"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Madaboutmax** · 06-27-19 22:36

I've actually found an inverse relationship to price and experience. Women that are in it for more than money have been a much better experiences than any of the women asking big dollars. I do agree that a woman focused on $s will be less motivated by a lower allowance, but I avoid those women like the plague!!

Originally Posted by S2568 [View Original Post]

She said the same thing to me she wants $600 per meet and in that age range she is wayyyy over priced I have seen below 20's really hot college girls for not more than 300 and they are no holes barred and full of passion. So not sure if that logic of higher the pay better the attention doesn't hold in my humble opinion, at least in my case any way.

There have been a few who did say the same price range and they are in their 30's and I have a couple of planned meets in near future for far less way better looking than these.

**Kwagmire** · 06-27-19 19:29

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I am facing a new authentication protocol on seeking.com. I use the Epic browser b / c of its built-in VPN, it seems SA thinks it is some sort of subterfuge, so it periodically makes me go through a Captcah. PITA. Anyone else experiencing? Have a better way to do this?

I just logged into SA using Epic and everything was fine. I use the Netherlands location on VPN, FWIW.

**Truncated** · 06-27-19 18:53

Originally Posted by Almighty [View Original Post]

Do you have to give your personal information when you sign up / activate the card?

Amex requires you to provide a SSN when you activate a bluebird card. I wouldn't do that with any card linked to Seeking.

Just get a Vanilla Visa card from Wal Mart. Follow the activation directions I've posted previously. It works 100% of the time if you do so.

**S2568** · 06-27-19 18:08

Originally Posted by DCSeeker [View Original Post]

That's not unreasonable as long as she's really hot and I've seen her in person at a meet and greet. I've always been able to get a 500 girl to go down to 400 or 450. Just beware, if you bargain a girl down on the price, she's not going to be as motivated to make you happy. You get what you pay for on SA. Just like a steak, I'll pay extra for quality.

She said the same thing to me she wants $600 per meet and in that age range she is wayyyy over priced I have seen below 20's really hot college girls for not more than 300 and they are no holes barred and full of passion. So not sure if that logic of higher the pay better the attention doesn't hold in my humble opinion, at least in my case any way.

There have been a few who did say the same price range and they are in their 30's and I have a couple of planned meets in near future for far less way better looking than these.

**FarFarAway** · 06-27-19 01:13

I am facing a new authentication protocol on seeking.com. I use the Epic browser b / c of its built-in VPN, it seems SA thinks it is some sort of subterfuge, so it periodically makes me go through a Captcah. PITA. Anyone else experiencing? Have a better way to do this?

**Geechie Dan** · 06-26-19 15:47

Originally Posted by DCSeeker [View Original Post]

That's not unreasonable as long as she's really hot and I've seen her in person at a meet and greet. I've always been able to get a 500 girl to go down to 400 or 450. Just beware, if you bargain a girl down on the price, she's not going to be as motivated to make you happy. You get what you pay for on SA. Just like a steak, I'll pay extra for quality.

If you got the funds to cover that much on a regular basis then I applaud you, but I have a set limit that I will not go past, no matter how hot they are. Even if I could afford a Rolex I wouldn't get one because I believe they're over priced and there are plenty of watches that get the job done just as well.

**EvilTmp** · 06-26-19 12:43

Originally Posted by DCSeeker [View Original Post]

That's not unreasonable as long as she's really hot and I've seen her in person at a meet and greet. I've always been able to get a 500 girl to go down to 400 or 450. Just beware, if you bargain a girl down on the price, she's not going to be as motivated to make you happy. You get what you pay for on SA. Just like a steak, I'll pay extra for quality.

My experience has been exactly the opposite: the higher the amount she wants, the less fun the main event will be. I only go for college-type girls, not pros or high volume.

**DCSeeker** · 06-26-19 06:14

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

So I'm communicating with a lady on SA, and for allowance she says 500. I tell her that's too steep and counter with 250 ppm. She says she averages 1 k-2 k ppm, but never less than 500. Question, do any of you guys actually pay that much? No judging, just curious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9ec1d...d-6aed6633f4da

That's not unreasonable as long as she's really hot and I've seen her in person at a meet and greet. I've always been able to get a 500 girl to go down to 400 or 450. Just beware, if you bargain a girl down on the price, she's not going to be as motivated to make you happy. You get what you pay for on SA. Just like a steak, I'll pay extra for quality.

