Massage Parlor Reports

[Rudiger]

If there is an active investigation, LEO can pull you over to interrogate you on that. They don't need to stop you on a pretense of a minor traffic violation. LEO quite often will be very clear as to what they are investigating and why YOU were pulled over. Be very careful what you say to LEO, it can come back to bite you later.

Good ACLU article on LEO stops: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-right...-agents-or-fbi.

I wonder if that is why GG is now closed: LEO harassing customers after a pleasant visit. Maybe BO and KMP are on their radar too? Be safe.

IIRC, the whole 5th Amendment thing about keeping silent is about self-incrimination. So, I suspect the way they're trained is that when someone clams up, it's tantamount to an admission of guilt. Believe me, they definitely don't like it when you won't talk to them (it's a loss of control, the primary thing they're trained to have 100% of the time) and instantly escalates the situation to where they will do everything they can possibly think of to make your life miserable after that, up to and including citing you for every minor traffic violation. You and your vehicle will likely be searched, including having a dog sniff where the dog 'alerts' to make it all legal. So, just be prepared for the 'full monty' when you decide to stay silent.

The bottom line is, during any interaction with LE, you're going to lose. It just depends on how much. If you're lucky, all you'll lose is some self-respect as you have to sit there and take it as some asshole cop berates and feels you and your vehicle up. If you're not lucky, you'll get cited, arrested, or even shot.

[SplitLickity1]

Well, it was fun while it lasted during Snow Era. Went there couple nights ago, the new mamasan stated she's Snow sister. I don't believe her one bit. I think new management took over and we no longer have the The Real Omecca of all Asian Spa as the Original BO has finally shutdown/retired like GG. It's unfortunate and don't be too excited with the white girl ot any new staff there. She's your typical non asian shop you would see at a non asian parlor and not attractive at all. During TS, uses actual loofa to clean. Yeah I know. Shocked the hell out of me LOL. Everything was covered before the main dish. Ugh. I think someone ratted on Snow or her staff and they had to move out. Hopefully they come back to a new location or new area!! Guy can only wish for.

Does anyone know what happen or if the OG Snow staff has moved to another location?

I stopped in there this morning and was greeted by the new mamasan Sara (I think). Told her I wanted to see Nikole so she walked me to one of the rooms and about a minute later in walks Nikole. Very nice looking Chinese girl with a killer body and perfect tits. We went to the TS and the first thing I noticed was she was still in her dress. While in there she told me that BO was sold and all of the original crew was gone. Plus the new owners made the girls stop all of the B2 B antics in the TS so all you get now is the standard cleansing plus a BBBJ preview. That's the bad news. The good news is everything thing else seemed pretty much op to par with the old BO protocol. Total GFE just like any other time and this girl's body was freaking incredible. She wasn't mechanical at all with me and it was very obvious that she had as much fun as I did. I did see the white girl in there but did not see the third girl who I was told was Korean. I was sad to see that Snow and the original girls were gone but all in all I still had a good time.

[LongWhiskers]

I thought there might be stops at other AMPs also, but there are no posts here or in other forums about people being stopped by police after visiting any of these places. I would expect that with all the media buzz, if police were doing this at any other locations in Florida we would be reading about some of the stops in these forums. I know a lot of the AMP customers may not use this website, but surely there would be one or two reports.

I'm guessing the owners of these places aren't going to be 100% truthful with customers as to reasons for closing or changing business models. Even if you have some private phone numbers of girls or such and think you are "in the know", trust me, you aren't. You are seen as a customer, and outsider, and a legal liability (as an informant) when it comes to the real inside information. Even the girls there are not given access to the keys of the kingdom, they are employees and the owner / operators are not going to open the books to them either for the same reasons.

[Gentleman 100]

They will always find probable cause. Roll through a stop sign, 46 in a 45, tail or tag light out, failure to signal. The possibilities are endless. They can talk to you about anything they like. You don't have to answer but from what we've seen, plenty of people do. It is designed to be tough to keep quiet.

Have yet to see any human traffickers get arrested. Makes for a nice story though.

If there is an active investigation, LEO can pull you over to interrogate you on that. They don't need to stop you on a pretense of a minor traffic violation. LEO quite often will be very clear as to what they are investigating and why YOU were pulled over. Be very careful what you say to LEO, it can come back to bite you later.

Good ACLU article on LEO stops: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-right...-agents-or-fbi.

I wonder if that is why GG is now closed: LEO harassing customers after a pleasant visit. Maybe BO and KMP are on their radar too? Be safe.

[LongWhiskers]

I don't understand how LE can pull someone over for no reason. I always thought you had to have committed some sort of traffic violation, lame as it might be (failure to signal lane change, come to complete stop behind white line, etc.). Then, I don't understand how they can question you about anything unrelated to the reason for the traffic stop ("What are you doing?

