"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

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In the last several weeks, I've had as many last-minute ghosts as I've had the prior five years I've been on SA. There's no particular pattern that I can see. One I had been talking to for a couple of weeks, and we were supposed to meet for lunch and then move to a hotel if we liked each other; my last text from her was the night before the proposed meeting, but the next morning, she didn't respond to texts, and I haven't heard from her since, although she's been on SA. One had given me the address of her apartment and told me to text her when I was there. I texted her from the parking lot, and she told me what apartment to ring. I rang a few times and got no response. I left, and about two hours later got a text asking me what had happened. The most recent was just an M&G at a restaurant. We had been trying to set something up for a couple of weeks, and we texted back and forth confirming the time and place the morning of; I went to the restaurant and waited for almost 30 minutes before ordering food for myself and having a solo lunch. Each of these incidents involved arranged times and places, and the latter two involved my actually going to the appointed place. I'm wondering whether I'm just having bad luck (fortunately, I've also had some good luck recently, too), or whether there's some kind of new sport where girls play games like this to feel like they have some power.

These events are more serious than the regular ghosting that occurs when someone you've been talking to stops responding to your messages. These cases involved my arranging time off of work and a fair amount of time driving around. Has anyone else noticed such a pattern?

You're getting catfished.

The person you've been communicating with is watching you show up and wait. They get a thrill out of doing so.

I would never waste a couple of weeks messaging with someone. Just text a few times and set up a meeting. If they don't agree to meet, block and move on. It's just someone who is looking for a texting friend, catfishing you, or whatever.

Anyone serious about an arrangement will meet in person after a few text messages.

Never wait 30 minutes for a date.

Pick a place which has a good view of the entry from the parking lot. Show up early and wait for her to arrive, THEN go in. If she doesn't show, don't go in.

Whatever you do, don't go to a private residence for the first meeting. That's either a catfish or a setup to get yourself into trouble.

[Madaboutmax]

I've recently got back into the bowl after taking more than a year off. My impression is that Sugaring and Seeking has been growing in popularity with young women. Many more youtube channels and blogs sharing strategies and successes on how to make "easy money" from " Sugar Daddy's" with our giving up any sugar. It's all made SDs seem like impersonal bots that no one should feel bad about wasting their time, misleading them or maximizing the $s they extract.

I see a lot more Platonic Only, Online Only, GPS profiles and straight escorts. I also see a lot more profiles in total. It takes more work to find a good match, but the choice has increased and good matches can still be found. The propaganda has poisoned many potentially good SBs.

In the last several weeks, I've had as many last-minute ghosts as I've had the prior five years I've been on SA. There's no particular pattern that I can see. One I had been talking to for a couple of weeks, and we were supposed to meet for lunch and then move to a hotel if we liked each other; my last text from her was the night before the proposed meeting, but the next morning, she didn't respond to texts, and I haven't heard from her since, although she's been on SA. One had given me the address of her apartment and told me to text her when I was there. I texted her from the parking lot, and she told me what apartment to ring. I rang a few times and got no response. I left, and about two hours later got a text asking me what had happened. The most recent was just an M&G at a restaurant. We had been trying to set something up for a couple of weeks, and we texted back and forth confirming the time and place the morning of; I went to the restaurant and waited for almost 30 minutes before ordering food for myself and having a solo lunch. Each of these incidents involved arranged times and places, and the latter two involved my actually going to the appointed place. I'm wondering whether I'm just having bad luck (fortunately, I've also had some good luck recently, too), or whether there's some kind of new sport where girls play games like this to feel like they have some power.

These events are more serious than the regular ghosting that occurs when someone you've been talking to stops responding to your messages. These cases involved my arranging time off of work and a fair amount of time driving around. Has anyone else noticed such a pattern?

