"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Rustyshk]

We've all spent a lot of time messaging w / girls, on the site and by text, and even planning on meeting. Of course, all of us have also been flaked on when we thought we had a done deal to M&G. What I have found recently is that a lot of girls message freely, and even provocatively, but if I ask to have a phone call w / them, they go silent. Obviously, if they won't talk to me by phone, they are very unlikely to meet. So, I am using this as a filter, it should save some effort. You don't have to rule them out, perhaps they may come around some day, but just shoot them a text like 'Do you have privacy for a call?' and see what comes back.

Absolutely! I do this 90% of the time. It saves a lot of BS texting back and forth about nothing.

[CoolPix]

As some have said recently in this thread, a little cynical viewpoint. As some veterans like F Scott and bikerider like to say, you get the sugarbowl you are looking for. I am not looking for what you're talking about above, and thankfully, I repel women who want that.

If I want a hooker experience I'll go straight to a hooker. That's not to say that I haven't ended up with a pro while perusing the bowl, but I've been somewhat successful in finding SBs who will spend a little time before and after "hanging" out, perhaps sharing a drink, bottle of wine, shots, etc. And I prefer these types of experiences. I just got back from a trip to Hawaii and met with two local SBs. I started the dance well before arriving and ended up having extended sessions with both (separately) with multiple rounds of fun sprinkled in with breaks and drinks. Did they both want an allowance? Yes. But neither of them were in a hurry to grab the cash or spend much time looking for my "weak spots. " The only time I've done that with someone who "was looking for my weak points" I paid handsomely for and had no illusion.

[CoolPix]

The daytime occupancy is not really a choice for me but rather a necessity as I have a SO in life. So HotelsbyDay works perfectly for me, just wish they have more locations to offer in the near future. Keep receiving solicitation to invest in their startup.

J.

I looked into this in the DC area and the pickings were really limited. Enough so that I was totally bummed after being turned on to the site by a previous SB. I haven't looked lately, mainly because I rarely play in the Dulles area which is where the only two hotels that popped up in the site were available. I probably miss out on more SBs because of a lack of FC and my own very limited schedule. And maybe that's a good thing. My bowl budget ain't what it used to be!

[F Scott]

As some have said recently in this thread, a little cynical viewpoint. As some veterans like F Scott and bikerider like to say, you get the sugarbowl you are looking for. I am not looking for what you're talking about above, and thankfully, I repel women who want that.

Hey Far,

Thanks for the shoutout! I honestly believe that if you present yourself as a hammer, all you will attract are nails. In all my years in the Bowl, I've only had coffee with two babies who clearly were pros, and I am convinced that is because my profile and my contact messages are written with an RL situation in mind. Pros just don't have the time or patience for me, haha!

Keep up the good work all. I'm still in the Bowl, but being much more selective these days, and enjoying it.

Tally ho!

Scott.

[BStreet]

Little Miss Grey https://www.seeking.com/member/203ae...8-a8109ac4a47a.

Sexy sparrow: https://www.seeking.com/member/ba786...6-0b21e33391d2.

Blondredxhead: https://www.seeking.com/member/3af7a...c-e789c33dbe5c.

Julezforev: https://www.seeking.com/member/0fa27...e-b619e3bd1220.

Thanks if you do!

[BStreet]

I don't usually just meet at the hotel, usually do M&G publicly, but just happened to settle on having the SB come to the hotel. She was 21,5'2" said body average on SA. Pics showed her to look pretty, nice at the top, but only 1 further away pic of her body with no head shot in the pic and all other pics just head shots and chest. Anyway, she comes over to the hotel, room, should have been a few extra pounds and not as pretty as the pics. So anyway, decided what the hey, she started on a BJ and rimming like no other I have ever had. She was so into it! So despite, that, had a good experience, but I have learned a couple things after last night. Refining my searches and do a public M&G always first. Save time and money when it's not as advertised.

[FarFarAway]

We've all spent a lot of time messaging w / girls, on the site and by text, and even planning on meeting. Of course, all of us have also been flaked on when we thought we had a done deal to M&G. What I have found recently is that a lot of girls message freely, and even provocatively, but if I ask to have a phone call w / them, they go silent. Obviously, if they won't talk to me by phone, they are very unlikely to meet. So, I am using this as a filter, it should save some effort. You don't have to rule them out, perhaps they may come around some day, but just shoot them a text like 'Do you have privacy for a call?' and see what comes back.

[EasyeOne]

I have a business trip need go to LA this Sunday, so I'm searching some local beauty to spend a night.

Dam, they are all pricy!

