Massage Parlor Reports

**Cheech1** · 02-28-19 10:23

I'm way up north in Cleveland, Ohio. I was down in Vero and Ft. Pierce the first week and a half of Feb fishing, treasure hunting and fucking around. Had a great time for the most part, didn't catch many fish. Anyway, I was lucky to avoid the spa problem. I have yet to see an article that mentions any LEO getting warrants for the cameras. And for the life of me I can't see how anyone could slip cameras into these places without someone noticing, especially if they claim people were living there. I know they can be quite tiny, but usually those pinhole cameras have to be mounted in a wall or some object. Even though the cameras are small they still have to be attached to a battery and antenna or wired to a recorder, so there is some volume there. And someone has to be relatively nearby to pick up the recordings if they are transmitted by ultrasmall equipment. Seems to me like the owners of these spas or an employee must have been complicit in the installation of these cameras. I could, of course, be wrong. And by the way, night vision cameras usually have some source of infrared light to pick up images that are really clear. Thermal cameras that small wouldn't give recognizably clear pics I don't think.

Cheech.

**JPerez0909** · 02-28-19 06:42

This article has a distinctly different tone than 9 days ago. Maybe the prosecution is having trouble building a case?

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/cr...ts/2993803002/

**BeachBum15** · 02-27-19 20:02

All these threads across the State are flooded with 'talk' about the activities down south. Many are talking about the demise of many of our favorite shops do to. Well fear seems to be the dominate theme. There are a few things we can do to keep the 'fires' from dying out. Right now the risk of partaking in any extended 'menu' is somewhat risky but that isn't going to keep me from visiting my favorites. I just plan to decline the more and settle for less. My suggestion to those shops is to ride this out. Give a good rub, maybe a good 'tease' but nothing more. Accept our tips for service and be patient. You will still get paid and when things relax the 'business model' can change for the better.

**MBaby469** · 02-27-19 14:34

Originally Posted by Willie24 [View Original Post]

Visited her yesterday for an hour visit. Remembered to take the shower! She is a big woman but nicely proportional! Started with massage, not bad except for all the conversations about concentration camps for homeless and various conspiracies. After a good 30 minutes of talk and massage, got to main event. BBBJ was good and except for some DATY, finished quite satisfied. Clean incall, a pleasant woman and a bargain at 100 Mario's. Would recommend, but probably will not repeat since its a long drive for me from Indian River County and the bizarre conversations are a little too much for me.

Where is she located?

Is she in a condo and used to live in Indianatlantic? I saw a gal in Cape Canaveral a while back but don't remember her name.

**Doug Stamper** · 02-27-19 12:38

Originally Posted by OutForStroll [View Original Post]

Actually, we may find out. When there are criminal charges, the defense does a discovery demand. The prosecutor has to give the defense all the information. A good defense lawyer would also ask for Stingray info. Fed govt will insist the case be dismissed rather than let cities disclose it was used.

The police created a fake bomb scare to vacate the building for several hours while they installed the cameras. https://www.salemnews.com/news/local...91cd88107.html.

**Willie24** · 02-27-19 12:00

Originally Posted by Otto22 [View Original Post]

I am a fairly regular client of Ronnie and I have seen and experienced her clit. It is evident but no where near 1" long, even when most excited. I would not take a wide angle camera to capture it in full. The thing about Ronnie, however, is how hard she cums. It is explosive!

Visited her yesterday for an hour visit. Remembered to take the shower! She is a big woman but nicely proportional! Started with massage, not bad except for all the conversations about concentration camps for homeless and various conspiracies. After a good 30 minutes of talk and massage, got to main event. BBBJ was good and except for some DATY, finished quite satisfied. Clean incall, a pleasant woman and a bargain at 100 Mario's. Would recommend, but probably will not repeat since its a long drive for me from Indian River County and the bizarre conversations are a little too much for me.

**OutForStroll** · 02-26-19 17:35

Originally Posted by ScottyM3 [View Original Post]

Well if LEO used their own camera's it's quite easy actually to put them in a room. When I go to Zen, and others, I go in, pay the door fee, then the girl leaves the room to give mamasan the money. In that short of time I'm sure they could possibly get their own camera installed in a short time. Or they hacked in to the spa's camera system. As far as making a deal with the owners for use of their cams, I kind of doubt that as many owners were "reported" arrested. But hey, we'll never really know.

Actually, we may find out. When there are criminal charges, the defense does a discovery demand. The prosecutor has to give the defense all the information. A good defense lawyer would also ask for Stingray info. Fed govt will insist the case be dismissed rather than let cities disclose it was used.

**CoochieMac** · 02-25-19 11:12

Originally Posted by Richbal [View Original Post]

"it could be anywhere from two to five (human trafficking victims).

Investigators seized between $180,000 and $200,000.

Overall officials are in the process of seizing more than $2 million in assets.

Sheriff could have accomplished this back in November. The only reason to let the trafficking continue was for the headlines at the cost many reputations. I hear Kraft has hired Roy Black. If anyone can expose ulterior motives, he is the best. Stay tuned.

**Richbal** · 02-25-19 11:03

"it could be anywhere from two to five (human trafficking victims).

Investigators seized between $180,000 and $200,000.

Overall officials are in the process of seizing more than $2 million in assets.

**ScottyM3** · 02-24-19 12:41

Originally Posted by AreaGentleman [View Original Post]

No, not that kind (.)(.). The bad kind. I'd be interested in opinions from you guys out there with legal expertise. Will post this on several other boards around state.