The whole thing stinks like hell and seems like it's ridiculously easy to perform a completely legal, gross abuse of power and harassment, but maybe that's just me.

I agree with you and so do the courts. The police cannot pull you over for no reason, that's why traffic stops are often challenged in court to have evidence suppressed. Like others have said, its very easy for an experienced officer to notice something in violation; something hanging from the rear view mirror obstructing view, improper lane change, etc.

It's when they start asking questions outside of the traffic stop that should raise the red flags, where were you coming from? I saw you were coming out of that massage place, etc. At that point it should be obvious the stop, even if valid, was just a ruse. If it sounds like they are making an inquiry in to criminal activity, tell them you are not making any statements and would like to consult with an attorney privately. You do not need to have an attorney already lined up or even know one. Just deal with that later.

Even if you have an attorney's number, the cops are not going to let you call during the stop, and even if they did, what would the attorney say? - Don't talk to the police! Tell them you have retained me as counsel and I have instructed you not to talk to police.

Don't say anything. The police are already 100% certain of what happened, (and they may be wrong!) so making any statements cannot help your situation. If they have the evidence to charge you they probably will whether you say something or not. Once you realize the questions are not related to a simple traffic stop, just tell the police you are not going to answer any questions without first consulting with an attorney. And don't answer any questions.

If they ask you 1,000 times say you want to consult privately with an attorney 1,000 times back. This goes for any criminal investigation, not just prostitution.

[Old City Joe]

I don't understand how LE can pull someone over for no reason. I always thought you had to have committed some sort of traffic violation, lame as it might be (failure to signal lane change, come to complete stop behind white line, etc.). Then, I don't understand how they can question you about anything unrelated to the reason for the traffic stop ("What are you doing?

The whole thing stinks like hell and seems like it's ridiculously easy to perform a completely legal, gross abuse of power and harassment, but maybe that's just me.

They will always find probable cause. Roll through a stop sign, 46 in a 45, tail or tag light out, failure to signal. The possibilities are endless. They can talk to you about anything they like. You don't have to answer but from what we've seen, plenty of people do. It is designed to be tough to keep quiet.

Have yet to see any human traffickers get arrested. Makes for a nice story though.

[Foxdodgeit]

Took a drive on Saturday and ended up at Natural Therapy. Place seemed dead on a Saturday afternoon. Got Angie, 50 ish Korean woman who gave an above average massage with pleasant hand relief. Standard costs involved. Good option if you want a real massage plus.

[Rudiger]

Some sound advice for fellow hobbyists visting an AMP (especially BO />U</ KMP / GG (now closed)): be on the lookout for what may be an undercover LEO. It is now common for LEO to park near a top-tier AMP and do a John Stop: pull over the client and ask what happened in there.

My strong advice: do not provide any information to LEO (ever). It can be used against you later. You cannot be arrested AND convicted for entering a building (AMP). Just provide the basics: Name and I. D. That is it. If you must, state the obvious: "I went inside for 1 hour, and now I am leaving. ".

I hear that even one of my favorite places, Luxsa, has been targeted. I have not heard independents being targeted (too small a fish).

Be careful and be wise.

Info: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/p...--1030937.html.

I don't understand how LE can pull someone over for no reason. I always thought you had to have committed some sort of traffic violation, lame as it might be (failure to signal lane change, come to complete stop behind white line, etc.). Then, I don't understand how they can question you about anything unrelated to the reason for the traffic stop ("What are you doing?

The whole thing stinks like hell and seems like it's ridiculously easy to perform a completely legal, gross abuse of power and harassment, but maybe that's just me.

[Gentleman 100]

Some sound advice for fellow hobbyists visting an AMP (especially BO />U</ KMP / GG (now closed)): be on the lookout for what may be an undercover LEO. It is now common for LEO to park near a top-tier AMP and do a John Stop: pull over the client and ask what happened in there.

My strong advice: do not provide any information to LEO (ever). It can be used against you later. You cannot be arrested AND convicted for entering a building (AMP). Just provide the basics: Name and I. D. That is it. If you must, state the obvious: "I went inside for 1 hour, and now I am leaving. ".

I hear that even one of my favorite places, Luxsa, has been targeted. I have not heard independents being targeted (too small a fish).

Be careful and be wise.

Info: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/p...--1030937.html.

[Watcher5150]

Thanks for the tip. I've seen in the thread how Tara / Jenna charged a bit much compared to others, although I never had the experience. Didn't realize Nikki was part of that crew. I will have to check out Deva. Assume she isn't as pricey.

Really missing Backpage. I know some other sites have tried to fill the void, but that was a treasure trove of independent providers.

I'm right there with you! Personally don't care for AMPs.

But Nikki used to work with Tara and Jenna. Gorgeous girl great massage normal finish but rates are high just for HE I haven't seen her since they left the old office maybe she readjusted her pricing not sure. Have you tried Deva? Good massage with normal finish.