This one 1000 PPM.

https://www.seeking.com/member/12232...a-8d7f69f4be3f

This, 800 PPM.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ed832...6-226922548fc3

Dam, I'm not used to see this number LOL.

Where are those 300 range? Dam.

There's plenty of girls in LA that are down for 200/300 range. Kayla Rodriguez is her porn name, sister of Veronica Rodriguez (another porn star). Paying for the porn experience I guess.

[HollywoodGuy]

If you own a strip club, then you know what these girls are all about. There's no such thing as turning good girls into bad girls. The girls lie about being new. They lie about everything! They're going to tell you whatever you want to hear to get as much money out of you as possible. Just like we sit here and chat and talk about all of the maniacal ways that we can get what we want, they are doing the same. The problem that some of you guys are having is that you're treating it like an actual "dating" site. The girls on SA are on there to make money. If there hanging out with you before having sex with you, it's only because they want to feel you out and find your weak points. They're doing what every female on Earth over the age of "3" does, they're trying to figure out how to manipulate you. They're not chatting with us or hanging out with us because they're enjoying our company.

True most of the time. But not all the time. With strip club girls maybe 97% of the time. But its one of the main reasons I stick with the younger ones. They've had less time to poison their minds. But it still blows me away how jaded and conniving they can be even at 18 and 19. Its a numbers game for sure. We are all looking for the gems. I have met at most one a year.

[FarFarAway]

A pre-paid card that can be used for purchases to merchants outside the US is a bit of a holy grail. It seems like SA has a payment system that can tolerate the readily available Visa Vanilla cards, that aren't advertised as such. Several other sites, including Secret Benefits and the email vendor I prefer, hushmail, don't have this. Are any of you SDs familiar w / a card that overcomes this issue? Specifics please. What is it, exactly, and where do you buy yours?

I solved this problem and wanted to report the solution. Rather than using an online PayPal process, I got onto my sugar paypal account and did a payment by entering in an email address provided by my vendor. That went through.

I am not certain how long it will be possible to have PayPal accounts that are 'burners'. I have had this account for a few years, and they aren't asking me for verification of my identity, but some things I was trying to do to pay that vendor were certainly seeking that kind of info, which I am unwilling to give.

To be absolutely clear, I am buying prepaid cards like Vanilla Gift or OneVanilla, adding them to the PayPal account and making them the default payment option, and then using the Send Payment function on PayPal to pay. So, if you have a vendor who is unable to process one of your US-limited cards, ask them if they have an email address that can receive PayPal payments.

[FreeSpiritFet]

I have a business trip need go to LA this Sunday, so I'm searching some local beauty to spend a night.

Dam, they are all pricy!

This one 1000 PPM.

https://www.seeking.com/member/12232...a-8d7f69f4be3f

This, 800 PPM.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ed832...6-226922548fc3

Dam, I'm not used to see this number LOL.

Where are those 300 range? Dam.

[Javazer]

Make sure you check the hotels app before booking either (hotelbyday or Dayuse). Last time I booked (there's only 1 hotel in my home city that are on the sites) the day rate was $89 for 9-4 & the rate for a regular night was only 20 more so I just booked the night instead but was still able to check in before noon.

The daytime occupancy is not really a choice for me but rather a necessity as I have a SO in life. So HotelsbyDay works perfectly for me, just wish they have more locations to offer in the near future. Keep receiving solicitation to invest in their startup.

J.

[DavidS78]

Have been using HotelsByDay exclusively in my area, MA / NH. The pros: cheap daytime rate as low as $65 for big name chain, early am check in, 8 am in some case, no CC required to reserve. The cons: have to check out by 6 pm.

Make sure you check the hotels app before booking either (hotelbyday or Dayuse). Last time I booked (there's only 1 hotel in my home city that are on the sites) the day rate was $89 for 9-4 & the rate for a regular night was only 20 more so I just booked the night instead but was still able to check in before noon.

[Javazer]

I have no experience of HotlesByDay but have been using Dayuse.com a lot. Dayuse let's you reserve without a credit card or deposit and cancel right up to the last minute without penalty. Hotels are all very nice. In my area a lot of them are Hiltons and affiliated brands.

Like to hear from bothers who have used both and can compare them.

Have been using HotelsByDay exclusively in my area, MA / NH. The pros: cheap daytime rate as low as $65 for big name chain, early am check in, 8 am in some case, no CC required to reserve. The cons: have to check out by 6 pm.

[DogBert77]

I have no experience of HotlesByDay but have been using Dayuse.com a lot. Dayuse let's you reserve without a credit card or deposit and cancel right up to the last minute without penalty. Hotels are all very nice. In my area a lot of them are Hiltons and affiliated brands.

Like to hear from bothers who have used both and can compare them.