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  1. #6045
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    Posts: 1979

    Crapshoot Rules 1, 2, and 3.

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeSmyt  [View Original Post]
    So I rolled the dice and against my better judgement of hitting a reliable AMP in the area, I hit up the provider of this ad (below).

    https://adultsearch.com/virginia/fai...scorts/1385094

    Well, as you can tell by the title, it was a disappointing bad time. The service put me off after arriving at the place in Centerville for 20 minutes which ended up being for the girl to make ready as nobody ever came out of the apartment while I sat and watched the building before contacting me with the 'all ready'. So I knock and after about four times, a cute asian girl named Kelly answers. I go in and attempt a gentle embrace to feel her out. She half hearted put one arm on my shoulder. That should've been my queue but I stayed anyway. After business was conducted she showed me to the room which consisted of a queen mattress and box spring on the floor with sheet and towels covering. I unclothed and she entered and dropped her dress to reveal a very nice soft figure with some nice B's. Thinking of what was said to be offered on the link, I then attempted another embrace to which she again, with drew and instructed me to lie down for massage. I won't bore you with the details of a very phoned in effort which never went below my waist, but after only roughly 10 minutes she started with the soft caress upon my back before asking me to flip. As I did her eyes grew big as she had a good look at my little man who was now wide awake. She told me that I was too big. Thinking this was just her flattery, I laughed it off. She then started a ver lazy HJ before applying the CBJ. As she was sure it wasn't getting any bigger, she again told me that it was big and wasn't sure if she could but that she'd try. Well, we started with missionary and she immediately started wincing as in pain before I was even half in. I pulled her legs up and slid it all the way in which made her cry out. I then backed out halfway and started slowing short stroking and even then she winced. After only few minutes she told me it was time to finish or she could HJ me to finish. I finally decided that I didn't want to hurt her too bad so decided to opt for the NoVa. I warned her that it usually takes me longer to finish that way and that I'd need to at least rub her body while she worked. She kept pulling back so after a few minutes and her again telling me to finish because I was over my time (which I knew was impossible), I conceded and told her that we were done. I dressed and tried to comfort her to which she again withdrew. I left and while driving actually got a text from the service about my visit. I explained that I would not return nor recommend to which they asked why. I explained that I was rushed, she was cold to touch, she shorted me a half hour, etc etc and nothing on the site was offered. They apologized and advised that they had other girls to try. I then jokingly asked for a free half hour since I had already paid to which no reply ever came back. If it sounds as though I'm being an ass about all of this, I'm not. I generally over tip the girls at the AMP's and am very friendly to all girls who work.

    Cost to play was $160 hr (or in my case hhr visit), very boring, unenthusiastic massage and service all the way 'round. Would not recommend but YMMV. The place was Bent Tree apts.
    Rule #1: Never believe anything said in a crapshoot ad. It is 1000% a bunch of crap designed for the sole purpose of getting you to schedule an appt.

    Rule #2: Never schedule an hour appointment. That's because the girl will almost always make sure the session finishes around the 20-30 minute mark. One possible exception is if you've seen that same girl before and you know she's willing to go the full hour. But even if that's the case, the scheduler will usually call or text the girl at the 40-45 minute mark. The timer starts for them much earlier than you expect. If you happen to luck out and the girl's a gem, you can almost always extend your hh into an hr without any problem.

    Rule #3: If you get any indication (anything at all) that the session might be subpar, you need to walk away without hesitation. The 20 min wait was a red flag. The cold, unenthusiastic greeting you received was exactly that kind of red flag. Maybe that's her normal attitude, or maybe she was having a bad day. Doesn't really matter because either way the odds were poor that you were going to have a decent session. Usually they don't ask for payment until you're in the room and ready to get undressed so that should give you enough time to assess the situation and decide whether to stay or walk.

    FWIW, on the rare occasions I visit a crapshoot place, my mindset is that the girl needs to give me enough of a positive vibe to make me want to stay. Anything negative, or even neutral, and I'll make some excuse and leave. They're called crapshoots because the odds are not favorable that you'll have a good session. You can take steps to improve those odds, like the rules discussed above, but above all ya need to know when to cut your losses and walk.

  2. #6044

    I Don't Get It?

