"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**RVASpider** · 12-10-18 11:04

Originally Posted by Tidad [View Original Post]

OK; you found a "beautiful little blonde haired and blue eyed angel" who was willing to fuck for financial help and you proceed to pay thousands of $$ to get her out of the area and out of financial need? That's great, thanks Capt.

BTW a hookup that you pay thousands $ for in advance isn't "free".

My thoughts exactly. I had one SB that I paid every other time we hung out or so. Those weren't free meetings. It just meant the amount I paid was spread across several meetings. If you paid $2000 to get to NYC, and you've hooked up with her 10 times since then, you still paid her $200 per meeting. It might be a great deal but it definitely isn't free.

**Tidad** · 12-10-18 09:39

Originally Posted by AngryDragon [View Original Post]

I had an SB who was a cosmetologist. Her parents didn't have a very much money and sent her to Empire Beauty School. She was a beautiful little blonde haired and blue eyed angel. She said that she couldn't make friends there because it was a bunch of really obese, black women who we're low class and didn't take care of themselves. She was definitely in the wrong place. I paid for her to go to the Redken Exchange in New York City. She apparently feels extremely grateful to me and we hook up for free every time she's in Richmond to visit friends and family. When you give a female security that they can count on, they'll give you the world.

OK; you found a "beautiful little blonde haired and blue eyed angel" who was willing to fuck for financial help and you proceed to pay thousands of $$ to get her out of the area and out of financial need? That's great, thanks Capt.

BTW a hookup that you pay thousands $ for in advance isn't "free".

**FarFarAway** · 12-10-18 01:00

Fascinating 60 Minutes story tonight about how phone apps are engineered to reward and entice. My thought as I watched was. We've got to figure out some of the tricks that app developers use and apply them to our conversations w / POTs. A big complaint many have is that things can be moving right along and then suddenly the girl drops off the face of the earth. We need the behavioral mods we can apply to get girls to engage.

**FarFarAway** · 12-10-18 00:54

Originally Posted by CoolPix [View Original Post]

I've also met a couple of dental techs / hygienists as well. The first one I met thought I was going to come in (she hosted in Springfield), bust a nut, and then leave. I took her to three rounds (I have no idea how I was able to do that, she wasn't smoking hot and I'm usually a one and done old dude) and wore her ass out. She was like, "damn, most guys are out of here in 30 minutes. ".

Yep, I'm proud of myself and bragging a tad bit. But there is definitely something about playing with civvies that brings out the best in ol' junior! I do enjoy the bowl, that's for sure.

Be nice to them fellow mongers.

Uh, there's a disconnect here. You say your SB is a 'civvy' - but then she says 'most guys' - so, obviously, she has a database big enough to use *most* - you've got what is defined here as an UTR.

**BikeRider** · 12-09-18 17:05

I've been civy dating since my divorce, and it's not bad. Not great, but like the bowl it takes time to sort things. I've been able to date more than a few women around 20 years younger than myself. My current "friend" is 15 years my junior, and makes as much or more than I do. I actually feel like a SB. She keeps giving me gifts all of the time.

While I am seeing someone now, I thought I'd give the bowl a try prior to my holiday trip home. I'm pretty disappointed. The girls definitely don't want to chat as much prior to meeting. I always used this as a method for eliminating the scammers and GPS. When you do meet, they're nothing like what they claim. I had some good years on SA, but I'm afraid it's been over taken with Backpage girls. I'm certain there are still some gems out there, but they're getting jaded by the guys that joined SA as an alternative to Backpage. As a result, they don't want to chat as much or just leave the site in disgust.

I'm going to give it a few more weeks while I'm visiting family and alone, but I think this my last dip in the bowl.

See my post in the Baltimore forum about a recent SA meet gone wrong for why I feel this way.

**BikeRider** · 12-09-18 16:51

Originally Posted by Statecho [View Original Post]

I have a burner phone for playing in the bowl, but my other phone is loaded w a FMF app and my kid and SO can locate me.