[LoVecchio]

In the last several weeks, I've had as many last-minute ghosts as I've had the prior five years I've been on SA. There's no particular pattern that I can see. One I had been talking to for a couple of weeks, and we were supposed to meet for lunch and then move to a hotel if we liked each other; my last text from her was the night before the proposed meeting, but the next morning, she didn't respond to texts, and I haven't heard from her since, although she's been on SA. One had given me the address of her apartment and told me to text her when I was there. I texted her from the parking lot, and she told me what apartment to ring. I rang a few times and got no response. I left, and about two hours later got a text asking me what had happened. The most recent was just an M&G at a restaurant. We had been trying to set something up for a couple of weeks, and we texted back and forth confirming the time and place the morning of; I went to the restaurant and waited for almost 30 minutes before ordering food for myself and having a solo lunch. Each of these incidents involved arranged times and places, and the latter two involved my actually going to the appointed place. I'm wondering whether I'm just having bad luck (fortunately, I've also had some good luck recently, too), or whether there's some kind of new sport where girls play games like this to feel like they have some power.

These events are more serious than the regular ghosting that occurs when someone you've been talking to stops responding to your messages. These cases involved my arranging time off of work and a fair amount of time driving around. Has anyone else noticed such a pattern?

[DoggieFan]

I just logged in, guess they didn't get busted after all!

I'm sure if they do get taken down someday, everyone gets a refund LOL.

[DogBert77]

Anyone else having problems logging into SA today. I keep getting a message that login from my network is temporarily restricted.

I just logged in, guess they didn't get busted after all!

[DogBert77]

Anyone else having problems logging into SA today. I keep getting a message that login from my network is temporarily restricted.

I got the same message just now:

"Sorry, login from this network is temporarily restricted. Please try again later, or use a different network. For further information, contact customer support. ".

I always login using Chrome Incognito mode using a VPN (TunnelBear) with a US IP address. I am wondering if the VPN is a problem? Are other people getting the same message without using a VPN?

[KnoxOle]

I am having the same issue. Looks like the site is temporarily down.

Try WiFi.

They know the issue.

I tried to contact their customer service.

https://www.seeking.com/help/faq

[DrSummer]

I am having the same issue. Looks like the site is temporarily down.

Anyone else having problems logging into SA today. I keep getting a message that login from my network is temporarily restricted.

[GolfMan57]

Anyone else having problems logging into SA today. I keep getting a message that login from my network is temporarily restricted.

[ClamDigger69]

If you haven't discovered this podcast, it is like a PHD into the inner sexual thoughts of two hot twenty somethings. There's a ton of info you can use to up your Sugaring game.

Call Her Daddy is a podcast of two very sexual young beauties living in NYC. Their topics range from how girls can give a life changing BBBJ, tips for guys to becoming a master at eating pussy, to a variety of other subjects.

They mention sugaring some but it's not the main topic. I like that they promote having a BF & SD. That being pampered by a SD isn't cheating, but don't tell your BF. That increases the fish in the sea for us.

Having had a gorgeous SB with a live in BF who eventually became her fianc, I'm all for that. Heck, we even stayed together eight months after she got engaged! I loved that she was so open with me about him. I even met him a couple of times sitting at the bar in the restaurant where she waitressed. He wouldn't have guessed in a million years when talking to me, that I had been with her for five hours in my hotel suite, earlier that day, popped three times in her ass! She was less than half my age.

One of the most valuable ones for me was about texting tricks, use of Instagram as a trolling tool, how to get your girl to do BGG, three way, etc.

I've literally messed up more than once with Babies due to my texting style, too needy. This advice would have been gold to me.

The podcasts are funny as shit, I love listening to them on long drives. Hope the link works. I'm about half way through.

Be sure to start at episode one. About 5 or 6 in they got hired by Barstool Sports.

https://podtail.com/en/podcast/call-her-daddy/

Have a 45 min commute each day there and back so this will be great to pick up some pointers on! Thanks for the link!

[DoggieFan]

If you haven't discovered this podcast, it is like a PHD into the inner sexual thoughts of two hot twenty somethings. There's a ton of info you can use to up your Sugaring game.

Call Her Daddy is a podcast of two very sexual young beauties living in NYC. Their topics range from how girls can give a life changing BBBJ, tips for guys to becoming a master at eating pussy, to a variety of other subjects.

