Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[AdamP469]

Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?

I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.

Before the app and website changed, I found 3 relationships of various lengths with "poly" chicks on OK Cupid. My last ongoing relationship from there, which lasted about a year and a half, ended in Feb. When the girl moved out of state. I have had no luck yet with finding another free online dating site that works as well as the old OKC site did for locating women who want to hookup with married men. I suppose there are some sites that require paid memberships that may serve that demographic, but after Ashley Madison was exposed as being basically a fraud, I'm not eager to pay money just to get my hopes up for nothing. I'd rather put money towards a sure thing, instead.

[Fatmando]

I've had five dreams in a row thwarted by the crickets. I just don't get it. Here's a list of the providers lately that I've tried where no dream came to be:

Paige. Been wanting to try her for two months. Got a reply one time in 20 attempts and then nothing after.

Seen her once and enjoyed myself, the other time I drove to her place ( where I did not feel comfortable) and she said that she had no bed and went crickets

Allurah. Read a couple good reviews so I tried. Zilch.
Same here

Cookie. Finally heard from her after 5 tries. Not available until later apparently.
Tried many times to no avail

Jesse Jane. Two attempts. Nothing.

Envy. Four attempts. Nothing.
I tried for over a month and got no response

LexiLauren. My last dream two months ago. Nothing now.

A handful more that I don't recall now. Crickets!

Any recommendations? Rant over.

Paige. Been wanting to try her for two months. Got a reply one time in 20 attempts and then nothing after.

Seen her once and enjoyed myself, the other time I drove to her place (where I did not feel comfortable) and she said that she had no bed and went crickets.

Allurah. Read a couple good reviews so I tried. Zilch.

Same here.

Cookie. Finally heard from her after 5 tries. Not available until later apparently.

Tried many times to no avail.

Envy. Four attempts. Nothing.

I tried for over a month and got no response.

[WanderingAbout]

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Po...507833721.html

[LoveBeer]

In my (painful) experience, a non-escort hookup is actually more risk. It's almost impossible that someone doesn't end up wanting more which leads to trouble / confrontation.

Risk doubles if she has a SO.

The Arrangements / Benefits sites are an option. I had decent luck on there (although one of the ladies was essentially an escort). You're paying, so it's still mostly a business transaction, but I feel like I got lucky and met a couple of ladies who were also married (in open marriages) so it felt like no one was going to be looking for more than what we had.

[Vinnie Kramer]

In my (painful) experience, a non-escort hookup is actually more risk. It's almost impossible that someone doesn't end up wanting more which leads to trouble / confrontation.

Risk doubles if she has a SO.

If you want to stay married don't play with married or single women who know you are married outside the hobby. Yes you might get very lucky and meet a nympho, but chances are the receptive women will eventually want something more from you. I have had opportunities but not pursued because the women are unhappy with their lives and will eventually seek more from you. And so ends your marriage. So unless you are so attractive that all women just want a chance to bed such a gorgeous hunk of a man, don't do it.

KC.

[Simp4ebony]

Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?

I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.

I've seen friends have their girlfriends eventually get pissed and confront wife. I'm not trying to have anything remotely like that even be possible. Well worth the price of admission, in my view. (Plus, at my age and physical level, I'd never make girlfriends with hot black girls in their 20's!)

[Tickle Jay]

I'm in the same boat. But there are fewer and fewer Hobby Girls here that I feel comfortable with. Side pieces can cause trouble, and no one is going to approach me looking for a good time. Fortunately, I get a few out of state trips, and plan my fun there. I'm only a couple weeks away from a trip to see some outstanding Asian girls. It's a tough market in which to get verified, so I'm doing my homework in order to make the most of it.

Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across ver.y many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?

I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.

[Kc148]

If you want to stay married don't play with married or single women who know you are married outside the hobby. Yes you might get very lucky and meet a nympho, but chances are the receptive women will eventually want something more from you. I have had opportunities but not pursued because the women are unhappy with their lives and will eventually seek more from you. And so ends your marriage. So unless you are so attractive that all women just want a chance to bed such a gorgeous hunk of a man, don't do it.

KC.

Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?

I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?

I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.

[MarblesKyle]

I've had five dreams in a row thwarted by the crickets. I just don't get it. Here's a list of the providers lately that I've tried where no dream came to be:

Paige. Been wanting to try her for two months. Got a reply one time in 20 attempts and then nothing after.

Allurah. Read a couple good reviews so I tried. Zilch.

Cookie. Finally heard from her after 5 tries. Not available until later apparently.

Jesse Jane. Two attempts. Nothing.

Envy. Four attempts. Nothing.

LexiLauren. My last dream two months ago. Nothing now.

A handful more that I don't recall now. Crickets!

Any recommendations? Rant over.

