Arrangement Reports

**Acidjazz** · 08-25-18 02:45

Dipping my toes into the SA waters. Do you need to pay these guys to actually message the girls? I can't decide if that's worth it or not.

**Pau Ford** · 08-24-18 22:28

Originally Posted by Kingforamonth [View Original Post]

She's moderately new, that should change soon.

so many of them seem to have no idea of their competition on the site.

That is absolutely true. Had a very attractive lady in her late 30's hit me up. Her ad said "monthly allowance in the 5 figures per month". Told her politely she was crazy.

Few weeks later she's back messaging me and wants 1000/ meet. Politely tell her she's still delusional.

Couple weeks after that she's back and says how about 500/ meet.

Finally I said listen. Your a late 30's lady and your competition is thousands of college girls who think 300 is a lot of money. Blah blah I've got experience they don't she says. Sorry sister, the market makes the rules not you.

**FafaFooey** · 08-24-18 20:46

Originally Posted by FafaFooey [View Original Post]

I would never say I know for sure, but its most likely this is just paranoia and the girl parroting back half-understood news she's heard.

First, there's no Federal law on the books that applies to the indivdual transactions that make up the hobby. Think about it. If that were true then the legal Nevada brothels wouldn't be able to exist inside the US borders. Check this page as a reference: https://prostitution.procon.org/view...ourceID=000119. Feds are concerned about trafficking across state or country borders (especially in the current anti-immigration environment), or 'coercion' to lure girls again across states or into the country. FOSTA-SESTA is a new wrinkle, but that law targets website providers specifically, not individual providers / clients. So that puts the whole marketplace at risk of being shut down and is the obvious motivator behind many of the changes on SA and aversion to all the old 'allowance' and ppm references. In the unlikely case they're trying to sting SA based on that law, I'd think it would be a girl that would be targeted so they could document an offer of $ for services using the site. Keep in mind that despite all the frantic shutting down of sites and extreme fear, there has not yet been a trial, let alone a conviction, based on FOSTA-SESTA (the Backpage seizure is still crawling through pre-trial).

So that leaves your local LE which obviously can aggressively enforce their own anti-prostitution laws. In this case again, there's little reason other than possibly headlines to commit the resources to sting people on SA when they can put an ad up wherever ads are now and net a dozen guys in a few hours. To avoid even this small chance, you just need to use the same common sense that's been pushed on here for years. Don't discuss prices and acts ahead of time and don't share personal info at any point in the process. If you stick to the 'traditional' arrangement process. M&G, agreement on arrangement terms face-to-face, and moving to a location you control. You're pretty close to 100% safe. There's no way a stretched-thin local PD is going to commit an undercover team to go through a drawn-out meeting and negotiaiton to nail one guy for a likely misdemeanor.

I'm sure there may be other opinions or more to the story, but that's the way I see it. I think it can be happy hunting in the SB herd if you keep your head on reasonably straight.

Not trying to be a dick but there have already been stings run on SB sites. You can google it and find it. Guys have reported them on the forum.

A2

Never would think someone's a dick for trying to spread useful info. But when I search around, the only legal troubles I see involving SA so far are guys busted for hooking up with underage girls or related crimes like assault, blackmail, etc. Almost always after the fact. I can't find any account of a 'typical' arrangement ending with a potential SD busted for solicitation or something similar. Either way, I was just counseling common sense and caution vs cutting-and-running over paranoia. I think the legal risks of fooling around on SA are much smaller than partaking of traditional escorts, especially the lower-end providers, and the biggest concerns are privacy and personal security. But I'm always open to being further informed / educated by any experiences that are shared here!

I don't remember where but I have read it on the forum, I know I have. I don't know how else to say this, chicks on SA are traditional escorts. What you're doing is soliciting. Now that backpage is gone do you think all those cops that were running stings there have retired or opened donut shops? They are doing the exact same stuff there they did on BP, trapping pedos, getting guys to show up for dates. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, time will tell and I'm telling you, as the guy who reads a couple thousand posts all over this forum on a daily basis that it's already happening.

I have to say though that I hope that through this delusion people have about arrangements public opinion will be pulled to the place, like it did with weed, where chicks can just sell pussy if they want to like the rest of the civilized world.

