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  1. #27051

    Building was empty for 3 hours

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianRiver  [View Original Post]
    Interesting to note that Jupiter newspaper says reason for raid that got Kraft arrested was the fact that AMTs were living there. If so then how did LEO install the camera without being seen. They reasoned that since they lived there they must be victims. There is more to this story. Were the cameras watching the girls also and for how long. There has to be privacy issues here or the girls were in on it. Terrible thought.
    The police created a fake bomb scare to vacate the building for several hours while they installed the cameras.

    https://www.salemnews.com/news/local...91cd88107.html

  2. #27050

    Video Surveillance is legal Audio is illegal

    Video surveillance is 100% legal when audio is involved it becomes a crime aka Wire Tapping.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBill469  [View Original Post]
    While we'd all like to think the U.S. Constitution guarantees our right to privacy in any and all circumstances, the legal system is littered with loopholes and justifications to violate that privacy. It's a simple matter of 1.) Probable Cause (real or contrived); 2.) Petition for Warrant; 3.) Friendly or sympathetic judge (what judge is going to argue against SEX SLAVERY); 4.) Warrant issued; 5.) Secret surveillance occurs; 6.) BANG! Arrests are made!

    This is how prosecutors get wire-taps or camera surveillance for mobsters, terrorists, or even the vilest of all criminals, >gasp< people in pursuit of orgasms!

  3. #27049

    Secret Surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianRiver  [View Original Post]
    There has to be privacy issues here or the girls were in on it. Terrible thought.
    While we'd all like to think the U.S. Constitution guarantees our right to privacy in any and all circumstances, the legal system is littered with loopholes and justifications to violate that privacy. It's a simple matter of 1.) Probable Cause (real or contrived); 2.) Petition for Warrant; 3.) Friendly or sympathetic judge (what judge is going to argue against SEX SLAVERY); 4.) Warrant issued; 5.) Secret surveillance occurs; 6.) BANG! Arrests are made!

    This is how prosecutors get wire-taps or camera surveillance for mobsters, terrorists, or even the vilest of all criminals, >gasp< people in pursuit of orgasms!

  4. #27048

    Orchids Spa

    Interesting to note that Jupiter newspaper says reason for raid that got Kraft arrested was the fact that AMTs were living there. If so then how did LEO install the camera without being seen. They reasoned that since they lived there they must be victims. There is more to this story. Were the cameras watching the girls also and for how long. There has to be privacy issues here or the girls were in on it. Terrible thought.

  5. #27047
    Quote Originally Posted by Fred5568  [View Original Post]
    Has anybody visited a AMP in the Casselberry Altamonte or lake Mary since all the issues going on. If so where. If not does anybody know of a independent that does massages at a reasonable rate?

    Thanks be safe.
    I haven't been into any of them but all the ones I see driving up 17-92 from Fern Park up to Lake Mary say they're open. I pass at least 4 along that drive, the most well known is natural.

  6. #27046
    Quote Originally Posted by JustForRubs  [View Original Post]
    Gone pretty quiet here is everyone good? No contact from the uncles for anyone so far?
    I would imagine that if anyone heard from thier uncle, they would be very afraid to post it. So not hearing is not always a good sign. I do agree that some of these places are closed for security checks and camera proofing. At least I hope that is what they are doing.

  7. #27045
    Quote Originally Posted by Joeblow300  [View Original Post]
    All of the closures could also be owners deciding to take a few days to tear their buildings apart and make sure they don't have any law enforcement cameras in there. That is what I would do.
    You make a great point, I hadn't thought of that and you're right I suppose I would do the same thing if I were one of the owners.

  8. #27044
    All of the closures could also be owners deciding to take a few days to tear their buildings apart and make sure they don't have any law enforcement cameras in there. That is what I would do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton4  [View Original Post]
    With all these local AMP's closing and then reopening it definitely raises some internal questions for me. I drove by GG twice on Sunday and there were no cars in the parking lot and then they're suddenly closed on Monday for water damage? Sorry that doesn't smell right to me. Same thing with Tokyo. They're renovating? In all my years of enjoying this hobby I've never come across anything like this. Not to mention that CB is reopening it doors shortly. They have a Grand Opening Coming Soon sign hanging on the old CB sign. Not trying to create fear here but I'm concerned that LEO could be setting up surveillance for an Orange County sting. I don't know this to be accurate nor have I heard this from any fellow Mongers just something for us to think about. As for me I won't be going to any those locations once the reopen their doors. Curious what some of you fellow Mongers think.

    Be smart and safe!

  9. #27043

    Kraft Update.

    There's a threaded side bar link on Orlando Rub Maps entitled "Kraft Cleared". Guy doesn't leave his sources but says stop illegal among a few others. Like its been said, "Money talks and bullshit walks."

  10. #27042

    Luxsa

    Anyone been to Luxsa lately? They didn't pick up when I called. Hopefully they are still open.

  11. #27041

    Help Anybody.

    Has anybody visited a AMP in the Casselberry Altamonte or lake Mary since all the issues going on. If so where. If not does anybody know of a independent that does massages at a reasonable rate?

    Thanks be safe.

  12. #27040

    May Spa.

    This is my favorite go to place. Last visit was 2 weeks ago. Went there today at 2 pm. The place is now closed. There is a note on the door saying that they are undergoing repairs and will re open tomorrow. Think everyone is spooked.

  13. #27039

    Thoughts?

    With all these local AMP's closing and then reopening it definitely raises some internal questions for me. I drove by GG twice on Sunday and there were no cars in the parking lot and then they're suddenly closed on Monday for water damage? Sorry that doesn't smell right to me. Same thing with Tokyo. They're renovating? In all my years of enjoying this hobby I've never come across anything like this. Not to mention that CB is reopening it doors shortly. They have a Grand Opening Coming Soon sign hanging on the old CB sign. Not trying to create fear here but I'm concerned that LEO could be setting up surveillance for an Orange County sting. I don't know this to be accurate nor have I heard this from any fellow Mongers just something for us to think about. As for me I won't be going to any those locations once the reopen their doors. Curious what some of you fellow Mongers think.

    Be smart and safe!

  14. #27038

    Kms

    Anyone been to KMS the past couple weeks since everything went down? Are they open?

  15. #27037

    Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by JustForRubs  [View Original Post]
    Gone pretty quiet here is everyone good? No contact from the uncles for anyone so far?
    Just as an aside: A couple of years ago I saw someone I know from the DC area at one of the Florida spas that was recently busted (she goes to Florida to work winters). We had a nice time, but she didn't like it there because it was more like a house than a real spa and didn't get much business. So she answered a few ads and found a much better place that even gives a bigger share of the house fee to the girls. Now she's VERY glad she left. Now she's worried she might have to leave Florida--she likes her current location very much as she's a beach lover and she can take time off during slow periods to do whatever. She's been able to spend more time at the beach (just 5 minutes from the spa by Uber; 30 minutes walking on a nice day) than usual the past couple of weeks. But her income has dropped sharply. I'm glad she's no longer at the original place, too, as I visited her recently.

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