**Geneva Guy** · 06-25-19 11:52

Originally Posted by EvilTmp [View Original Post]

I know it's a like a broken record but never, ever believe what a girl says she "usually gets" or what she does to get that allowance. They will always lie.

Actually, I find 3 categories of potential SBs. First are the ones that lie and tell you they get enormous sums on a monthly or individual meeting basis. I guess its like buying a car, no harm in trying but of course, it pisses us guys off; Second, the girls that want to meet platonically for a few meetings to "get to know you" before going to bed, they are immediately ditched by me. Finally, the girls that I say "$150/ meet and they say OK for BBFS / CIP, etc. I have a couple of 22 year olds on the hook now, no public meeting, just come over and enjoy. Latina's on top of that. Sorry guys I'm not in VA but this board it terrific.

**BookerTNelson** · 06-25-19 11:05

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

I suggested we meet in person, but she said if I wasn't going to budge from my price then there was no need to waste each other's time. I said good luck in your endeavors and I'll be moving on.

I'm currently banging a younger lady whose body is better than hers, and I'm doing it at a much lower price.

Then there you have it. I discuss allowance / donation until we are face to face but I typically leave things as you did when they don't budge but then 8/10 when I follow up after her page has become a little dormant they're mostly willing to meet at that point.

**Geechie Dan** · 06-25-19 10:52

Originally Posted by BookerTNelson [View Original Post]

She started with 500 but says she averages 1 k-2 k? I'd say you can easily get her for your initial offer if you can get her to meet you face to face.

I suggested we meet in person, but she said if I wasn't going to budge from my price then there was no need to waste each other's time. I said good luck in your endeavors and I'll be moving on.

I'm currently banging a younger lady whose body is better than hers, and I'm doing it at a much lower price.

**EvilTmp** · 06-25-19 09:31

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

So I'm communicating with a lady on SA, and for allowance she says 500. I tell her that's too steep and counter with 250 ppm. She says she averages 1 k-2 k ppm, but never less than 500. Question, do any of you guys actually pay that much? No judging, just curious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9ec1d...d-6aed6633f4da

I know it's a like a broken record but never, ever believe what a girl says she "usually gets" or what she does to get that allowance. They will always lie.

**BookerTNelson** · 06-25-19 07:20

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

So I'm communicating with a lady on SA, and for allowance she says 500. I tell her that's too steep and counter with 250 ppm. She says she averages 1 k-2 k ppm, but never less than 500. Question, do any of you guys actually pay that much? No judging, just curious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9ec1d...d-6aed6633f4da

She started with 500 but says she averages 1 k-2 k? I'd say you can easily get her for your initial offer if you can get her to meet you face to face.

**Truncated** · 06-25-19 06:18

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

So I'm communicating with a lady on SA, and for allowance she says 500. I tell her that's too steep and counter with 250 ppm. She says she averages 1 k-2 k ppm, but never less than 500. Question, do any of you guys actually pay that much? No judging, just curious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9ec1d...d-6aed6633f4da

I have no doubt there are new guys to Sugaring who throw $2,000 at a girl. Some guy who was married for 20 years and suddenly discovers the sugar bowl and has a meet and greet with an instagram model.

But on a regular basis? No fucking way. $2,000 on a regular basis is at the high end of what the top escorts in the country can obtain.

I'm in Raleigh, but read the Richmond forum because it is informative.

Down here, some of the SBs meet and keep a spreadsheet of SDs. How much SDs will pay, what they are like, etc. They also meet monthly to drink and exchange stories.

One of my SBs showed me the spreadsheet. There were guys on it who pay 500 for a HJ, guys who paid 1,000 for a lingerie show, and guys who paid 500 for coffee. Those guys are hunted on Seeking by those girls.

But, for the most part, guys are paying a few hundred for weekly encounters.

Most of the girls in the club seem interested in finding the guys who will pay 50-100 to have a meet and greet.

That girl you mention told you all you need to know when she said 1,500-2000 but never less than 500.

She will take 250.

How do I know that? Because she answered you when you said 250.

Stand firm or move on. Someone else will take 250.

**WhamBalls** · 06-25-19 00:53

Originally Posted by GeechieDan [View Original Post]

So I'm communicating with a lady on SA, and for allowance she says 500. I tell her that's too steep and counter with 250 ppm. She says she averages 1 k-2 k ppm, but never less than 500. Question, do any of you guys actually pay that much? No judging, just curious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9ec1d...d-6aed6633f4da

I would never pay that much for the meet they are offering. I feel like this is common for SA where the girls want 500 a meet and don't offer very much.