A2

**AFrohman** · 08-24-18 20:27

Originally Posted by Csamstag [View Original Post]

Was talking with this one for a hot minute and then the profile disappeared. I didn't do or say anything to get blocked.

https://www.seeking.com/messages/inb...7-60c236aa9800

Wrong link, this is the right one - https://www.seeking.com/member/e0948...a-5a6323403cb1.

**KisaHero** · 08-24-18 17:39

Hey all, I've been trying to see these profiles however every link I press just sends me to a profile not found page. I'd appreciate it f anyone knows how to work around this.

**FafaFooey** · 08-24-18 17:24

Originally Posted by CreativeEros [View Original Post]

Hi Gents. I was an SA member several months ago, had a bad experience with my personal info being compromised and I was one of those 'extortion' victims. Spent a little money (through a reputable site) to take down my private info from the web so shied away from SA since then. However, with the new laws in place resulting in all our favorite websites being MIA (I truly miss CL Personals always had a lot of fun there but glad USG figured out how to stay alive), I recently rejoined SA a bit wiser but with an extremely discreet mindset. During my previous stint on SA, one of the women I was chatting with shared a warning with me that Federal LEO was starting to look at the 'arrangement' sites more carefully. Apparently wherever she got that news from freaked her out and she closed her account. How much validity I put to that statement, I do not know. However, I've recently had somewhat unusual interactions with a couple of the ladies out here when it came to scheduling a meeting and discussing price. I think a combination of my past extortion experience, the warning she gave me and these recent unusual interactions are promoting this question. What thoughts do you guys have on LEO (federal or local) spending resources by creating fake accounts and pursuing us horny innocents for trying to get our rocks off with some of these lovely ladies?

I'll now hang up and listen for my answers.

I would never say I know for sure, but its most likely this is just paranoia and the girl parroting back half-understood news she's heard.

First, there's no Federal law on the books that applies to the indivdual transactions that make up the hobby. Think about it. If that were true then the legal Nevada brothels wouldn't be able to exist inside the US borders. Check this page as a reference: https://prostitution.procon.org/view...ourceID=000119. Feds are concerned about trafficking across state or country borders (especially in the current anti-immigration environment), or 'coercion' to lure girls again across states or into the country. FOSTA-SESTA is a new wrinkle, but that law targets website providers specifically, not individual providers / clients. So that puts the whole marketplace at risk of being shut down and is the obvious motivator behind many of the changes on SA and aversion to all the old 'allowance' and ppm references. In the unlikely case they're trying to sting SA based on that law, I'd think it would be a girl that would be targeted so they could document an offer of $ for services using the site. Keep in mind that despite all the frantic shutting down of sites and extreme fear, there has not yet been a trial, let alone a conviction, based on FOSTA-SESTA (the Backpage seizure is still crawling through pre-trial).

So that leaves your local LE which obviously can aggressively enforce their own anti-prostitution laws. In this case again, there's little reason other than possibly headlines to commit the resources to sting people on SA when they can put an ad up wherever ads are now and net a dozen guys in a few hours. To avoid even this small chance, you just need to use the same common sense that's been pushed on here for years. Don't discuss prices and acts ahead of time and don't share personal info at any point in the process. If you stick to the 'traditional' arrangement process. M&G, agreement on arrangement terms face-to-face, and moving to a location you control. You're pretty close to 100% safe. There's no way a stretched-thin local PD is going to commit an undercover team to go through a drawn-out meeting and negotiaiton to nail one guy for a likely misdemeanor.

I'm sure there may be other opinions or more to the story, but that's the way I see it. I think it can be happy hunting in the SB herd if you keep your head on reasonably straight.

Not trying to be a dick but there have already been stings run on SB sites. You can google it and find it. Guys have reported them on the forum.

A2

**Pal5600** · 08-24-18 14:11

Originally Posted by Randolph [View Original Post]

Of the value of her pussy.

https://www.seeking.com/member/52749...8-67b645351559

I asked if she had a place to meet and she said its 1000 for the meet but only 800 if I get the room.

Seriously who the hell is going to give this one that kind of money?

Happy hunting.

Randolph.

She told me 600, but she will do it at 500 for me, whatever, so I pass.

