Non Pro's

**Michael1967** · 05-08-19 00:28

Originally Posted by WFM33 [View Original Post]

Any users? Is it worthwhile? Better / worse than SA?

I'm on it, but can't make the actual plunge. I had someone offer $150 for a date and her profile say that she likes to go to a local bar and then go to her place afterwards. I'm not sure if the $150 is to meet her at the bar. Or if the going to her place afterwards count also. I have several other offers for $200. But after running across my 18 YO on SA who wanted $250 for a meet & greet. I'm not willing to take the plunge and be disappointed.

**WFM33** · 05-07-19 20:35

Any users? Is it worthwhile? Better / worse than SA?

**Millerlite1** · 05-07-19 09:20

Originally Posted by Diver6390 [View Original Post]

For you more experienced mongers, what are your thoughts on Secrets? I read about the place on Fetlife, and I had a half hour to kill yesterday and stopped in, just to see the vibe. I figured that any woman who went there would be the quintessential Non-Pro. There was a curvy woman in some skimpy dress behind the counter and a couple of dudes standing around. To get into the theaters, it was a $10 cover. I figured that I would not have time to close any deals in 30 minutes and chose not the spend the money. So for those of you who may have been there and have closed deals, what are your thoughts? Are there good looking (well, good enough to fuck) women there? Or is it mostly cross-dressers, and TVs and TSs? Don't have anything against them, just not my cup of tea. Is it worthwhile to go back sometime when I do have enough time to close a deal. ?

I have been a few times. Track it on fetlife.

If you are clean, shaven and hung, the parties are cool.

I have done a few gangbangs there but the women are usually small bbw's or over 50.

**Diver6390** · 05-06-19 17:29

Anybody have any intel on this Daisy Duke wannabe?

https://www.seeking.com/member/4be07...d-38a4a6a760a9

**Diver6390** · 05-06-19 17:21

For you more experienced mongers, what are your thoughts on Secrets? I read about the place on Fetlife, and I had a half hour to kill yesterday and stopped in, just to see the vibe. I figured that any woman who went there would be the quintessential Non-Pro. There was a curvy woman in some skimpy dress behind the counter and a couple of dudes standing around. To get into the theaters, it was a $10 cover. I figured that I would not have time to close any deals in 30 minutes and chose not the spend the money. So for those of you who may have been there and have closed deals, what are your thoughts? Are there good looking (well, good enough to fuck) women there? Or is it mostly cross-dressers, and TVs and TSs? Don't have anything against them, just not my cup of tea. Is it worthwhile to go back sometime when I do have enough time to close a deal. ?

**Twister100** · 05-06-19 01:28

Originally Posted by Michael1967 [View Original Post]

Well that makes sense. I only contact people who message me first or people that favorite me. I get a LARGE amount of escorts (mainly people that I eventually find on TNA) and wannabe escorts (strippers). I've only contacted a couple of dozen people directly and most of the time I don't get a response, so I quit doing it. Now, I see why I always seem to find escorts, strippers and then the occasional normal person, instead of the other way around.

Wow. 2 years on that site and I thought I was doing well, now I'm finding out that I'm doing something wrong.

I had very few successes with the ladies that contacted me. Most seemed to be scams or pros. Just a side note, I don't think you have to confine yourself to the 30+ crowd to be successful on SA. I primarily focused on the under 30 ladies and didn't have any problems hooking up but takes more work.

**Michael1967** · 05-06-19 00:13

Originally Posted by Michael1967 [View Original Post]

I'm in my early 50's (already in shape) and have done well with on SA 23-35 YO. I have been texting daily with an 18 YO and have been on the fence about meeting her (18 is a little young for me). She did text some pictures over to me today that pretty much has changed my mind. Once my big head takes over again, I'll probably be back on the fence.

I said I was on the fence with the 18 YO. We texted back and forth and she wanted to meet me tonight. What did she want for a 15 minute meet and greet? $250. I didn't even bother with a counteroffer.

Oh well. NEXT!

**Michael1967** · 05-05-19 19:04

Originally Posted by Twister100 [View Original Post]

Unless you're putting your offer in your initial message, it would seem irrelevant as to whether she's a GPS or not as to why she would or wouldn't respond to an initial message. When I was active on SA, it seemed only half the ladies I contacted even read my message and of those only about a 1/3 responded so it's really a numbers game. If you look at it from a marketing perspective, for your average direct mail marketing campaigns, you're doing pretty good if you get a 2% response rate.