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeSmyt  [View Original Post]
    So I rolled the dice and against my better judgement of hitting a reliable AMP in the area, I hit up the provider of this ad (below).

    https://adultsearch.com/virginia/fai...scorts/1385094

    Well, as you can tell by the title, it was a disappointing bad time. The service put me off after arriving at the place in Centerville for 20 minutes which ended up being for the girl to make ready as nobody ever came out of the apartment while I sat and watched the building before contacting me with the 'all ready'. So I knock and after about four times, a cute asian girl named Kelly answers. I go in and attempt a gentle embrace to feel her out. She half hearted put one arm on my shoulder. That should've been my queue but I stayed anyway. After business was conducted she showed me to the room which consisted of a queen mattress and box spring on the floor with sheet and towels covering. I unclothed and she entered and dropped her dress to reveal a very nice soft figure with some nice B's. Thinking of what was said to be offered on the link, I then attempted another embrace to which she again, with drew and instructed me to lie down for massage. I won't bore you with the details of a very phoned in effort which never went below my waist, but after only roughly 10 minutes she started with the soft caress upon my back before asking me to flip. As I did her eyes grew big as she had a good look at my little man who was now wide awake. She told me that I was too big. Thinking this was just her flattery, I laughed it off. She then started a ver lazy HJ before applying the CBJ. As she was sure it wasn't getting any bigger, she again told me that it was big and wasn't sure if she could but that she'd try. Well, we started with missionary and she immediately started wincing as in pain before I was even half in. I pulled her legs up and slid it all the way in which made her cry out. I then backed out halfway and started slowing short stroking and even then she winced. After only few minutes she told me it was time to finish or she could HJ me to finish. I finally decided that I didn't want to hurt her too bad so decided to opt for the NoVa. I warned her that it usually takes me longer to finish that way and that I'd need to at least rub her body while she worked. She kept pulling back so after a few minutes and her again telling me to finish because I was over my time (which I knew was impossible), I conceded and told her that we were done. I dressed and tried to comfort her to which she again withdrew. I left and while driving actually got a text from the service about my visit. I explained that I would not return nor recommend to which they asked why. I explained that I was rushed, she was cold to touch, she shorted me a half hour, etc etc and nothing on the site was offered. They apologized and advised that they had other girls to try. I then jokingly asked for a free half hour since I had already paid to which no reply ever came back. If it sounds as though I'm being an ass about all of this, I'm not. I generally over tip the girls at the AMP's and am very friendly to all girls who work.

    Cost to play was $160 hr (or in my case hhr visit), very boring, unenthusiastic massage and service all the way 'round. Would not recommend but YMMV. The place was Bent Tree apts.
    Why do a crapshoot when you can go to the professionally run Korean AMPs in the area & be guaranteed a sure thing?

    Playing with a saggy forty year old would totally gross me out.

    I understand a lot of guys have had issues getting verified by the real thing. Just seems like a lot of good money keeps chasing bad.

    Maybe I'm missing something. I've been a client of CP for over a decade. Maybe left less than 100% satisfied with a girls looks or
    her service maybe twice.

    Not casting shade, just saying.

  3. #6043

    TOFTT, aka Asian Crapshoot ahead

    So I rolled the dice and against my better judgement of hitting a reliable AMP in the area, I hit up the provider of this ad (below).

    https://adultsearch.com/virginia/fai...scorts/1385094

    Well, as you can tell by the title, it was a disappointing bad time. The service put me off after arriving at the place in Centerville for 20 minutes which ended up being for the girl to make ready as nobody ever came out of the apartment while I sat and watched the building before contacting me with the 'all ready'. So I knock and after about four times, a cute asian girl named Kelly answers. I go in and attempt a gentle embrace to feel her out. She half hearted put one arm on my shoulder. That should've been my queue but I stayed anyway. After business was conducted she showed me to the room which consisted of a queen mattress and box spring on the floor with sheet and towels covering. I unclothed and she entered and dropped her dress to reveal a very nice soft figure with some nice B's. Thinking of what was said to be offered on the link, I then attempted another embrace to which she again, with drew and instructed me to lie down for massage. I won't bore you with the details of a very phoned in effort which never went below my waist, but after only roughly 10 minutes she started with the soft caress upon my back before asking me to flip. As I did her eyes grew big as she had a good look at my little man who was now wide awake. She told me that I was too big. Thinking this was just her flattery, I laughed it off. She then started a ver lazy HJ before applying the CBJ. As she was sure it wasn't getting any bigger, she again told me that it was big and wasn't sure if she could but that she'd try. Well, we started with missionary and she immediately started wincing as in pain before I was even half in. I pulled her legs up and slid it all the way in which made her cry out. I then backed out halfway and started slowing short stroking and even then she winced. After only few minutes she told me it was time to finish or she could HJ me to finish. I finally decided that I didn't want to hurt her too bad so decided to opt for the NoVa. I warned her that it usually takes me longer to finish that way and that I'd need to at least rub her body while she worked. She kept pulling back so after a few minutes and her again telling me to finish because I was over my time (which I knew was impossible), I conceded and told her that we were done. I dressed and tried to comfort her to which she again withdrew. I left and while driving actually got a text from the service about my visit. I explained that I would not return nor recommend to which they asked why. I explained that I was rushed, she was cold to touch, she shorted me a half hour, etc etc and nothing on the site was offered. They apologized and advised that they had other girls to try. I then jokingly asked for a free half hour since I had already paid to which no reply ever came back. If it sounds as though I'm being an ass about all of this, I'm not. I generally over tip the girls at the AMP's and am very friendly to all girls who work.

