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  1. #27163

    Mia. Insights

    Since we can't search on 3 letter words can someone please share or PM me insight on Mia.

    Thanks in advance.

    https://www.adultlook.com/p/2932082

  2. #27162
    Quote Originally Posted by DominicanPete  [View Original Post]
    https://www.wptv.com/news/region-n-p...hidden-cameras

    Good read. The police took intel from this site as part of their effort to secure a warrant.
    Interesting. Here's the quote below from the article where they mention this site. How dare they call us "illicit", A2 should sue them for libel, LOL.

    The warrants also reveal detectives relied on two illicit massage parlor locator websites for leads: RubMaps.com and USASexGuide.nl. Lead investigator Andrew Sharp included screenshots from the site, with reviews specifically about rub and tugs at Orchids of Asia.

  3. #27161
    That is the regular way that they re supposed to do it. Getting a sneak and peek is skipping that step. I have a feeling their warrant will be thrown out. Other, less intrusive means available.

  4. #27160

    Cherry Blossom GRAND (re) OPENING! - Buyer Beware?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiat2001  [View Original Post]
    I drove by after reading something about CB reopening soon. If true then I would avoid that place due to recent reports. Stay safe.
    Electing to avoid patronizing any new establishment housed in the same building as the former Cherry Blossom Spa is probably wise for any of a number of reasons, just as the "re-opening" may, itself, be the only logical next step for the facility.

    The certifiably paranoid may come to a "logical" conclusion that this could ONLY be a sting operation set up by LE as a honey-trap to lure in client "johns" for prosecution. If that were true, I might suggest the well-informed customer seek alternative establishments for anything more than a simple back massage.

    On the other hand, the obliviously optimistic may observe that the entire facility is set up for showers and tiny massage rooms, making any other use of the building a costly endeavor to totally gut / remodel everything from wall-to-wall. The least-cost tenant for a landlord to attract (one who can use the building "as-is") is going to be another spa / massage type place. However, with the watchful eye of the Health Department, not to mention LE, leaning heavily on the entire operation, a logical assumption would be that any spa / massage type place going into that particular address is most likely going to be REQUIRED to keep to the straight-and-narrow legitimate business model. If THAT were true, I might STILL suggest that the well informed customer seek alternative establishments for anything more than a simple back massage!

    Either way, I'm not inclined to go there.

    Interestingly, a similar situation has popped up in Tampa on Kennedy Blvd. Some readers here will recall a local Tampa "news" reporter doing an expose' on all the spas on Kennedy Blvd and how they are "obviously" dens of prostitution. From that grew a local church-bourne morality group of self-righteous do-gooders seeking to "Clean Up Kennedy" (that's even the name of their FB page), who actually picketed outside one of the more popular and well-reviewed AMPs (kinda like CB used to be). The building turned out to be owned by some former city-connected guy, so this group also tried to shame the landlord into taking actions counter to his personal business interests (i.e. to evict a paying tenant and, as a result, go without income while maintaining the expense of property ownership). The business actually elected to leave on their own, due to the public pressure of picketers, etc. , and the building was vacant for some time (kinda like CB used to be). Recently, a new spa / massage type place has opened in the same building (kinda like CB), ostensibly for all the same logical business reasons described above regarding use of a facility so equipped. I think the new sign out front of this Tampa place says something like "Foot Massage", but it's clearly an Asian Massage Parlor. That said, for all the same reasons also cited above, many potential clients may be of the belief that it's either some sort of expensive LE sting, or (more likely if you ask me) the establishment will be on the straight-and-narrow legitimate business model and I doubt they'll be getting much business from well-read, well informed mongers in the Tampa area!

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  6. #27158

    Kms or you massage.

    First time in Orlando area and looking to go for a massage. Which one of these places would you recommend and the cost.

  7. #27157

    Correcting Misinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiat2001  [View Original Post]
    I drove by after reading something about CB reopening soon. If true then I would avoid that place due to recent reports. Stay safe.
    Actually, the truth is that CB was closed down voluntarily to regroup after lesser competitors attacked (called LEO). The licenses are valid and in order (I checked). When it reopens, I will certainly visit as often as my wallet allows me to.

    Be safe.

  8. #27156
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsetrader  [View Original Post]
    Don't try to make up a story, if they disprove your story in court you are in deep trouble. Don't fall for bait such as "If you tell me everything, you can go home now."
    I agree. Any good lawyer or police officer will tell you that if they were questioned as a suspect, they would also remain silent an ask for an attorney. If they would do it, you should too.

  9. #27155
    Quote Originally Posted by LongWhiskers  [View Original Post]
    Some misunderstanding here about traffic stops and making statements;.

    1) Police DO NOT have to read you Miranda warnings (your rights) unless you are a.) in custody and b.) being questioned. For practical reasons that means whatever you volunteer during a routine traffic stop or other police inquiry can be used against you. Do not say anything if questioned about potential criminal activity. The police know that most people are confused about this and they will exploit it because they know it might be their only bite at the apple.
    Don't try to make up a story, if they disprove your story in court you are in deep trouble. Don't fall for bait such as "If you tell me everything, you can go home now."

