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  1. #3035
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    Posts: 1979

    Plan B (or C) should be less complicated than Plan A

    Quote Originally Posted by HighTemp  [View Original Post]
    Czech, good for you that your back up plan worked. But I found for my case it's hard to get a plan B or C etc work out.

    When a provider flake, that usually happened at last minutes or 10,15 min after your set time that you found out have been stood up. If you then try to make another appointment with a different agency, it have to 1 or 2 hour later. The k agencies usually like a day ahead notice. It's easier going un-noticed by spouse for a 2 hour windows, enough for you drive to and back from incall location plus the actual time with providers. But to schedule another one plus the wait, that will fall into the 3,4 hours gone missing, which will easily raise suspicion.

    I wish there are agencies or independent providers can do business like those AMPs. I recently ventured into those AMPs and pleasantly found out they can work with 15 min advanced notice. Just call them ahead and say I will be there in 15 min and AMPs are happy to accommodate. I think they actually prefer short notice.

    Meanwhile, double book a time doesn't work either. Say you book 1st provider at one time, then book 2nd for half hour later. If 1st one fail, you can go to 2nd. If 1st one work out, you can cancel 2nd. But if you cancel 2nd with 1/2 hour notice, if it's an agency, they might ban you forever. You may lost the opportunities to see their other wonderful providers and your effort gone through their screening process is wasted.

    This is a dilemma for me. If you keep working with good professional agency or provider, you chance get flaked is minimized, but you get same type of people and service; If you venture into different race or appearance and want the varieties, there is the unknown and the danger of being flaked.
    Using your agency example, if Plan A falls through and you only have a limited time window, then by necessity any backup plan needs to be uncomplicated and quick.

    IMHO, the key to a good backup plan is advance homework. If you know Plan A is taking you to a specific area, then research needs to be done beforehand to identify other possibilities (indies, AMPs, Asian crapshoot places, etc.) in that same area. IME, by taking those steps you can often switch to your backup in as little as 15-30 minutes.

    But there's no way to pull off a Plan B that has as many moving parts and advance notice requirements as the original plan. Something like that will need to wait to be Plan A for another day. What you have to decide is whether you need to get your itch scratched badly enough so that you don't want to wait for a future time window.

    If you have the names and numbers of a few indie providers in the area (maybe some that you've been eyeing for a while) and the numbers of a couple of crapshoot places and maybe the locations of a few nearby AMPs, it should take only a few minutes of texting or calling to set something up. About double-booking, I would advise against it as it's a good way to get blacklisted as a no-show client and also because we hate it when providers do that to us.

    If you want to make a Plan B that's more elaborate, I guess that's possible but even more advance work would be needed. I have no problem with the "quick and dirty" solution and I've even found some gems that I wouldn't have otherwise.

    Just my two-cents worth and I'm sure other members will chime in with their advice and experiences.

  2. #3034

    Plan B,C. To defend flaky providers

    Quote Originally Posted by Czech  [View Original Post]
    (...) Good thing is that the brothers at USASG always stressed to have a backup plan. I patron Asian Gem (http://asiangem.us) few weeks ago, (...) So I guess it's like the old saying. When one door closes, another open.
    Czech, good for you that your back up plan worked. But I found for my case it's hard to get a plan B or C etc work out.

    When a provider flake, that usually happened at last minutes or 10,15 min after your set time that you found out have been stood up. If you then try to make another appointment with a different agency, it have to 1 or 2 hour later. The k agencies usually like a day ahead notice. It's easier going un-noticed by spouse for a 2 hour windows, enough for you drive to and back from incall location plus the actual time with providers. But to schedule another one plus the wait, that will fall into the 3,4 hours gone missing, which will easily raise suspicion.

    I wish there are agencies or independent providers can do business like those AMPs. I recently ventured into those AMPs and pleasantly found out they can work with 15 min advanced notice. Just call them ahead and say I will be there in 15 min and AMPs are happy to accommodate. I think they actually prefer short notice.

    Meanwhile, double book a time doesn't work either. Say you book 1st provider at one time, then book 2nd for half hour later. If 1st one fail, you can go to 2nd. If 1st one work out, you can cancel 2nd. But if you cancel 2nd with 1/2 hour notice, if it's an agency, they might ban you forever. You may lost the opportunities to see their other wonderful providers and your effort gone through their screening process is wasted.

    This is a dilemma for me. If you keep working with good professional agency or provider, you chance get flaked is minimized, but you get same type of people and service; If you venture into different race or appearance and want the varieties, there is the unknown and the danger of being flaked.

