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  1. #2904
    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    It's that time of year again and they all need extra Christmas money. Escorts and MP girls will be willing to go the extra mile for just a few extra dollars.

    That's why Lilliana is active again.

    I have digits and password for Frenz for Benz.
    Lilliana is a sweat heart. I saw her a couple of weeks ago and had a great time.

  2. #2903
    Quote Originally Posted by OrallVrForU  [View Original Post]
    This area might be better for the good old day comments and pics.

    Enjoy the flashback.

    Dave.
    I do miss Linz. She set the bar high. I didn't have the pleasure of the others. At least not that I can remember. Who are they?

  3. #2902
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    Posts: 4423

    Lillianna

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    It's that time of year again and they all need extra Christmas money. Escorts and MP girls will be willing to go the extra mile for just a few extra dollars.

    That's why Lilliana is active again.

    I have digits and password for Frenz for Benz.
    I always see her in her sweat pants and slippers, had lunch with her yesterday. No make up for me LOL.

    I told her we needed some recent pics. So here you go.
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  4. #2901
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    Posts: 4423

    Lilliana

    It's that time of year again and they all need extra Christmas money. Escorts and MP girls will be willing to go the extra mile for just a few extra dollars.

    That's why Lilliana is active again.

    I have digits and password for Frenz for Benz.

  5. #2900

    Looking for a early morning provider.

    I am a third shifter looking for a reliable provider who is up and answers her phone around 630 am if anyway can help with suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. I've texted and called a few and I never get any responses. Grand Rapids and north.

  6. #2899

    All Stars from the past.

    This area might be better for the good old day comments and pics.

    Enjoy the flashback.

    Dave.
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  7. #2898

    How I screen SP prior to visit.

    It's hard to screen someone that you have never seen before and has not been reported here recently. Just because she was given the OK a year ago don't mean she has not gotten in trouble and is now working for the other team. Keep in mind LE can say anything.

    And it is OK. So just because they say they not LE that don't mean anything. Lot of SP will try to tell you that LE can't say that but they can. Only thing LE can't so is commit a crime and they can not mention money for services first. Anything else they can do. Best screen I have used is require at least one nude pic of provider be sent. Cops can't do this because they have no way of knowing if the person on the other end is over the age of 18. LE can't send the pic because of that and it help show that provider is same person as person in pics in ad and that she likely will follow through with appt. If she not willing to send that type of pic what makes you believe she will be willing to do much more in person. Some so refuse to send. In that case I opt for one that will.

    They don't need to show much. One nipple is enough. Hopefully you find this helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    I don't like the idea of anything in writing AT ALL, for me text needs to be simply to secure the appointment. I sure don't want to mention code letters or really any reference to sexual activities if I can help it. Much better to do that convo in person once you are sure who you are dealing with, or at the very least. And very carefully. Over the phone. If it is aunt or uncle LEO they will either have written or recorded evidence of your intent. With Benz approach above as long as money is not mentioned you might have at least a fighting chance to win a case. All that said, I don't know the answer to Grizzly's question about the best way to ask questions before meeting someone whom you have absolutely no information about and nothing has ever been reported on the board. Takes lotsa guts and a bit more risk to TOFTT and be the first to report, for sure.

  8. #2897

    Two bits and a shave

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    My wife insisted I get a haircut this week. She wanted me to get it before Thanksgiving. I tried but the girl in the Valley was all tied up the whole week before Thanksgiving. That's what happens with the good ones.

    This morning my wife left me a note with 20 bucks on the counter saying Get a Haircut.

    Fortunately The girl in the Valley was available today.

    Got the trifecta again. Hair cut, Manscaping and BBBJ / ws.

    I had to add a few more dollars to my wife's 20 for the extra services.

    Next time I'll have the Valley Girl print a receipt and bill my wife for the whole amount.

    I had difficulty getting an appointment closer to the Holiday, she's a busy girl.

    If you want the trifecta before Christmas, I'd start texting now.

    You can get VG digits through Edmonger, Assman45 or Benz1
    Getting your wife to financially support your hobby. Benz you have achieved superior status! I have always wanted to try a haircut from her, but I get mine cut from the same stylist my wife goes to, so not sure how I could pull that off. I'll definately get in to see her for the extras though!

  9. #2896
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    Valley Girl

    My wife insisted I get a haircut this week. She wanted me to get it before Thanksgiving. I tried but the girl in the Valley was all tied up the whole week before Thanksgiving. That's what happens with the good ones.

    This morning my wife left me a note with 20 bucks on the counter saying Get a Haircut.

