"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[RogerOver]

Interesting article in today's NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/s...rangement.html

The guy had it coming for not playing the game in an honest and fair fashion and the article skirts around any mention of negative outcomes for him, so who knows if there were any or not. But it just goes to show how easily anonymity can be compromised, even when you think you've got a buttoned up plan with multiple fake names and numbers, as well as very little electronic footprint or paper trail to a hotel room.

Interesting read, even for the SJW NYT.

I was giving that a read this morning. Interesting how the owner of Seeking puts things for the girls:

If anything, a sugar baby hoping to find a lasting arrangement with a good provider should withhold sex for as long as possible, said the thrice-divorced Mr. Wade, who also runs other dating sites including OpenMinded.com, which promotes so-called ethical cheating. The moment you give sex, you have lost all your power, he said.

Clearly, after all he's done, he still has no idea how to deal with women selling their hoo-hoo.

Here's a link for anyone that might not have access to the NYT (due to paywall, etc.).

A Sugar Date Gone Sour

[Kwagmire]

Interesting article in today's NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/s...rangement.html

The guy had it coming for not playing the game in an honest and fair fashion and the article skirts around any mention of negative outcomes for him, so who knows if there were any or not. But it just goes to show how easily anonymity can be compromised, even when you think you've got a buttoned up plan with multiple fake names and numbers, as well as very little electronic footprint or paper trail to a hotel room.

Interesting read, even for the SJW NYT.

[EvilTmp]

From the OP description, unclear that she would see her behavior as building up FC debt, so it's probably walk.

My take is that this is not a unicorn, merely someone that the OP is viscerally attracted to, and also happens to give off a vibe that makes the time spent together seem very IRL / civvie. But the ratio of platonic to non-platonic dates for a unicorn should be way better than a civvie relationship. The reverse seems to be the case here.

As I've mentioned before, in my current SB I'm taking a more civvie approach, not expecting every date to be a FC event. This is the case because she's has consistently demonstrated a non-SA vibe, and is also someone to whom I have a visceral attraction above and beyond most SB's I've met. At the same time, a 10-1 ratio would not work for me long term, no matter how attractive she was.

Reminds me of a story. This girl I used to know was a former escort and told me that her current boyfriend of almost a year thought she was a virgin or almost virgin when they met. She had literally the semen of 100+ guys pumping in her vein and this guy thought he was her first or second. And I know she was still seeing regulars while she was with this guy. Some people will believe whatever they want to believe....

[Walruscl]

You spent a month with her? Paid $1000 plus gifts and paid for many dates and you went to the FC one time?

So I'm guessing the money total is closer to $2500? For ONE go?

You need to have 5 or 6 GREAT trips to the FC before any more payments happen. Ok, sure maybe pay for drinks ect but she is juicing you hard. At this point it's FC or walk and block her.

From the OP description, unclear that she would see her behavior as building up FC debt, so it's probably walk.

My take is that this is not a unicorn, merely someone that the OP is viscerally attracted to, and also happens to give off a vibe that makes the time spent together seem very IRL / civvie. But the ratio of platonic to non-platonic dates for a unicorn should be way better than a civvie relationship. The reverse seems to be the case here.

As I've mentioned before, in my current SB I'm taking a more civvie approach, not expecting every date to be a FC event. This is the case because she's has consistently demonstrated a non-SA vibe, and is also someone to whom I have a visceral attraction above and beyond most SB's I've met. At the same time, a 10-1 ratio would not work for me long term, no matter how attractive she was.

[BookerTNelson]

Saw on an SA profile today, she mentioned a SD blacklist. Anyone have any info on this? Need to make sure I'm not on it. LOL thanks.

A few pop up with a google search. They're kind of funny to skim through if you have 10-15 minutes LOL.

[Madaboutmax]

Most people need to be aware that this site is visible and searchable by search engines like Google and Bing. If you write a post with their full username it can be found by a simple search.

From a post I made on another board:

I don't underestimate people's, especially the younger generations, use of search engines like Google. I expect many will Google their own username and the username of people they are talking to. *.

I've done the same and found contact information for girls on SA, outside of SA. Many will use the same username in multiple places like Pof, Okcupid, instagram, twitter, gmail, Yahoo, etc. *.

I regularly Google my own username to know if I'm being talked about on any forums or sites. *.

In the past week, I've had SBs in two different cities I've been messaging tell me someone posted pics / messages about them on "an escort website", one specifically referred to USASG.

[FarFarAway]

If she has all the money of the world why does she needs more from some activities very risky? She just needs company and good sex but she put high price for her pussy to just those who can pay the entry price can contact her I think if she likes you might you won't have to pay high money or might be no money all total unicorn

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I don't understand much of this answer, but to clarify, her relationship w / the other guy is over, and she's trying to make ends meet. She is attractive enough to command a lot, I think you'd agree.