  3. #3033

    K-agency

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    Kudos to you for posting a contribution rather than immediately asking questions or seeking recommendations.

    That being said, when posting about agencies, especially K-agencies, some additional info is usually needed to help make the Intel as useful as possible.

    First and foremost: Links, links, links. One of those is worth a thousand words since then other forum members can quickly see provider pics and anything else you're posting about.

    Second: Screening requirements. An agency with excessive requirements will only be of interest to a smaller subset of hobbyists. So knowing about the requirements helps avoid wasting the time of both the hobbyist and the agency.

    Third: Price. A provider who is a fantastic value at 250 is not such a great value at 350. If the website (again, link needed) doesn't list prices then the only way the forum will have that intel is if you tell us.

    Thanks again for the preliminary info and looking forward to your follow-up post.
    Based on the info from an earlier post from Czech and the name Josephie, it seems like the agency is http://asiangem.us/, looks like they need 2 verifiable references. No costs are listed though.

    Maybe this helps or not, just throwing my 2 cents there. It doesn't help me as I don't have the references to try the agency, but other members may find it helpful.

  4. #3032
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1979

    Congratulations on your inaugural post

    Quote Originally Posted by Ggnorethx  [View Original Post]
    Don't know if there are a lot of k-girl fans on this board, but with TER dead, it is hard to get good intel these days. I heard that a new asian agency opened in nova, so I decided to TOFTT and met with josephine. To my pleasant surprise I realized that we had met before when she was visiting as daina. The photos on the site aren't her, but trust me you won't be disappointed. She is drop dead gorgeous with big eyes, an athletic, toned body, and a round ass that most k-girls don't have. She was amazing as I remember, and if you are a fan of k-girls I highly recommend that you run to see her while you still can. She had a bunch of excellent reviews on TER, and she has some up on them, under the name diana in LA and boston, you can see her actual photos there. Why she isn't using them now, I have no idea. Needless to say, it is awesome that she is visiting, and I plan to repeat many times!
    Kudos to you for posting a contribution rather than immediately asking questions or seeking recommendations.

    That being said, when posting about agencies, especially K-agencies, some additional info is usually needed to help make the Intel as useful as possible.

    First and foremost: Links, links, links. One of those is worth a thousand words since then other forum members can quickly see provider pics and anything else you're posting about.

    Second: Screening requirements. An agency with excessive requirements will only be of interest to a smaller subset of hobbyists. So knowing about the requirements helps avoid wasting the time of both the hobbyist and the agency.

    Third: Price. A provider who is a fantastic value at 250 is not such a great value at 350. If the website (again, link needed) doesn't list prices then the only way the forum will have that intel is if you tell us.

    Thanks again for the preliminary info and looking forward to your follow-up post.

  5. #3031

    The Good, The Bad and The GPS.

    Have been leeching from USASG for a long time, and it's time to share my person experience today. So I am been trying to book with Riley (https://www.eros.com/maryland/baltim...les/468770.htm) an appointment for the past 2 months but no success due to conflicting schedule and her locations. In the previous attempts, she quoted $$ 2 for an hour. Finally I decided to try again last night / this morning. Of course, I asked her if she is in the Tysons area. She replied via text that she could either be in DC or Tysons Corner. I was liked, sweet, let's do it. Asked her if she can do 11 am and the donation, and she replied an hour saying the earliest will be 3 pm with no mentioning of the roses. Okay, no big deal as I just need to shuffle some of my weekend business meetings around.

    Well, this is when things went downhill. I asked her to confirm the donation, no reply. Asked her for the location / address for incall, and no reply. Asked to confirm the appointment, and of course no reply. I was about to give up after waiting for 3 hours. Suddenly she sent a text with an address. Just when you think there was hope, it went down to the drain in no time. I was driving to Tysons Corner shortly after she texted the address, and she called me. Since I can barely hear her voice over the phone, I pull over and trying to figure out what's up. Turned out that she can't do 3 pm, and want to reschedule for 5 pm instead. It's 2:30 pm at that point and I can't change my schedule anymore, so I declined. She called again and said if 4 pm will be alright. I was liked sure, since I don't leave town until 5:30 pm. Here comes the frustration part. She started asking me my name, how long will be session for, where did you find out about me, etc. All the information and references were exchanged during our previous texts. I answered all the question anyway. At one point, I tried to ease the weird conversation over the phone by saying "it must be a Saturday where we are all confused. Hahaha. " She doesn't understand what I meant, and went dead air for another 30 seconds.