  10. #27154

    RE: Female Customers

    Quote Originally Posted by FreakMe  [View Original Post]
    I read an article today where the lead detective said for every guy the tracker down 5 got away. Also they had 3 detectives watching live CCTV at headquarters of all the rooms from 9 am to 11 pm. If a female customer entered the building / room they would stop the feed since they were only targeting men. They said the operation listed $400,000.
    I suspect it could be argued that by recording only male clients, the police violated the equal justice under the law clause in the Constitution. By only recording male suspects or not recording all clients whether they are male or female while surveilling illegal activity would be biased policing. That might not pass Constitutional muster and probably shouldn't.

    Shaggy.

  11. #27153

    Most peculiar

    I drove by after reading something about CB reopening soon. If true then I would avoid that place due to recent reports. Stay safe.
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  12. #27152

    Police Stops and Questioning

    Some misunderstanding here about traffic stops and making statements;.

    1) Police DO NOT have to read you Miranda warnings (your rights) unless you are a.) in custody and b.) being questioned. For practical reasons that means whatever you volunteer during a routine traffic stop or other police inquiry can be used against you. Do not say anything if questioned about potential criminal activity. The police know that most people are confused about this and they will exploit it because they know it might be their only bite at the apple.

    2) You MUST provide your identity if asked by police. If stopped for a traffic violation after visiting a spa it may just be a coincidence. If the conversation goes to where you are coming from or what you were doing at the place, then assume the stop was a ruse. Politely say you do not wish to make any statements without first contacting your attorney. If they persist then you can ask if you are free to leave. Do not make any statements other than your identity information. Tell the police you are not willing to make any statements and would like to contact an attorney first for your own protection. Do not try to lie or make up any stories, it will go bad for you quickly. By stating you want an attorney and are not willing to make any statements you are telling the truth and not breaking any law.

    3) The Miranda warning states in part, ". Anything you say can / will be used against you", so if that is the case, what can you possibly say on your behalf, even if you are completely innocent? Nothing! There is nothing in Miranda that states what you say will be used to exonerate or clear you. This warning is telling you that even if you are innocent the police can use your statements against you. So do not say anything. Get an attorney.

    4) If arrested and taken to a police station for booking, do not make any statements other than basic identity, etc. Like the information on your driver license. If police want to give you a chance to tell "your side of the story" tell them you would be willing to but only after first consulting with an attorney. If you are in custody, that means not free to leave, request an attorney. If you are in custody and the police want to ask you questions state you want an attorney. They are not supposed to ask you any questions when in custody and you request an attorney.

    Any lawyer or police officer will tell you that if they were questioned as a suspect they would also remain silent an ask for an attorney. If they would do it, why shouldn't you?

    Kraft has two heavy hitting lawyers. They will try to suppress evidence first because no evidence = no charges. It's always the weakest link. Kraft is only one of a few really rich people charged here, so expect millions of dollars to be spent on simple misdemeanor charge defense due to the embarrassing nature of the crimes.

    The woman who was "trafficked" may turn out to be a willing prostitute that only claimed she was "forced" so as not to be charged as a prostitute. It will be clear under cross-examination later. Forced = trafficked, Willing = smuggled or just a prostitute, but not trafficked.

    Many a fat 50 year-old bald man (nothing personal guys, LOL) has married the 25 year-old Russian Internet bride only to get her a visa and a few months later she leaves him. Organizations like Catholic Social Services will coach them to say they were abused and boom, immigration judge grants them entry based on the victimization. If these "victims" were willing prostitutes and found to be lying to cover their assess then the whole trafficking thing will go down the drain.

    At least one man was already mis-identified by police and the charges dropped against him, that means even though it seems air tight mistakes were still made.

    Why is there no further media coverage or police statements regarding the" armed men" who were transporting the women? They are way more high priority felons than anyone else mentioned so far. Where did they get this information?

    Also curious, I searched the posts here from the affected counties and have not seen one entry of anyone being stopped by police for a traffic violation after visiting a massage parlor. None of the men stopped are members here or from any other location? I would expect to see some, at least posted before they were taken down just out of suspicion. If it were going on now in other counties I would also expect someone would have posted about being stopped.

  13. #27151
    Quote Originally Posted by DominicanPete  [View Original Post]
    https://www.wptv.com/news/region-n-p...hidden-cameras

    Good read. The police took intel from this site as part of their effort to secure a warrant.
    Yup. Exactly.

    Some dodo birds on this site think everything they say is not being used as intel. Cause it was a dream! Lmfao.

  14. #27150

    BO denied

    So I went to BO and found out all the girls were with ONE client. Snow said he was celebrating his bday or something. She asked if I wanted to wait, and I thought about it, also thought having mamasan herself, and she was willing, if a little bit reluctant (said she wasn't a professional, so it wouldn't be as good as if I waited for Rita) and since I like enthusiastim I said I'd come back later. Whoever you are, happy birthday you lucky asshole LOL.

  15. #27149

    Curious about this place

    Anyone here ever heard of or been here? Fairly intriguing.

    https://escortalligator.com.orlando....post/30312326/

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