[SammFunGuy]

If she's on vaca. Then its going to be a long vaca. If you're an OG cust. You'll noticed the place has changed inside. As if trying to make cust believe its a new BO with new staff and management. You can tell already they inly have 2 staff members instead the usual 4 or 5. Bad sign when theres non asian in the mix. Diff ts exp. In a bad way. You do get somewhat normal service & price of $$ but the wuality & the exp is completely different and disappointment compare to prev. Regime. No longer GFE. Just mechanical and mundane.

Recently had a dream about visiting BO. Not seeing Snow answer the door definitely seems strange. It was this old mamasan with short curly hair. She leads me to the room and tells me only 3 girls working and that I would have to wait. Nicole, Rita?, and the white girl. I asked what happened to everyone and she tells me everyone is on vacation. Not sure what that means but it doesn't feels the same. I go into room and used a flashlight to check the ceilings and corners. Didn't find anything suspicious. Wondering about the devices that detect hidden cameras. The recent article about the planting cameras under the news forum shows the cameras being directly above the beds. As I'm doing this I hear a monger releasing next door. So fucking loud. Anyways, Rita comes in to greet me and I tell her I don't want to see her. Mamasan comes back in to and gives me a refund and I woke up.

Stay safe. SFG.

[DaMachine9]

I called there last night woman said that Snow was on vacation. So how close to the normal services did you receive if any?

If she's on vaca. Then its going to be a long vaca. If you're an OG cust. You'll noticed the place has changed inside. As if trying to make cust believe its a new BO with new staff and management. You can tell already they inly have 2 staff members instead the usual 4 or 5. Bad sign when theres non asian in the mix. Diff ts exp. In a bad way. You do get somewhat normal service & price of $$ but the wuality & the exp is completely different and disappointment compare to prev. Regime. No longer GFE. Just mechanical and mundane.

[Nudeed]

Well, it was fun while it lasted during Snow Era. Went there couple nights ago, the new mamasan stated she's Snow sister. I don't believe her one bit. I think new management took over and we no longer have the The Real Omecca of all Asian Spa as the Original BO has finally shutdown/retired like GG. It's unfortunate and don't be too excited with the white girl ot any new staff there. She's your typical non asian shop you would see at a non asian parlor and not attractive at all. During TS, uses actual loofa to clean. Yeah I know. Shocked the hell out of me LOL. Everything was covered before the main dish. Ugh. I think someone ratted on Snow or her staff and they had to move out. Hopefully they come back to a new location or new area!! Guy can only wish for.

Does anyone know what happen or if the OG Snow staff has moved to another location?

I called there last night woman said that Snow was on vacation. So how close to the normal services did you receive if any?

[Nudeed]

I know I have posted this a while back but has anyone had any luck at the massage place on 436 all most across the street from that new Wawa by McDonald's the place has a red awning on it. It's labeled as altamonte massage on rm trying other places. From what I read asahi has jacked their "donation" up for the same service. And this morning traveling down 436 by wymore my dream spa led lights in the window that are ALWAYS on are now off are they closed? I'll check it out later today and fined out. Tokyo is still closed thy probably fled after everything that has been going on. Below is a list that if you been their don't that pm or reply of the findings most of these have not been talked about.

Posh fusion in Sanford on 46 other side of I-4.

Moonlight lake Mary on 17/92 near college.

Emma in lake Mary.

Gikku in Longwood (I have drove by different times of the day and no lights then other days all lite up and a car or 2 in drive.

Thanks.

Play safe.

If the place you are asking about is on the west bound side of 436, just west of 17/92 it's really not worth the stop. Asian woman, who's not at all attractive, and a little over weight, plus not much English. Only has a stand up shower that you do yourself, and no ending. One upside she does a decent massage and it's only 45 bucks.

[AncientOne]

When Yuki is there, and don't ask me how, but she fucking elevates the rest of girls. Even Mona, who at one was my ATF. Without her, the service just isn't there. There's no ooomf in any of the girls. Stopped in and was greeted by Mona, asked for Yuki but I guess she's out of town again. Should've turned around and returned when she did, but Mona started giving me the poutiy lips and I caved. Regret it. Gawd Orlando was once the Mecca Of Asian pussy but now it's drying out. I text Pandora, but she's out in Cali with no dates on a return.

With no basis of comparison, can't comment on comparisons within WB but I drew Linda. Probably the best natural set of Tata's on an Asian ever. Good TS and BBBJ. Love the huge mirror in the room! Only downside was I hit the place at a busy time of day apparently and Linda was in and out of room way too much and that was after they'd kept me waiting too long. Won't repeat only because its so far away from my world in North Orlando. Did the 45 minute option plus tip brought it to the exact same price, a fair price, as BO.