[TheMarto1]

If she has all the money of the world why does she needs more from some activities very risky? She just needs company and good sex but she put high price for her pussy to just those who can pay the entry price can contact her I think if she likes you might you won't have to pay high money or might be no money all total unicorn

I am seeking advice / strategy from seasoned SDs here. The target is a unicorn. 30's single mom, absolutely stunning, model quality, classy, lithe body, anatomy that is my ideal. Very simple-minded cosmetologist. Not anything like any other SB I have met off SA. She has a profile several years old, but on and off the site I take it. Reports a 4 year relationship (not arrangement) w / an independently wealthy married older guy. I see this girl as utterly without guile. She's not that experienced sexually, even shy about it.

She does have high $ expectations, but agreed to see me for what I could afford, 1 K / mo. I am supernice to all my SBs, I bought her a gift or two in addition to the sugar. I spent a month+ w / her and FCed once, + many other dates. A few things kept us apart for a while, then messaging just stopped, but she recently got back in touch. I usually interpret a revival of interest as horny and / or broke. It's not just first of month rent, though. Our first time she asked and I agreed to a pricey beach resort hotel room, but ongoing I would like her to host when her kid is with daddy. How do I play this?

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[Ernest Ll]

In the past week, I've had SBs in two different cities I've been messaging tell me someone posted pics / messages about them on "an escort website", one specifically referred to USASG.

[Tidad]

I am seeking advice / strategy from seasoned SDs here. The target is a unicorn. 30's single mom, absolutely stunning, model quality, classy, lithe body, anatomy that is my ideal. Very simple-minded cosmetologist. Not anything like any other SB I have met off SA. She has a profile several years old, but on and off the site I take it. Reports a 4 year relationship (not arrangement) w / an independently wealthy married older guy. I see this girl as utterly without guile. She's not that experienced sexually, even shy about it.

She does have high $ expectations, but agreed to see me for what I could afford, 1 K / mo. I am supernice to all my SBs, I bought her a gift or two in addition to the sugar. I spent a month+ w / her and FCed once, + many other dates. A few things kept us apart for a while, then messaging just stopped, but she recently got back in touch. I usually interpret a revival of interest as horny and / or broke. It's not just first of month rent, though. Our first time she asked and I agreed to a pricey beach resort hotel room, but ongoing I would like her to host when her kid is with daddy. How do I play this?

You spent a month with her? Paid $1000 plus gifts and paid for many dates and you went to the FC one time?

So I'm guessing the money total is closer to $2500? For ONE go?

You need to have 5 or 6 GREAT trips to the FC before any more payments happen. Ok, sure maybe pay for drinks ect but she is juicing you hard. At this point it's FC or walk and block her.

[RedBaron69]

Saw on an SA profile today, she mentioned a SD blacklist. Anyone have any info on this? Need to make sure I'm not on it. LOL thanks.

[FarFarAway]

I am seeking advice / strategy from seasoned SDs here. The target is a unicorn. 30's single mom, absolutely stunning, model quality, classy, lithe body, anatomy that is my ideal. Very simple-minded cosmetologist. Not anything like any other SB I have met off SA. She has a profile several years old, but on and off the site I take it. Reports a 4 year relationship (not arrangement) w / an independently wealthy married older guy. I see this girl as utterly without guile. She's not that experienced sexually, even shy about it.

She does have high $ expectations, but agreed to see me for what I could afford, 1 K / mo. I am supernice to all my SBs, I bought her a gift or two in addition to the sugar. I spent a month+ w / her and FCed once, + many other dates. A few things kept us apart for a while, then messaging just stopped, but she recently got back in touch. I usually interpret a revival of interest as horny and / or broke. It's not just first of month rent, though. Our first time she asked and I agreed to a pricey beach resort hotel room, but ongoing I would like her to host when her kid is with daddy. How do I play this?

[InTight]

If you are going to be truly anonymous use BitCoin. With a free web base email (use Mail.com not G-Mail) and a Bitcoin wallet on your phone you can transfer $ to SA that can't be traced to anyone. I bought BitCoin at a machine in a gas station then transferred it to my phone app and used it from there. I just went through the process to update my VPN and NewsService entirely anonymously. Simple process once you have figured it out. If there is interest I can explain it on the board or try to put something together to PM those interested.

Seems I only have one request by PM so I will send that monger my text document. It is long and detailed but the process is rather simple once you have done it. Others interested can PM me.

[CantWinLosin]

Pardon my ignorance but can you tell me what FC refers to? I could not find listed in abbreviations area.

FC = F*ck Chamber.

[Madaboutmax]

FC = "F**k Chamber".

Pardon my ignorance but can you tell me what FC refers to? I could not find listed in abbreviations area.