    Fortunately The girl in the Valley was available today.

    Got the trifecta again. Hair cut, Manscaping and BBBJ / ws.

    I had to add a few more dollars to my wife's 20 for the extra services.

    Next time I'll have the Valley Girl print a receipt and bill my wife for the whole amount.

    I had difficulty getting an appointment closer to the Holiday, she's a busy girl.

    If you want the trifecta before Christmas, I'd start texting now.

    You can get VG digits through Edmonger, Assman45 or Benz1

  10. #2895

    Known to you

    Quote Originally Posted by BluBalls1  [View Original Post]
    So I had an appointment the other day I can't get out of my head. I walked in and the girl to my surprise wound up being someone I went to school with and also friends on social media. She has always been a nice person and we where friendly back in the day, but she was also always unstable. On social media she talks a lot about being broke. In the past we have sent an occasional non hobby related private message usually about nothing. I went forward with the appointment, didn't haggle, and had a good time. I would normally repeat.

    My concern is that on social media I have a very public S. O, family, and career. I did ask her if everything was going to be cool and she reassured me. So far no issues, but I have a lot of regret and anxiety over this.

    Any thoughts on how I can maintain leverage?

    Or how have you handled your self if you have been blackmailed in the past?
    How about sharing info on the provider. If she provided a quality service, and you left satisfied perhaps you should share with the forum.

    Picture, link to ad etc would be appreciated I'm sure.

  11. #2894
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    Posts: 4423
    Quote Originally Posted by BluBalls1  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the reply. Without naming names, can you please be as detailed as possible about your blackmail.

    What did she say? What was her method of communication and threat? How did you handle it?

    It might not only help me, but others that could wind up in this position.
    I like Blackfire's advice for you better than mine.

    In my earlier post I mentioned how I would handle it if it was me. Meeting people you know will happen again to me, you and others too.

    If I give info of how I thrawted a providers attempt to black mail me, it will prepare all providers reading this on how we might react. Everything said is best left to PM. If and when it happens send me a message.

    There are a lot of variables about both parties that make each situation different from the others.

    I can not anticipate the thoughts or reactions of any woman but if it's a drug addict they become more predictable.

    However if she can detect a lot of fear, you have lost all negotiations before it starts. This hobby requires some negotiating and navigating skills at many different levels, sometimes you need ice in your veins.

    If you are losing sleep over something that hasn't happened yet, listen to Blackfire, get some counseling.

  12. #2893
    Quote Originally Posted by BluBalls1  [View Original Post]
    So I had an appointment the other day I can't get out of my head. I walked in and the girl to my surprise wound up being someone I went to school with and also friends on social media. She has always been a nice person and we where friendly back in the day, but she was also always unstable. On social media she talks a lot about being broke. In the past we have sent an occasional non hobby related private message usually about nothing. I went forward with the appointment, didn't haggle, and had a good time. I would normally repeat.

    My concern is that on social media I have a very public S. O, family, and career. I did ask her if everything was going to be cool and she reassured me. So far no issues, but I have a lot of regret and anxiety over this.

    Any thoughts on how I can maintain leverage?

    Or how have you handled your self if you have been blackmailed in the past?
    It's very doubtful this girl will try to blackmail you, considering you do know her and presumably some of her friends since you went to school with them. Unfortunately if she is a member here and were to read this you might have given her an idea that you are vulnerable and a possible mark if she is desperate for money. If she does contact you for money in exchange for silence I would recommend not falling for it or threatening her back, just ignore it. Most threats never are followed through on. If she actually does "out you" just deny and reference the fact that she's broke and unstable, I'm sure anyone that knows her would also know she's unstable. I'm assuming she doesn't actually have any hard proof that you paid her for sex. If she has proof of some sort that means you weren't being very careful in the beginning by giving her something hard she can blackmail with (like a real phone number text, a picture, phone records of calls to a real phone number of yours, etc.). In that case, I would play hardball with her and not give in to her demands, it's still unlikely she will follow through and if she does you just have to take the medicine you earned.

    The comment that you have "alot of regret and anxiety over this" is probably a bigger concern you should address than the remote possibiility she might blackmail you. I would recommend serious introspection and maybe a good counselor.

  13. #2892

    Re: Blackmail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately this problem is part of the everyday risk in this hobby.

    Years ago I was escorted to a massage table by Mommsen, I was face down when the girl started the massage. On the flip we both realized we knew each other. Ended fine and we never connected again.

    Another time I went to a hotel room and she recognized me, I did not recognize her because I knew her as a teenager, it Went well without any problems. We have seen each other a lot since then. What the hell, make the best of it.

