"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

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https://www.seeking.com/member/5a41e...b-efe6b3ce95d2

Started chatting with her a day or two ago. This morning got her to the point where she's cool with chatting via Kik. I asked her screen name on Kik and it's "Fellatiolove" so I'm thinking ooh yeah, This is going to be a fun one. Not so much. Here's a summary of the conversation after the pleasantries were out of the way.

Me: so what are you looking for?

Her: A sugar daddy that can spoil me on a consistent basis.

Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end..

I'd probably pay $400 to spend a few hours with those.

[OliverNP]

Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end.

Her: Someone who can afford a weekly allowance.

Me: Ok, well that's the whole premise to the website / Sugar daddy concept. The older established man pays the younger hot female a agreed upon fee between the two. But you don't get paid just for looking pretty and talking to me. You got to give to get.

No offense intended but I can tell you right off the bat that an overly direct approach like this is going to result in side effects that are considered undesirable by most SDs. Asking them to pre-agree to sex before they've met you is going to preclude an entire category of POTS from ever wanting to meet you. Being too direct, and talking to them like a subordinate will also put you quickly into the "ghost him before we get started" category with some girls. Pros will agree to banging a guy they haven't met, but even then being too direct or if they think you're being arrogant, it's just going to result in being over-quoted. A lot of women want to be dominated but they don't want to see that side of you until they feel more comfortable. Being a bit charming and tactful will get you way farther toward getting these girls into the F&C for not much money. All women admire those traits in men and if you exhibit them you will get much more of what you really want (cheap pussy).

[YoungHezzy]

https://www.seeking.com/member/5a41e...b-efe6b3ce95d2

Started chatting with her a day or two ago. This morning got her to the point where she's cool with chatting via Kik. I asked her screen name on Kik and it's "Fellatiolove" so I'm thinking ooh yeah, This is going to be a fun one. Not so much. Here's a summary of the conversation after the pleasantries were out of the way.

Me: so what are you looking for?

Her: A sugar daddy that can spoil me on a consistent basis.

Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end.

Her: Someone who can afford a weekly allowance.

Yea had convo with her total waste of time I've found with most of them if they want to talk on kik or just email it's a waste we have monger numbers and they have there ho numbers its doesn't take any work to get one LOL.

[Dimples572]

https://www.seeking.com/member/5a41e...b-efe6b3ce95d2

Started chatting with her a day or two ago. This morning got her to the point where she's cool with chatting via Kik. I asked her screen name on Kik and it's "Fellatiolove" so I'm thinking ooh yeah, This is going to be a fun one. Not so much. Here's a summary of the conversation after the pleasantries were out of the way.

Me: so what are you looking for?

Her: A sugar daddy that can spoil me on a consistent basis.

Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end.

Her: Someone who can afford a weekly allowance.

Me: Ok, well that's the whole premise to the website / Sugar daddy concept. The older established man pays the younger hot female a agreed upon fee between the two. But you don't get paid just for looking pretty and talking to me. You got to give to get.

Her: Sure. Once I feel that you can financially spoil me on a consistent basis.

You don't just get laid because you can treat one time.

Me: actually that's exactly how it works.

Her: Up to you if you want to learn more about me. .

Half hr later after no response from me.

Her: well I'm not really sure what you are looking for it but thanks for your time.

Her: Plus my pay per meet starts at 400.

Clearly she needs an education on how this works, but its not going to be me. Don't waste your time gentleman.

Attached is her private pics. Pretty easy on the eyes.

[BookerTNelson]

That's the thing about Seeking.

No matter how good your game is in real life, playing the SA game is totally different.

Once you learn about the scammers and rinsers, you need to understand how to be fair and reasonable with SBs who are new or old to the sugar bowl.

Honestly, my game is exactly the same with Seeking and I shoot nearly 95% from the field. Very rarely do I get to a M&G and have them not want to find a FC pretty quickly. And I will NEVER understand how guys get scammed in the sugar bowl. They're so easy to spot.

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This one needed $300 within an hour and a half of me speaking to her to be able to stay in her apt after her landlord found out she had dogs lmao. Got to love the originality though.

Think of the dogs!

This is a reminder that some SBs will stoop to any low to scam SDs.

Never believe anything a SB tells you.

If you don't see the P, don't pull out your wallet.

[ItsAHobby45]

Think of it as "Sure Thing" Dating. Pussy is yours to lose.