    Cost to play was $160 hr (or in my case hhr visit), very boring, unenthusiastic massage and service all the way 'round. Would not recommend but YMMV. The place was Bent Tree apts.

  4. #6042

    Never pay the deposit

    I almost always make last minute arrangements. This time was different. This time I made plans several days in advance. You may have guessed how this story ends but don't worry, I didn't pay the deposit. NEVER PAY THE DEPOSIT.

    Stuff happens. Your provider might be up all night partying and posting selfies, wake up just four hours later with a bad hangover, and realize they need a day off. They might tell you the floor is swarming with housekeeping and they "don't feel comfortable" keeping a 10 am appointment (on the day they are checking out). It might occur to you that this is probably BS. You might even feel a bit upset since there were three other ladies that you considered to book for the same slot but now there's no time to make alternative arrangements. But then you will realize it's raining, traffic is nasty, you're kinda slammed at work as it is, and anyway it's not like you're out $$ because you never ever pay the deposit.

    Yeah, she's already advertising pre-books in August. $25 Cashapp. Sigh.

  5. #6041

    More P411

    Quote Originally Posted by Kinoko34  [View Original Post]
    P411's old management did seem like it was trying to go down TER's alley for a while, but instead they sold the site to some European company that has since kept P411 in almost he same shape that it was in before the law passed. There did seem to be something of a small exodus of providers that left P411 or increased their rates since P411 was one of the few places that they were still allowed to advertise.

    Now a days, P411 feels pretty much unchanged from where it was. They banned all agencies, but some have managed to weasel their way in with one provider who has an account effectively checking for the whole agency. New providers are allowed to register, but I think either the rules for entry are too strict or providers have found alternatives and aren't interested.
    Some of the agency profiles that had been deactivated are now back. Also, there's a trickle of new providers joining from DMV.

    It's worth it to me. Seems like the new owners are looking to maintain and grow the business.

  6. #6040

    Fee?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoobyHunter  [View Original Post]
    First off, thank you to the members that PM'd me with regards to VIP!

    So I know there's been questions about Angie's roommate and I just wanted to clarify a few things. I saw Angie a few days ago (amazing date! And she introduced me to her friend. Jenny is very.

    Sweet and kind and seems to have a fun demeanor. That being said, she said that she is body rub only as well nuru. She will give HE either orally or dextrously. However, she made it very clear that FS is NOT an option. I haven't tried her yet, but I might give her a shot because of Angie's recommendation (I'm personally not a body rub only fan). Below are the links to her ads. Enjoy!

    https://dc.rubratings.com/127259

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/jenny-na...-corner-452847
    What is her fee? De. RubRations says at 120/ hr, but Erotic Monkey says $260. $120 if a rub-only rate, but 260 is a FS rate.

  7. #6039
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenKoi333  [View Original Post]
    Saggy? Far from saggy bruh.
    That's good to hear. Any deets about her or your session?

  8. #6038

    Learned a lesson

    Well I took the tour of a few of the Extended stays and a few others in the area and figured out its not worth the time energy and money. First of all Red Roof / Manassas. Room smelled of heavy smoke and sorry I can't stand that, next Fairfax extend, let's just say not friendly at all, nice body asked to wait 20 min after time was set, walked in t shirt and sweats, next other extended in Fairfax very nice lady only jacked up price after decided and each dream desire added another. 20. Wolfe Trap is a trap advertised 24, maybe 42 nasty room, lastly extended in CVille the worst of all advertised many popular options hahaha none available, and girl obviously does not belong in the business. Figured oh hell let's just dream about a massage, searched one close and hit up Comfort since ad says "HOT YOUNG and very willing to please".