What is the best way to avoid being tracked while going out to drinks and date in Notel? Leave the phone at work / gym or turn the phone off is not feasible. I can turn share my location off but will they get a alert / message when I do that, or it will simply show as my phone is off / no battery etc- which is easier to explain.

I bet this FMF app must have caused a tons of devoice😉128521;.

What's the best plan of action is this scenario.

With iOS / iPhone you're screwed. If you're using Android, you can download the the FakeGPS app for free. It allows you to set your location anywhere in the world.

**AngryDragon** · 12-09-18 16:40

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**HawkJock** · 12-09-18 15:54

Originally Posted by Statecho [View Original Post]

I have a burner phone for playing in the bowl, but my other phone is loaded w a FMF app and my kid and SO can locate me.

What is the best way to avoid being tracked while going out to drinks and date in Notel? Leave the phone at work / gym or turn the phone off is not feasible. I can turn share my location off but will they get a alert / message when I do that, or it will simply show as my phone is off / no battery etc- which is easier to explain.

I bet this FMF app must have caused a tons of devoice😉128521;.

What's the best plan of action is this scenario.

Airplane mode works and doesn't alert your friends of being turned off. You'll have to play with it, but it used to transmit your last known location when you switch to airplane mode until you go live again.

**TeamX2002** · 12-09-18 15:27

I am a guy and let me start of by saying [Racial Epithet(s) Deleted by Admin] I am not a racist or a lookist.

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I don't know what a lookist is but you are without question a racist. I'm also thinking you're probably not a guy so I banned your user name.

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**AngryDragon** · 12-09-18 14:16

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Really starting to think you're a chick.

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**DavidS78** · 12-09-18 14:14

Originally Posted by InTight [View Original Post]

The only way I have found is BitCoin. It is volatile as is the stock market. If you fund your BitCoin wallet and use it immediately should be good. If there is enough interest I can post how to do it.

I would be interested in this.

**Statecho** · 12-09-18 11:43

I have a burner phone for playing in the bowl, but my other phone is loaded w a FMF app and my kid and SO can locate me.

What is the best way to avoid being tracked while going out to drinks and date in Notel? Leave the phone at work / gym or turn the phone off is not feasible. I can turn share my location off but will they get a alert / message when I do that, or it will simply show as my phone is off / no battery etc- which is easier to explain.

I bet this FMF app must have caused a tons of devoice😉128521;.

What's the best plan of action is this scenario.

**GolfMan57** · 12-09-18 08:27

Have you seen her again? The profile is down.

Originally Posted by RedBaron69 [View Original Post]

She is real. Met with her Saturday for drinks, hit it off pretty well, BBBJ in the parking lot. She was limited on time. Young kids and husband at home. Talked her into coming for a room visit the following afternoon after work. She is a lot of fun. Seeing her again soon.

**AngryDragon** · 12-08-18 19:34

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You're SB told you or you're a hooker who hates black guys

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**AngryDragon** · 12-08-18 17:42

Originally Posted by Tidad [View Original Post]

Let me tell you: if you see Empire Beauty School on a girl's FB, check out her friends, you'll see familiar faces. Over the years I have struck up 15 or 20 p4p "friendships" by reaching out to students there; I don't even know if it still operates but it's been great for my ability to bang broke 25 year olds. And to top it off, I've had more than a few providers approach me through my monger profile because they knew some of my "friends" from there and knew about their side gigs #ReferralSexIsGoodSex.

I had an SB who was a cosmetologist. Her parents didn't have a very much money and sent her to Empire Beauty School. She was a beautiful little blonde haired and blue eyed angel. She said that she couldn't make friends there because it was a bunch of really obese, black women who we're low class and didn't take care of themselves. She was definitely in the wrong place. I paid for her to go to the Redken Exchange in New York City. She apparently feels extremely grateful to me and we hook up for free every time she's in Richmond to visit friends and family. When you give a female security that they can count on, they'll give you the world.