It just like regular dating -- show interest, be respectful, compliment her -- but on a much more accelerated time frame.

I've really learned that the key to this whole game is to be quick. If you master the art of sealing the deal quickly without seeming like you're being too pushy you're golden at this game. My target age I search for is 18-26 and what I've learned is that most of the 18-20 y / o's are extremely hesitant to set up any kind of meeting and almost all of them just want to sell pics. I've tried hard to convince a few to meet with zero success even when offering very generous compensation. Once you get over that age range it's like shooting fish in a barrel. The hardest part is weeding out the pros and UTR's from the actual SB's. I met with 3 last week and two of them are absolutely amazing. Money is the only thing limiting me at this point as I've set a limit because this hobby can be compulsive.

[Ernest Ll]

Think of it as "Sure Thing" Dating. Pussy is yours to lose.

It just like regular dating -- show interest, be respectful, compliment her -- but on a much more accelerated time frame.

That's the thing about Seeking.

No matter how good your game is in real life, playing the SA game is totally different.

Once you learn about the scammers and rinsers, you need to understand how to be fair and reasonable with SBs who are new or old to the sugar bowl.

There is some amazing pussy on SA. Finding and mining it is the trick. It's doable if you have finesse.

Once you realize how the game is played, you are in heaven.

Girls on SA love a guy who knows how to play the game.

Be it a first time SB, or a seasoned pro, they all love a SD who knows the deal.

[RavensFan2012]

This one needed $300 within an hour and a half of me speaking to her to be able to stay in her apt after her landlord found out she had dogs lmao. Got to love the originality though.

[Dog Rice]

Nice report!! Haven't been reading this thread for a while.

What you said is so true about guys with SO. That's why I left the bowl several years ago (was in it back in 2011). After reading your report, I am now itchy to get back. Heeee.

Gee, thanks, HG. That's high praise coming from you. I have moved into a regime where I am very $ limited, so I do have to take some of your lessons to heart. My goal is still to f* as much high quality p* as I can, though. Given I have a 'live-in' SO who hasn't given me a hall pass, it's a challenge sometimes. Lotsa guys here are like this, though. I also hope some of my practices can help as how-tos for those new here who are like me. Want a non-escort, GFE experience and definitely a non-escort price.

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It really takes a couple years or even more if you are starting from ground zero like I did to master this shit. But once you do it; s basically shooting fish in a barrel.

That's the thing about Seeking.

No matter how good your game is in real life, playing the SA game is totally different.

Once you learn about the scammers and rinsers, you need to understand how to be fair and reasonable with SBs who are new or old to the sugar bowl.

There is some amazing pussy on SA. Finding and mining it is the trick. It's doable if you have finesse.

Once you realize how the game is played, you are in heaven.

Girls on SA love a guy who knows how to play the game.

Be it a first time SB, or a seasoned pro, they all love a SD who knows the deal.

[FarFarAway]

I like never read this thread. But it seems you have upped your game quite a bit since I first started reading your exploits. It really takes a couple years or even more if you are starting from ground zero like I did to master this shit. But once you do it; s basically shooting fish in a barrel. And vegas so far for me is much better than L. A. Especially if you factor in that there are about 80% less girls to choose from. Keep up the good work (and I know you will).

Gee, thanks, HG. That's high praise coming from you. I have moved into a regime where I am very $ limited, so I do have to take some of your lessons to heart. My goal is still to f* as much high quality p* as I can, though. Given I have a 'live-in' SO who hasn't given me a hall pass, it's a challenge sometimes. Lotsa guys here are like this, though. I also hope some of my practices can help as how-tos for those new here who are like me. Want a non-escort, GFE experience and definitely a non-escort price.

[HollywoodGuy]

Following the M&G I posted about the other day, I had her in the FC today. However, I had another M&G first. This was an Asian 27 YO, I surmised she wasn't a hottie from texts, but figured to be low mileage. Admitted to not having sex for 14 mos, w / a BF overseas. An odd duck, but that's hardly rare. Trying to set up the meet, she wants time to get ready after she tans at her pool. I suggest just coming over and hanging there; she provides her address. In her bikini, she's not slim, but nice boobs. We chat a while, so she can figure out I'm not a criminal, but I want to move on to my main event for the day. I decide to try something and ask my standard question, 'are you the sort of woman who likes her man to be in the lead?' and she replies bluntly that she's submissive. I move over to sit on her chaise and touch her lightly all over as we chat, including the crotch of her bottoms. She asks flat out if I have to leave right away, I have 20 minutes and tell her I didn't plan for anything, but she takes me to her apartment anyway. Kissing on her bed, and kissing her neck (she texted me she favors this) wind her up. I pull off the bikini and start finger-banging her (she also asked for this by text). A hot 15 minutes, she's panting and exhausted, and I have a wet spot on my pants leg from splashes from her cooze. I don't have the time, equipment, or stamina to f* her, though, so I take off. I left her a $25 gift card, but that's the only sugar I'd ever provide. I'd only return to f* her for charity.