They mention sugaring some but it's not the main topic. I like that they promote having a BF & SD. That being pampered by a SD isn't cheating, but don't tell your BF. That increases the fish in the sea for us.

Having had a gorgeous SB with a live in BF who eventually became her fiancé, I'm all for that. Heck, we even stayed together eight months after she got engaged! I loved that she was so open with me about him. I even met him a couple of times sitting at the bar in the restaurant where she waitressed. He wouldn't have guessed in a million years when talking to me, that I had been with her for five hours in my hotel suite, earlier that day, popped three times in her ass! She was less than half my age.

One of the most valuable ones for me was about texting tricks, use of Instagram as a trolling tool, how to get your girl to do BGG, three way, etc.

I've literally messed up more than once with Babies due to my texting style, too needy. This advice would have been gold to me.

The podcasts are funny as shit, I love listening to them on long drives. Hope the link works. I'm about half way through.

Be sure to start at episode one. About 5 or 6 in they got hired by Barstool Sports.

https://podtail.com/en/podcast/call-her-daddy/

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I used a One Vanilla gift card yesterday with no problems. Just go on One Vanilla website and register an email for the gift card first. I have been doing this every month without any issues, don't know why others are reporting it doesn't work.

I agree.

Vanilla cards work 100% of the time if you use them properly.

Buy the $100 card, not the variable amount cards, not the reloadable card. Register it on the Vanilla website using any information you want. Just make sure to use a real Zip Code.

Then go to SA and apply payment using the same information you used to register on Vanilla's site.

When you finish, the card will have $10 left on it. Take the card to a gas station and swipe it. The pump will let you drain the remaining balance in gas.

[DogBert77]

It was a fixed $ amount card, not one that you reload. That might make a differencer.

Likewise, I always use a fixed dollar amount card, maybe that is the difference.

[Ernest Ll]

What payment method is currently used, I read reports that the Visa vanilla cards no longer work?

It was a fixed $ amount card, not one that you reload. That might make a differencer.

[BookerTNelson]

So I have been texting a college freshmen for over a month now without meeting face to face. She says she hasn't met anyone from Seeking yet and indeed her online status shows she hasn't logged in within the last 3 weeks. As one would expect she was a bit over whelmed from the number of and the content of some of the messages she got. Her story is pretty much the same as many. Bored with the immature guys her age and out of money with no summer job lined up yet. Seems as I have made the final cut of men she is still chatting with from her contacts on Seeking.

This morning she asked me the same question she asked a month ago. Why was I contacting 18 year olds and not older women? My age shows as 57 on SA. I pretty much repeated what I said when I first messaged her that I found women who have been on SA a long time to be just looking for the guy with deepest pocket and not so much interested in a connection. I added this time that since we have been chatting back and forth several times weekly that we had found some common interests that spans our age difference. The fact that were are still chatting and neither of us has moved on says that we should make that last step and meet up once school is out next week. She agreed and said she was ready for a summer of fun with me. No mention of money in any of our previous messages and I made it clear back when we were messaging through SA that I expected intimacy in an arrangement. So I really expected her to not ever meet and be just another who just liked to talk.

I am curious what you guys that regularly have success with the young ones are doing to seal the deal with them. At least with this one, I think I was the Last Man Standing or was the one who didn't push the issue and let her seek me in the end.

So, texting for that long is a no-no for me. Its just a never ending cycle of messages I've found and I never want to feel like I "wore her down" in regards to finally meeting. I ask for a meeting asap, I don't discuss ANYTHING if we aren't face to face. Example, I re-upped on SA for the summer push and sent out my flood of initial messages. Of those that returned, one mentions that she's a little tired from a long weekend "blah blah blah", I simply ask to meet for coffee on her lunch break to help give her a boost for the rest of her shift. We meet at starbucks, have some conversations around what we both want / looking for etc. She goes and finishes her shift, about an hour later she sends a message saying she thinks we connected, I ask if she wants to visit me after work. End of the story spent 2 hours in the FC, same day.

I don't have the time to spend a month or two bouncing back and forth with them and they expect you to be in control of the situation because you're older.