    I guess young means at least 40 and up, the girl at the desk was hot and maybe 24 but she says she doesn't do massages or anything. So a complete waste of a day but oh well saved my $$ and learned all these places area total ripoff of what they advertised.

  9. #6037

    Maybe FS is on the menu?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoobyHunter  [View Original Post]
    First off, thank you to the members that PM'd me with regards to VIP!

    So I know there's been questions about Angie's roommate and I just wanted to clarify a few things. I saw Angie a few days ago (amazing date! And she introduced me to her friend. Jenny is very.

    Sweet and kind and seems to have a fun demeanor. That being said, she said that she is body rub only as well nuru. She will give HE either orally or dextrously. However, she made it very clear that FS is NOT an option. I haven't tried her yet, but I might give her a shot because of Angie's recommendation (I'm personally not a body rub only fan). Below are the links to her ads. Enjoy!

    https://dc.rubratings.com/127259

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/jenny-na...-corner-452847
    It's weird that she said FS is not on the menu because a recent review of her in July states that they did do the hookie pookie so maybe she likes to keep it low or YMMV. Either way reviews say she's worth a visit.

  10. #6036

    Jenny's rates

    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAviator  [View Original Post]
    I checked both URLs provide interesting that advert dc. Rub lists fairly standard FBSM rates whereas them advert lists prices twice as high.
    Unfortunately, she never spoke to me about her rates so I personally can't answer as to which one to go with. Same with Angie's p411 vs adultsearch ads, she has different rates on them. Whenever I encounter that situation, I just go with the lower one and say "that's what your ad said" LOL. But yeah, you're more than welcome to contact Jenny if you need want to clarify.

  11. #6035

    It pays (or saves) to shop the adverts

    Quote Originally Posted by BoobyHunter  [View Original Post]
    First off, thank you to the members that PM'd me with regards to VIP!

    So I know there's been questions about Angie's roommate and I just wanted to clarify a few things. I saw Angie a few days ago (amazing date! And she introduced me to her friend. Jenny is very.

    Sweet and kind and seems to have a fun demeanor. That being said, she said that she is body rub only as well nuru. She will give HE either orally or dextrously. However, she made it very clear that FS is NOT an option. I haven't tried her yet, but I might give her a shot because of Angie's recommendation (I'm personally not a body rub only fan). Below are the links to her ads. Enjoy!

    https://dc.rubratings.com/127259

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/jenny-na...-corner-452847
    I checked both URLs provide -- interesting that advert dc. Rub lists fairly standard FBSM rates whereas them advert lists prices twice as high.

  12. #6034

    MiuMiu

    Might be dreaming of VIP this week. Anyone know of MiuMiu? Are longer dreams of VIP worthwhile? Multiple shots expected?

    Drop me a PM.

  13. #6033

    Michelle Passions

    I had a dream that I saw Michelle Passions several weeks ago. She lives out of the area but visits regularly. In my dream she was staying at a hotel in Tyson's and we communicated via text and phone call. I was late to arrive but she was understanding and is a very sweet girl. I dreamt about DATY, CBJ, CFS and engaging conversation. Overall, had a really good dream and I would love to have the same dream again.

    https://www.adultlook.com/p/2979580

  14. #6032

    Info on Angie's Roommate

    First off, thank you to the members that PM'd me with regards to VIP!

    So I know there's been questions about Angie's roommate and I just wanted to clarify a few things. I saw Angie a few days ago (amazing date! And she introduced me to her friend. Jenny is very.

    Sweet and kind and seems to have a fun demeanor. That being said, she said that she is body rub only as well nuru. She will give HE either orally or dextrously. However, she made it very clear that FS is NOT an option. I haven't tried her yet, but I might give her a shot because of Angie's recommendation (I'm personally not a body rub only fan). Below are the links to her ads. Enjoy!

    https://dc.rubratings.com/127259

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/jenny-na...-corner-452847

  15. #6031

    Vip

    It's Club VIP they are refering too. I've tried Club once, but it AG better?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoobyHunter  [View Original Post]
    Forgive my ignorance, but is VIP a kgirl agency? Tried searching for it in the thread, but apparently VIP is un-searchable. If someone could PM me, that would be great. I know of CP, BL (which I think is closed), HT, and DS. Thank you so much!

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