Well that makes sense. I only contact people who message me first or people that favorite me. I get a LARGE amount of escorts (mainly people that I eventually find on TNA) and wannabe escorts (strippers). I've only contacted a couple of dozen people directly and most of the time I don't get a response, so I quit doing it. Now, I see why I always seem to find escorts, strippers and then the occasional normal person, instead of the other way around.

Wow. 2 years on that site and I thought I was doing well, now I'm finding out that I'm doing something wrong.

**Twister100** · 05-05-19 16:53

Originally Posted by CreamPieGuy543 [View Original Post]

I've noticed something similar. I blame it on GPS and the increase in the amount of SD's willing to pay for GPS.

Unless you're putting your offer in your initial message, it would seem irrelevant as to whether she's a GPS or not as to why she would or wouldn't respond to an initial message. When I was active on SA, it seemed only half the ladies I contacted even read my message and of those only about a 1/3 responded so it's really a numbers game. If you look at it from a marketing perspective, for your average direct mail marketing campaigns, you're doing pretty good if you get a 2% response rate.

**CreamPieGuy543** · 05-05-19 15:40

I've noticed something similar. I blame it on GPS and the increase in the amount of SD's willing to pay for GPS.

Originally Posted by Toomgis [View Original Post]

I've been on SA awhile and had good luck last year, but this year is a complete drought. My problem lately is not getting responses to my initial messages. So I'm wondering what works. I think mine might be too lengthy.

**Twister100** · 05-05-19 10:52

Originally Posted by Toomgis [View Original Post]

I've been on SA awhile and had good luck last year, but this year is a complete drought. My problem lately is not getting responses to my initial messages. So I'm wondering what works. I think mine might be too lengthy.

The SB's are generally inundated with messages so keep it short, to the point, and tactful. I would save the your backstory and specifics for follow up conversations.

**Toomgis** · 05-04-19 22:24

I've been on SA awhile and had good luck last year, but this year is a complete drought. My problem lately is not getting responses to my initial messages. So I'm wondering what works. I think mine might be too lengthy.

**Twister100** · 05-04-19 20:31

Originally Posted by AK6571 [View Original Post]

Brothers,

I have been on the forum for a while, but pretty new to SA. I have had absolutely no luck finding any girls willing to meet. I have exchanged texts with a few of them and it has not really gone anywhere.

A lot of you guys seem to have had quite a bit of fun with the women in SA. I would appreciate suggestions on specific girls you have seen. For context, I am big on greek and open to BB Greek though BB is not a must. I would prefer girls 18-32 (I am in that age range).

Would greatly appreciate any suggestions from you fine gentlemen (or lack thereof).

Where would you say your primary failure is? SB's aren't responding to your initial message on SA or not following up to your texts?

**Michael1967** · 05-04-19 14:28

Originally Posted by AK6571 [View Original Post]

Brothers,

I have been on the forum for a while, but pretty new to SA. I have had absolutely no luck finding any girls willing to meet. I have exchanged texts with a few of them and it has not really gone anywhere.

A lot of you guys seem to have had quite a bit of fun with the women in SA. I would appreciate suggestions on specific girls you have seen. For context, I am big on greek and open to BB Greek though BB is not a must. I would prefer girls 18-32 (I am in that age range).

Would greatly appreciate any suggestions from you fine gentlemen (or lack thereof).

I'm in my early 50's (already in shape) and have done well with on SA 23-35 YO. I have been texting daily with an 18 YO and have been on the fence about meeting her (18 is a little young for me). She did text some pictures over to me today that pretty much has changed my mind. Once my big head takes over again, I'll probably be back on the fence.

I won't give you names (I'm assuming some of them want their privacy and I want to keep that aren't actually escorts to myself), but I'm confused on why you're having trouble. Unless you are dealing with an escort, you really do have to strike up a conversation. The quickest way to turn off a lady is to start talking about meeting right away and asking how much they want. I've never discussed a sex act with anyone on SA, so if you're doing that, it may be the problem. Generally, after the first meet and greet, it's assumed that I will give her the allowance she wants and she will put out. If we get together and we're not compatible, I move on. It's always worked that way, but if I did give an allowance and she didn't do it, it would be last she'd hear from me. Other than that, I'm simply dumbfounded at why you are not having any success. If I truly had the time or money to meet everyone, I'd be busy at least 4 or 5 days per week. I can only guess it may be your age. Old men will take a bunch of shit off of a hot 22 YO to keep her. A 32 YO, not as much. Maybe they know that.

At far as the butt sex, I can't help you there. I'm not really into it. It seems when I've done it (in non pay for play), it was mainly with younger people and we were drunk. The other guy on here said to look for it with older women, which makes sense.