You aren't alone. I've not seen any of them, yet I've tried to contact half of them. I'd add Kyla to that list, at least for me. Over probably 5 attempts to contact her, she has responded once. There was a little back and fourth and then crickets. I know she's in demand so I'm not terribly shocked or bothered. I'll keep trying here and there and see if I hit.

I've come the closest with Allurah, but lately our schedules just aren't lining up. I'll go 2-3 days without a response and then try again and she'll randomly respond. She cancelled a few dreams on me a few months back, and one of them was last minute. Frustrating, but it is what it is. I imagine these girls are bombarded by text messages 24/7 so I try to cut them some slack.

I've never gotten a response from Kookie or Envy. I stopped trying. Was really trying to get Kookie just based on the good reviews, that body type doesn't really excite me, nor do all the stories I've heard about Uncle LEO being a big part of her life.

I'll keep trying with Allurah. Although communication has always been spotty with her, in her defense I have cancelled a dream with her too, so it probably could have happened once. Hopefully I make something happen in the next few weeks. Maybe she gets better once she knows ya.

I'm new to the local game but it's been frustrating thus far. In about 8 dreams I'd say one or two have lived up to their hype. Hard to tell what you are really getting into until you show up at the door. I've seen glowing reviews on dreams that I wouldn't take if they were free, and I'm no prize either. Different strokes, I guess. I'm not going to flame any providers, none of them have been rude to me. I've felt safe in most experiences. None of them ripped me off, etc. I'll keep grinding, there's good ones out there, you just got to find them.

Let's face it, if they were 9's and 10's with clean and safe incalls they wouldn't be SW's.

Keep your head up and stay safe.

[Twisted69]

Just posted the story about Portsmouth over in the news section. This follows Robert Kraft's arrest at what very likely was a human trafficking operation in Florida.
She didn't seem like a victim that night, because she was pretty happy with how things turned out. But I also felt sorry for her.

Through my time in the hobby I have had several tell me that they got started looking for a high and that they were then given harder stuff by dealers to get them hooked for free, then made them do the dealers favors till they were trained, then sent out in the streets to start earning to pay for their new habit.

[EastSideGuy34]

I've had five dreams in a row thwarted by the crickets. I just don't get it. Here's a list of the providers lately that I've tried where no dream came to be:

Paige. Been wanting to try her for two months. Got a reply one time in 20 attempts and then nothing after.

Allurah. Read a couple good reviews so I tried. Zilch.

Cookie. Finally heard from her after 5 tries. Not available until later apparently.

Jesse Jane. Two attempts. Nothing.

Envy. Four attempts. Nothing.

LexiLauren. My last dream two months ago. Nothing now.

A handful more that I don't recall now. Crickets!

Any recommendations? Rant over.

[WhereDreamsGo]

Just posted the story about Portsmouth over in the news section. This follows Robert Kraft's arrest at what very likely was a human trafficking operation in Florida. There too while the feds bloviated about "human trafficking," they seem to have done little or nothing to go after the actual traffickers bringing women into the country either by coercion or deception. That's because these folks I suspect operate very much above the law or beyond the law, such as the Chinese woman who used to own that spa Kraft got busted at, was also watching the Super Bowl with Trump at Mar-a-Lago this year, and is a frequent Republican fundraiser, who is also quite possibly a Chinese government agent who uses massage parlors or connections to their operators to ingratiate herself to powerful people or get compromising information on them. Kraft and the other guys are getting offered a plea deal where they don't even plea guilty or get a conviction on their records, even though they've got apparently legit video of them all doing the entire transaction multiple times. I will bet no one seriously upstream in the "trafficking" operation ever gets busted.

All this crap is one reason I've never been a fan, or a user, of AMPs, and why I stopped seeing any providers, be they Asian or East European or Latina, who don't speak English, or not very well, and who I suspect may be trafficked. It's one reason, besides the additional hassle often involved, that I don't use third-party services, at least knowingly.

I do remember like the second provider I ever saw. It was in New Orleans. I was close to completely ignorant. Called some service and they said they were sending out a Malaysian girl. I was expecting Asian Malaysian, but she was very dark skinned, African / Indian Malaysian. But what the hell, she was there. I was dumb enough to be trying to pay with a credit card, though, and it wouldn't go. I didn't have the cash and told them sorry, next time. But after the girl got off the phone, she basically offered to do it for the cash I had on hand, off the books from her handlers. We both had a good time. She called her handlers after and they didn't have anyone for the rest of the night. She didn't really have anywhere else to go, it didn't sound like, and the hotel was nice, so she asked to just spend the night. I liked her, so said OK, she did, left in the morning, no problem. Not sure whatever happened to her. She didn't seem like a victim that night, because she was pretty happy with how things turned out. But I also felt sorry for her.

[Golden3]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is RENU?

Regional Enforcement Narcotics Unit.

[Cincyfunguy]

Let's hope that none of our favorite providers were busted today when RENU went out to play.

MM.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is RENU?