    Then comes the most annoying part. She said because she's not a local girl (been posting in DC and Baltimore in Eros multiple times but not a local girl. I wonder.) so it will now be $$ for an hour because she is now hosting at Tysons, so she will "have to pass the cost" to me. It's not about the money but a matter of principal. I have been asking for donation confirmation since this morning with no answers. Also been asking for confirmation of the appointment, only received a text 30 minutes before hand. So guess what, "I thank you for your time and have a good day!

    Good thing is that the brothers at USASG always stressed to have a backup plan. I patron Asian Gem (http://asiangem.us) few weeks ago, and Aniyana was amazing. Shoot a text to them and got a response in 5 minutes, saying that Josephine is available at 3:15 pm. I replied that I will need more time to drive there, and they were willing to work the time out. Once I got there, I can't believe what I saw. The photos on the website is probably not hers, but she looks a lot better in person. Typical K-agency work of flow with a joint shower. A lot of DFK and good 10 minutes of BBBJ. She slipped the rain coat on without even being noticed. Worked different position, keep smiling and GFE the whole time. Finally I filled the bag in 15 minutes. She gave me a decent massage afterward, then tried to get jr. Up for second shot. Unfortunately, as an old man, second comes rarely, so we showered again and headed out. I will definitely repeat because of the attitude and Josephine's GFE services.

    So I guess it's like the old saying. When one door closes, another open.

  6. #3030
    Senior Member


    Posts: 136
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggnorethx  [View Original Post]
    Don't know if there are a lot of k-girl fans on this board, but with TER dead, it is hard to get good intel these days. I heard that a new asian agency opened in nova, so I decided to TOFTT and met with josephine. To my pleasant surprise I realized that we had met before when she was visiting as daina. The photos on the site aren't her, but trust me you won't be disappointed. She is drop dead gorgeous with big eyes, an athletic, toned body, and a round ass that most k-girls don't have. She was amazing as I remember, and if you are a fan of k-girls I highly recommend that you run to see her while you still can. She had a bunch of excellent reviews on TER, and she has some up on them, under the name diana in LA and boston, you can see her actual photos there. Why she isn't using them now, I have no idea. Needless to say, it is awesome that she is visiting, and I plan to repeat many times!
    I've often seen people on this board refer to providers and agencies by first name without any other reference like a phone number or URL. How would one find Josephine / Daina?

  7. #3029
    Senior Member


    Posts: 136

    You sort of can.

    On switter they're called "toots" (rather than tweets), and on a person's profile you can either see "Toots" or "Toots and Replies" to see the whole conversation.

    Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much conversation going on, and I fear Switter may be drying up before it ever got going. I am now seeing the same posts from the same providers and it is difficult to piece together who is where and when.

    I've been trying to make an effort to post, "Had a great time with XYZ, you can trust her, she is legit" just to give others some amount of comfort in seeing providers. Unfortunately I'm not seeing much of this from other users.

    Quote Originally Posted by HighTemp  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, review site is the way to go. That's why I posted it here to warn fellow mongers the first thing after I came back. I thought about txt her and telling her I am going to leave bad review for her on all the review site I can find, but gave up the idea feeling it's not worthy if get any retaliation back from her.

    Gone are the great TER days. Now we are flying blind. I don't know how many times I have been cursing the big brother or the stupid politicians. Like you said, TNA may be good but not as near as TER coverage-wise. I am trying to learn more switter and see if I can leave some sort of comment on Sweet Lexxi's post. Seems even switter is twitter like, but you can't reply or comment like real twitter does.

  8. #3028

    Josephine (aka Daina) at asiangem

    Don't know if there are a lot of k-girl fans on this board, but with TER dead, it is hard to get good intel these days. I heard that a new asian agency opened in nova, so I decided to TOFTT and met with josephine. To my pleasant surprise I realized that we had met before when she was visiting as daina. The photos on the site aren't her, but trust me you won't be disappointed. She is drop dead gorgeous with big eyes, an athletic, toned body, and a round ass that most k-girls don't have. She was amazing as I remember, and if you are a fan of k-girls I highly recommend that you run to see her while you still can. She had a bunch of excellent reviews on TER, and she has some up on them, under the name diana in LA and boston, you can see her actual photos there. Why she isn't using them now, I have no idea. Needless to say, it is awesome that she is visiting, and I plan to repeat many times!

  9. #3027
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1979

    Not much there, unfortunately

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowRock  [View Original Post]
    You can access TER using the TOR browser. FYI.
    You can access using any VPN that routes through a non-US server, not just TOR. But all the reviews of providers based in the US have been taken down and you can't search for any US location. Some providers contacted the site admin and asked to have their home city moved to Canada or Europe so their reviews can still be viewed. But, in order to find those reviews you have to know the name or profile number of the provider, or the name of the city she's using. And the site is actively looking for and removing reviews for providers who are actually working in the US while saying they're not.