Presumably, the mega-wealthy Kraft has the best legal team money can buy. Is it possible that local authorities are having an "Oh Shit!" experience as they conjure up the possibility of facing a high-powered legal onslaught? Maybe not. But, with thousand dollar per hour (or whatever they get) people figuring out ways to overcome this clusterfuck for their guy, is it conceivable that a determination would be made that the whole thing gets thrown out due to citizen privacy rights getting trampled, extreme bias or other factors (which I know nothing about)? And if that were the case, could it result in the opposite of intended effect by making it less likely that LE would execute similar operations? Maybe even make it unconstitutional to bug a massage therapy client room? It would be pretty amazing if LE landed a fish so big that it sinks their boat.

-AG.

I agree with the fact that Kraft may not face anything or get any time or penalty with all the lawyers he has. That reminds me of a thing that happened to me when living back in Chicago. A friend of mine was President of an oil company back then which was owned by the Crown family, who I believe owned or still is a part of Waste Manegment. We got to talking about taxes and I said yeah but you guys never pay any taxes. To which he replied, "Yeah because we have 2 floors of the best attorneys around to make sure we don't. ".

**DJMiles** · 02-24-19 11:18

Originally Posted by AnonJohn [View Original Post]

What is the penalty for pleading guilty to getting a hand job at an AMP? It's hard to believe in 2019 we're even talking about this being such a serious headline news worthy event...it's like a reality TV show, complete with multiple units, cameras, turncoat AMP workers, etc. Robert Mueller doesn't have this level of intensity.

Would any judge give Kraft anything more than a fine and a slap on the wrist? I know this is Florida & God only knows what's possible but it's just that John's are usually not prosecuted or slapped on the wrist.

The damage they've done to Kraft in the press is already way beyond the level of punishment that any john doe getting a rub and tug would get.

I was reading a paper in Europe yesterday and it gets a full page story there. Apparently they are saying there are bigger public fish than him caught up. Let's see. The comments were hilarious though. People mystified how in the land of the free this is such a big deal (no one buys the trafficking line).

**Aacountyman** · 02-24-19 10:18

Originally Posted by AnonJohn [View Original Post]

What is the penalty for pleading guilty to getting a hand job at an AMP? It's hard to believe in 2019 we're even talking about this being such a serious headline news worthy event...it's like a reality TV show, complete with multiple units, cameras, turncoat AMP workers, etc. Robert Mueller doesn't have this level of intensity.

Would any judge give Kraft anything more than a fine and a slap on the wrist? I know this is Florida & God only knows what's possible but it's just that John's are usually not prosecuted or slapped on the wrist.

The damage they've done to Kraft in the press is already way beyond the level of punishment that any john doe getting a rub and tug would get.

That's all he is going to get. He has too much money and power.

**AnonJohn** · 02-23-19 22:40

What is the penalty for pleading guilty to getting a hand job at an AMP? It's hard to believe in 2019 we're even talking about this being such a serious headline news worthy event...it's like a reality TV show, complete with multiple units, cameras, turncoat AMP workers, etc. Robert Mueller doesn't have this level of intensity.

Would any judge give Kraft anything more than a fine and a slap on the wrist? I know this is Florida & God only knows what's possible but it's just that John's are usually not prosecuted or slapped on the wrist.

The damage they've done to Kraft in the press is already way beyond the level of punishment that any john doe getting a rub and tug would get.

**CoochieMac** · 02-23-19 22:18

Originally Posted by Willie24 [View Original Post]

Just my thoughts, it causes a severe damper on the whole business throughout the state and elsewhere. It is definitely politically motivated. Most people will now think twice before entering any of these establishments not to mention the number that will close down as a result of this publicity. If the State of Florida wanted to dictate morality they have certainly succeeded. These girls will return to the streets and the pages of Skip the Games and elsewhere. I for one would think twice before entering any of these places as a result of these headlines. Be safe and cautious out there!

Conservatives have lamented the attack on freedom for decades, now look at what we have- the embodiment of KGB practices. I can think of at least 5 more serious threats to public safety than 2 consenting adults harming no one.

**DJMiles** · 02-23-19 18:11

Originally Posted by AreaGentleman [View Original Post]

No, not that kind (.)(.). The bad kind. I'd be interested in opinions from you guys out there with legal expertise. Will post this on several other boards around state.

Presumably, the mega-wealthy Kraft has the best legal team money can buy. Is it possible that local authorities are having an "Oh Shit!" experience as they conjure up the possibility of facing a high-powered legal onslaught? Maybe not. But, with thousand dollar per hour (or whatever they get) people figuring out ways to overcome this clusterfuck for their guy, is it conceivable that a determination would be made that the whole thing gets thrown out due to citizen privacy rights getting trampled, extreme bias or other factors (which I know nothing about)? And if that were the case, could it result in the opposite of intended effect by making it less likely that LE would execute similar operations? Maybe even make it unconstitutional to bug a massage therapy client room? It would be pretty amazing if LE landed a fish so big that it sinks their boat.

-AG.

It doesn't matter to the system if Kraft gets off. Nabbing Kraft is the icing on the cake. He is what has given this bust legs. It's mentioned in every newspaper I've seen and given the bust a 1000 x magnification. The real purpose is to scare Johns, which will close these places down. Given how easily they were able to put video cameras in the therapy rooms, it's hard to imagine anyone going there again. And with such a high profile win, more and more stings like this will be authorized. The danger is after they bore with that, where do they start looking next?