    I also use to see a very popular provider in the hobby that was on my step daughter's FB, She never recognized me (I think) I saw her about 20 times maybe more. Worked for me.

    1 provider has formally met my wife and another bumped into us at a restaurant. (so far no problems).

    The NoNonsenseLady has met most of my family except my wife and I would not worry if she ever did meet my wife. She is so cool about everything, not only a great provider, an Awesome friend that I miss very much since she moved to San Diego. She has helped me a lot in this hobby. Taught me how to identify all the red flags about providers and many other things necessary to navigate through the hobby too.

    What I'm trying to say is it will probably happen again. It's a risk we take...
    Thanks for the reply. Without naming names, can you please be as detailed as possible about your blackmail.

    What did she say? What was her method of communication and threat? How did you handle it?

    It might not only help me, but others that could wind up in this position.

  14. #2891
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4423
    Quote Originally Posted by BluBalls1  [View Original Post]
    So I had an appointment the other day I can't get out of my head. I walked in and the girl to my surprise wound up being someone I went to school with and also friends on social media. She has always been a nice person and we where friendly back in the day, but she was also always unstable. On social media she talks a lot about being broke. In the past we have sent an occasional non hobby related private message usually about nothing. I went forward with the appointment, didn't haggle, and had a good time. I would normally repeat.

    My concern is that on social media I have a very public S. O, family, and career. I did ask her if everything was going to be cool and she reassured me. So far no issues, but I have a lot of regret and anxiety over this.

    Any thoughts on how I can maintain leverage?

    Or how have you handled your self if you have been blackmailed in the past?
    Unfortunately this problem is part of the everyday risk in this hobby.

    Years ago I was escorted to a massage table by Mommsen, I was face down when the girl started the massage. On the flip we both realized we knew each other. Ended fine and we never connected again.

    Another time I went to a hotel room and she recognized me, I did not recognize her because I knew her as a teenager, it Went well without any problems. We have seen each other a lot since then. What the hell, make the best of it.

    I also use to see a very popular provider in the hobby that was on my step daughter's FB, She never recognized me (I think) I saw her about 20 times maybe more. Worked for me.

    1 provider has formally met my wife and another bumped into us at a restaurant. (so far no problems).

    The NoNonsenseLady has met most of my family except my wife and I would not worry if she ever did meet my wife. She is so cool about everything, not only a great provider, an Awesome friend that I miss very much since she moved to San Diego. She has helped me a lot in this hobby. Taught me how to identify all the red flags about providers and many other things necessary to navigate through the hobby too.

    What I'm trying to say is it will probably happen again. It's a risk we take.

    Most providers do not want the world to know what they're doing. If they expose you, they expose themselves too.

    Your girl could be one of our weekend worriers that has a job and a real life outside of the hobby too.

    If she's not a drug user, has a real job and you liked the appointment, I would see her again. It's hard to find honest trustworthy providers that we like. If there is any damage, it's already done. Make the best of it. That's just me.

    As far as the blackmail, That will usually depend if the girl is using Drugs, in their mind anything goes to get the drugs.

    The only time a girl attempted to blackmail me, I was playing captain save a hoe and thought I could get it cheaper if I made her my girlfriend. WRONG. Women are always looking at what's in it for them, just like we are. When the women are on drugs they will make sure they get what they need. Even if it means blackmail. She wasn't successful (that's a long story). The attempted blackmail happened before Benz was born.
    The blackmail attempt is permanently resolved now. She died in July of 2018. I'm sure it was drug related. She had a Doctor prescribing anything she needed.

    In closing, I Should have Listened to my dads advice. " The cheapest piece of ass you will ever have is the one you pay for, you know what the cost is up front. " My dad was a great mentor and would have loved this site.

    Happy hunting and stay safe.

    Hope this helps.

  15. #2890
    Weekends can be difficult especially these days when the pickins are slim. I would say focus on the CityXGuide Verified providers. And you may want to consider a sugar arrangement. There is a forum for that under the Grand Rapids section.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly27  [View Original Post]
    So I had some free time today and texted just about every real woman on skipthegames. I only got 2 responses out of like 30 different texts. Skipthegames is nothing but a game. I have been browsing cityxguide as well with the same outcome. Are there any other sites anyone can provide me with to find women who respond. What I'd do for CL casual encounters right now. I am also in need of a reliable lady who isn't afraid of car dates and who can meet me on occasion at Night before work if anyone has suggestions on any of this it would be greatly appreciated.

    Happy Holidays may your jingle bells ring.

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