    Some of the boards are still active but the level of useful info is pretty low and there's a lot of complaining about the demise of the site. All in all, it's a shadow of its former self and pretty worthless, IMHO.

  10. #3026

    Ter

    Quote Originally Posted by HighTemp  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, review site is the way to go. That's why I posted it here to warn fellow mongers the first thing after I came back. I thought about txt her and telling her I am going to leave bad review for her on all the review site I can find, but gave up the idea feeling it's not worthy if get any retaliation back from her.

    Gone are the great TER days. Now we are flying blind. I don't know how many times I have been cursing the big brother or the stupid politicians. Like you said, TNA may be good but not as near as TER coverage-wise. I am trying to learn more switter and see if I can leave some sort of comment on Sweet Lexxi's post. Seems even switter is twitter like, but you can't reply or comment like real twitter does.
    You can access TER using the TOR browser. FYI.

  11. #3025

    Review site to put flaky provide out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by JoseCuervo  [View Original Post]
    (...)I think the way to counter the endemic flakiness in our hobby is review sites. (...)
    Yeah, review site is the way to go. That's why I posted it here to warn fellow mongers the first thing after I came back. I thought about txt her and telling her I am going to leave bad review for her on all the review site I can find, but gave up the idea feeling it's not worthy if get any retaliation back from her.

    Gone are the great TER days. Now we are flying blind. I don't know how many times I have been cursing the big brother or the stupid politicians. Like you said, TNA may be good but not as near as TER coverage-wise. I am trying to learn more switter and see if I can leave some sort of comment on Sweet Lexxi's post. Seems even switter is twitter like, but you can't reply or comment like real twitter does.

  12. #3024

    To cope with provider flakiness

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    You can't escape the flake factor, you can only try to minimize its effect
    What make me especially mad is seems she is intentionally manipulating you or playing you for her own pleasure. May be she already formed plan the day before. I don't know what ticked her off. Is that I asked for half hour instead of full hour and she is thinking you are a cheapskate? Is it a racial thing? I give out my real name in txt, and it's not a John or Jim those common names. I got used to all the agency screening where you have to give out real name and even show DL.

    Also, because of the previous good review on this board, I had my hope up. I even had heart rate raising, dry mouth, swallowing spit all those in finding a dimond in a rough kind of expectation. I guess the best defense is set realistic expectation and never get your hope up and then you will never get disappointed.

  13. #3023

    Poland dream!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowRock  [View Original Post]
    Dremt of her again today. Always stays at high end hotels. A nice shower together before hand. Lots of cuddling kissing daty and sucking on perfect ersaser nipples. Great licking and BBBJ once she gets to know you. Climbs on top and once inside just savers the feeling while I sit up and lick the nipples more. Some LFk then cowgirl until completion. Stayed on top still inside her and leaned down to lick my chest more. A true pro. A diamond in the rough.
    Thanks SR for this incredible reference. 'Diamond in the rough indeed'!

    My junior was tired and dull after a lot of travel last week, sleeplessness and migraine. I must say the lady went out of her way to entertain me, worked really hard to give my lame jr. An incredible cum. She's worth it!

  14. #3022

    Anny. Tysons bodyrub

    Anny is an older provider in her late 40's from Argentina located in Tysons. $. 2 for half hour bodyrub and $. 6 for hour FS. I had read some old reviews from TER and I heard some good things about BBBJ. When I get there, I was disappointed in her looks, just average looking with average body, Still her breasts were nice and big. The massage was average, nothing special and then it was a jackrabbit HJ with no hint about a BJ. I asked her to slow down and she did for a few minutes before going fast again and then I would ask her to slow down again. Now I did ask her for a BJ and surprisingly, she did a BBBJ for a few minutes before going back to the HJ. I did finish after a while but it was not a good experience for me and not worth the money. I prefer hot young women if it is just going to be a HJ. She did offer FS for an extra tip but I wasn't too excited about her body and passed.

  15. #3021
    Quote Originally Posted by RegularJoe1985  [View Original Post]
    I gave up on JM after giving them a few passes. The others might flake every once in a while but JM is notorious.
    Wow, I must be lucky then. I've seen several of the models and never had a problem. Met two of my ATFs there. I'd stick with them and they're my go-to if I'm in the area.

    Happy to PM anyone with more details if wanted.

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