**AFrohman** · 08-24-18 13:44

Was talking with this one for a hot minute and then the profile disappeared. I didn't do or say anything to get blocked.

https://www.seeking.com/messages/inb...7-60c236aa9800

**KingForAMonth** · 08-24-18 13:34

Originally Posted by Randolph [View Original Post]

Of .

https://www.seeking.com/member/52749...8-67b645351559

I asked if she had a place to meet and she said its 1000 for the meet but only 800 if I get the room.

Seriously who the hell is going to give this one that kind of money?

Happy hunting.

Randolph.

She's moderately new, that should change soon.

One of the underrated aspects of SA is seeing how hilariously out of touch the new girls are. If you read through the new accounts so many of them seem to have no idea of their competition on the site. Girls I wouldn't give 100 to are signing up with attitudes like they are SA's saving grace and about to change the game, with headlines like "believe it or not I'm real" or "chicago's best finally here". Then you read the bio and some BS about "not willing to meet but can possibly send some lucky daddy some cute photos if the price is right". I always get a kick out of these, especially when I check back in 2 weeks and their profiles / attitudes are completely different since they finally get the idea that 1) there are much better looking women than them on the site and 2) we have the internet and don't pay for photos.

**Randolph** · 08-24-18 12:01

Of the value of her pussy.

https://www.seeking.com/member/52749...8-67b645351559

I asked if she had a place to meet and she said its 1000 for the meet but only 800 if I get the room.

Seriously who the hell is going to give this one that kind of money?

Happy hunting.

Randolph.

**Creative Eros** · 08-24-18 10:47

Hi Gents. I was an SA member several months ago, had a bad experience with my personal info being compromised and I was one of those 'extortion' victims. Spent a little money (through a reputable site) to take down my private info from the web so shied away from SA since then. However, with the new laws in place resulting in all our favorite websites being MIA (I truly miss CL Personals always had a lot of fun there but glad USG figured out how to stay alive), I recently rejoined SA a bit wiser but with an extremely discreet mindset. During my previous stint on SA, one of the women I was chatting with shared a warning with me that Federal LEO was starting to look at the 'arrangement' sites more carefully. Apparently wherever she got that news from freaked her out and she closed her account. How much validity I put to that statement, I do not know. However, I've recently had somewhat unusual interactions with a couple of the ladies out here when it came to scheduling a meeting and discussing price. I think a combination of my past extortion experience, the warning she gave me and these recent unusual interactions are promoting this question. What thoughts do you guys have on LEO (federal or local) spending resources by creating fake accounts and pursuing us horny innocents for trying to get our rocks off with some of these lovely ladies?

I'll now hang up and listen for my answers.

I've been weighing on this forever. Guys who think "arrangements" aren't prostitution are delusional.

If the chick isn't fucking you without getting paid, by the year, month, week, day or hour she's a hooker and you are a john. I know more than a few real sugar daddies and their "babies" don't fuck other guys nor do they have ads.

It's like boxing hoss, protect yourself at all times.

A2

**Agoraphobe** · 08-24-18 01:16

https://www.seeking.com/member/ad816...8-f2586d8ab030

$300 for BBFS, DFK, and face shot. I got the sense that she'd pretty much let you do whatever you wanted. Only downside is advanced age and I'd say her body is slightly below average. Worth checking out if you're into super short Asians.

**Xg1423** · 08-23-18 23:40

Contacted this one and she wanted $700 for covered sex. I inquired about BBFS and a tried to talk her down and she went ape shit through text.

She's hot but I am not sure she is worth the craziness.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c27dc...0-b10e7eca5703

**Xg1423** · 08-23-18 18:01

Contacted her and we started texting. She sent some pics that didn't quite match up. She then wanted money sent before we met. I declined and then she said that all men are cheap for not paying for her pics.

Stay away from this one.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2ed92...e-036948feff93

**LoveToRoll** · 08-23-18 17:34

Originally Posted by FScott [View Original Post]

Contacted her on SA, and she immediately shared her private pics with me. After a few messages back and forth, we switched to texting, and set up an M&G near her place in the South Loop for coffee, and if all went well, a trip back to her apartment immediately afterward. She requested 500, I countered at 3, and we met in the middle at 4. A little more than I like, but take a look at her pics. She is hot AF!

I met her over a year ago. She was fun, but did not repeat. Did not get the same idea of her being utr as you did, but again, this was a while ago. Also have access to her social media.