I get to the FC w / my Latina spinner, she's as cute as ever. Once on the bed, I get into eating her, and she does have the sweetest / prettiest p* She's wildly wound up, so I drag her to the edge of the bed and hang her head off so I can f* her mouth like it's her p* When I get out the equipment, she wants doggie and assumes the position right in front of me on the bed. Oh, the view!! I knew this was ill-advised, doggie is too fast for me, but she was so cute and I thought I could pace myself. However, her excited gyrations and "F* me daddy!"s did their worst, and I had to finish. In the interlude, we cuddled and napped, and resurrection proved possible. Second round she gave me the pick, and I went for simple mish. Then I pulled her legs up and held them over one shoulder. After a while it became apparent to me that I'd never get there, too bad b / c she wanted me to cum on her perky little tits. Perhaps I should have flipped her and done her doggie again. My damage? She asked for a Cinderella makeup kit. No, I am not making this up. From her favorite cosmetic maker, pricey actually. I wasn't going to be able to get this on the needed time scale, but I provided the cash for her to get it herself; her birthday is tomorrow. This girl should be available to me for $ + a room, which she booked in this case. I'll definitely repeat.

All in all, a pretty good day. FFA.

I like never read this thread. But it seems you have upped your game quite a bit since I first started reading your exploits. It really takes a couple years or even more if you are starting from ground zero like I did to master this shit. But once you do it; s basically shooting fish in a barrel. And vegas so far for me is much better than L. A. Especially if you factor in that there are about 80% less girls to choose from. Keep up the good work (and I know you will).

[BStreet]

The pettiness of some. I had this happen to me a couple of years ago, posted only to get some information about a girl, some dip let her know and then she stood me up and told me why. Don't get why anyone on here wants to throw anyone under the bus, cause if that's your angle on getting what somebody else has the opportunity to be with, then your pathetic and have no game what so ever!

Hey Guys!

You know what really pisses me off. When at the end of a session a provider shows me a screen shot of a post I made on this site about them, and says that their "friend" sent it to them. And I bet it pisses most of you guys off as well. But clearly, it doesn't piss EVERYONE on here off, because that's exactly what someone did to me yesterday. Sent a screenshot of my post to a provider. And it wasn't even a post where I was critical. I was simply asking for some information.

I saw RosalieXoXo last night. And afterwards she sent me a screen shot of the post I made yesterday. She was upset that I hadn't shown "discretion". She was upset that I had a link to her SA Profile in my post. LOL! A link in a post that you would have to be registered on this site to see. A link to a profile on SA that you would have to be registered on SA to see. I'm not discreet? I know a TON more about her than I shared yesterday or will share today. Because I AM discreet.

And based on what she told me, I'm 99% sure I know who did it! But I can't prove it, so I won't share. Because I'm fair and discreet.

But trust me, I've reached out privately.

However, I will add this. It's a new regular member. So for any of you honest RMs out there who get pissed because SMs don't want to share intel with you and don't trust you, here's a great example of why. It only takes one RM out there who wants to endear himself to a provider, or build her "trust" to fuck it up for the rest of you.

As far as RosalieXOXO goes, she asked that I not share any info about her, or about our interaction. And at this point, I will honor that request.

So. Do what ever you want. I can't stop you. But sharing posts and info from this forum with providers defeats the purpose and could eventually kill it.

Stay Safe. Starkey.

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[RavensFan2012]

Has anyone had any experience with her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/5c300...2-833979cb775a

She's a VCU coed and we are meeting tomorrow. Convo seems normal, just want to see if anyone has any actual experience they can share. Feel free to PM if you want. If not, I'll report back after.

Stay Safe,

Starkey.

Damn I've been talking to her too and was thinking about hooking up this weekend but sounds like she's a straight pro. Make sure you wrap it up fellas.