on drugs, are attractive and earning that kind of money are very few and far between (if they exist at all) because most of the escorts do drugs or drink a lot of alcohol. They have to in order to have sex with us guys on a regular basis.

  12. #2014

    Excellent question, perhaps post under" user blog"

    Quote Originally Posted by FlipSide67  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is not an escort report, but it is a burning question about escorts I hope one of the more knowledgeable members can answer.

    I keep thinking that a decent looking girl, who stays away from drugs, can live a very comfortable upper middle class life by working as an escort.

    If she charges $300 an hour and sees 3 clients a day that means she earns $900 a day.

    Say she only works 5 days a week. That means her haul is $4,500 a week for only 15 hours of work. Not Bad!

    And if does this 50 weeks out of the year, she will be earning a sweet $225,000. An amazing income for a girl who may have dropped out of high school.

    Am I missing something here? Why aren't all the decent looking drug free independent escorts living in big homes on the Main Line?
    I think that's a great question, one I myself have often contemplated.

    I would love to hear opinions and facts on this. Maybe, in order not to "clog up" the "reports" section, you could post it in the user blog"part of the forum.

    I can only "assume" that, in order to get regular dates, (3 a day) you'd have to have regular clients. That takes time to build up and I think, by that time, the girl (s) have "outworked" an area. So, in order to gain more, you'd have to travel, with travel, expenses rise, and the risk also becomes greater, PLUS, your not known, so, kind of like starting over.

    I know I myself have tried on two separate occasions to "help" two different girls that I'm friendly with and have had little to NO success. (Although be it through "lesser channels" and with smaller numbers. But still, not really easy for either side of this damn hobby.

  13. #2013
    Regular Member


    Posts: 24
    Quote Originally Posted by FlipSide67  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if this is not an escort report, but it is a burning question about escorts I hope one of the more knowledgeable members can answer.

    I keep thinking that a decent looking girl, who stays away from drugs, can live a very comfortable upper middle class life by working as an escort.

    If she charges $300 an hour and sees 3 clients a day that means she earns $900 a day.

    Say she only works 5 days a week. That means her haul is $4,500 a week for only 15 hours of work. Not Bad!

    And if does this 50 weeks out of the year, she will be earning a sweet $225,000. An amazing income for a girl who may have dropped out of high school.

    Am I missing something here? Why aren't all the decent looking drug free independent escorts living in big homes on the Main Line?
    First the higher class ones are going to work out ofnan hotel. Second where they at? Eros, tna, and other agencies.

    For the most part they are not on stg, qnd other aggregator type of sites.

    So have fun.

  14. #2012

    Where are all the Rich Escorts?

    Sorry if this is not an escort report, but it is a burning question about escorts I hope one of the more knowledgeable members can answer.

    I keep thinking that a decent looking girl, who stays away from drugs, can live a very comfortable upper middle class life by working as an escort.

    If she charges $300 an hour and sees 3 clients a day that means she earns $900 a day.

    Say she only works 5 days a week. That means her haul is $4,500 a week for only 15 hours of work. Not Bad!

    And if does this 50 weeks out of the year, she will be earning a sweet $225,000. An amazing income for a girl who may have dropped out of high school.

    Am I missing something here? Why aren't all the decent looking drug free independent escorts living in big homes on the Main Line?

  15. #2011

    Toftt

    Quote Originally Posted by JTerry26  [View Original Post]
    I came across this ad:

    http://philadelphia.skipthegames.com...a/745500129952

    Reached out to the number. Responded, gave me another number so I assume that means there's a handler. Text the second one and get hotel address and prices.

    I google the second number and the same number pops up with same / similar pics in a couple of different cities. All are Mid- Atlantic to Boston. None appear to be on the same date.

    Should my spidey sense be going off? Or is this just likely a group of women getting moved around every few weeks or so?
    Just saw her. If it's her in the pics it was definitely a few years ago. She's maybe 35-40. Really nice big naturals, curvy with a nice ass. Cute MILF. Clean, safe hotel in KoP.

    CBJ and CFS after so light touch. Cowboy-Mish-Doggie-Mish. Only drawback was ok doggie she wouldn't go head down (which I prefer) b / c she said "too hard". Heh. Exactly. Anyway, worthwhile. Might repeat. Said she's here for another week. 1. 3 hhr.

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