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  1. #1059
    Quote Originally Posted by SugarDaddyX  [View Original Post]
    She looks like she is wearing a drape in the one full body pic and calls herself "slim thick". I'm guessing she is heavy. Very brief profile, makes me think she is just checking SA out.

    Good looking girl, only been on the site two weeks. It does not seem like she is looking for sex or even knows what she wants from the site.

    She seems like a game player.

    "I don't BS about what I want nor do I make impossible demands, I simply ask to take things slow and see how they go from there. If you're more into the speedy type of encounters that only satisfy a certain part of you, kindly look elsewhere."

    She makes it clear she is not going to put out and says she wants to do just dates and activities in the "what I'm looking for". She also talks about bringing cockblocking friends on the dates. I would not bother with this one.

    Seems pretty down to the point on her profile. Maybe just cold feet or playing games.

    Give her one more shot. Maybe she was seeing if you were serious and really going to show up. The really young ones are the flakiest. If she flakes again, get rid of her. She shows no pics below the boobs and calls herself curvy, so expect her to be heavier. Curvy has become the socially inoffensive way to say fat.

    The way her profile reads, she wants $400 for just a celibate date. Things like "come spoil me", "luxury lifestyle", and "If they can't make you richer..." -Cardi B. Seems GPS to me.

    Only the fourth and fifth ladies you posted seem to be DTF. The rest seem to be looking for something more platonic or would require the long game before their thong hit the floor.

    SDX.
    Thanks for a detailed feedback. I think I am still getting used to this and as you said, I am on for 4th and 5th. 5th feels a little cold feet probably due to her more than curvy personality I guess. But, she seems to be willing to go for it. Others as you said seem dud and will move on and spend my energies somewhere.

  2. #1058
    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    FruitNinja, I like your posts. I feel we have the same taste. I don't play the arrangement game here in the states, but I do in Ukraine. Monthly wages in that country are less then 200 and normal girls are forced to seek out relationships, often times with multiple guys. I think most young girls here are either flakes or addicts and I don't like the risks. I just want to mention the power of father figures with some of the younger girls that often times come from some pretty fucked up families. It's true we can't pull college girls out of clubs, but we do have distinct advantages over useless young and pretty boys just looking for fun. Of Charlie recently posted something I feel was kind of inaccurate about the sixty year old guy and the 20 year old hottie. My tip to older guys is to embrace father figure. They won't ever love you, but they will need and respect you.

    I could write a book on how to play papa figure, but it mostly comes down to respect and support. Be clean, stay in shape, and show yourself as a proper role model.
    BINGO! Most of the girls, and I've had the pleasure of having a lot, have some kind of father issue. The trick is to play into that and use it to your advantage. If you can do that you're home free with the majority of them. I can't stress how much this game is a psychological game. Most want a strong, firm, father figure. You have to temper that with a certain gentleness to disarm them. After that they are yours. I'm 61, and divorced for almost 15 years. I have slept with one woman over 30 and she was an exceptional woman. The body of an 18 year old coupled with the naughtiness of a 40 year old. The majority of the rest have been 18-20. So don't let age even cross your mind. Use your head. You're smarter than all of these girls. I use some of the negotiating lessons I've learned over the years. Learn how to read body language. You can also learn a lot from their profiles and messaging. Look for clues and gives. Try to ascertain what trips their trigger. I had a 19 year old that I groomed for weeks. She was down on her knees in my foyer 2 minutes after she walked in the house. I teased her, got her excited, got her guessing and inquisitive, and above all talked her into the state of horny. It took a little bit of kissing and she was on her knees. Great piece. I had her crawling up the wall. Shaking after our session. 75% of that was psychological. Lear.

  3. #1057
    Senior Member


    Posts: 3468

    Pulling In 30 Something Ladies.

    Quote Originally Posted by FruitNinja  [View Original Post]
    I'm 60 and I can still pull 30 year olds in the real world. What I can't pull is a 18-19 year old. A 30 year oldis a different story.
    I'm 54. Getting 30 something women is easier because the options for dating for these women tend to become limited. With 18-19 year old girls the options are open.

  4. #1056

    My Take

    Quote Originally Posted by ArielDude28  [View Original Post]
    Did anyone meet up these? I am in conversations with each one but no light at the other end of the pipe.

    She does respond but did not commit to meetup or anything yet. Still going on.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/1d37c...b-dc2a963d0c20
    She looks like she is wearing a drape in the one full body pic and calls herself "slim thick". I'm guessing she is heavy. Very brief profile, makes me think she is just checking SA out.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArielDude28  [View Original Post]
    Some messages exchanged and looking more chatty. Anyone tried her?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/c841d...1-98ce9afb342b
    Good looking girl, only been on the site two weeks. It does not seem like she is looking for sex or even knows what she wants from the site.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArielDude28  [View Original Post]
    Only messages exchanged so far. LOL. Anyone tried her and any reason to be chatting more?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/a7484...4-2ae12663981b
    She seems like a game player.

    "I don't BS about what I want nor do I make impossible demands, I simply ask to take things slow and see how they go from there. If you're more into the speedy type of encounters that only satisfy a certain part of you, kindly look elsewhere."

    She makes it clear she is not going to put out and says she wants to do just dates and activities in the "what I'm looking for". She also talks about bringing cockblocking friends on the dates. I would not bother with this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArielDude28  [View Original Post]
    Ready to meet but she dropped two times for some reason. Ready for the third attempt. Anyone met her?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/3ce3a...6-42fdb8259aaf
    Seems pretty down to the point on her profile. Maybe just cold feet or playing games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArielDude28  [View Original Post]
    Messages exchanged and planned to meet for coffee. But she dropped. Trying 2nd time.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/8e1a0...b-d24c027686d4
    Give her one more shot. Maybe she was seeing if you were serious and really going to show up. The really young ones are the flakiest. If she flakes again, get rid of her. She shows no pics below the boobs and calls herself curvy, so expect her to be heavier. Curvy has become the socially inoffensive way to say fat.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArielDude28  [View Original Post]
    I dropped below due to high allowance rates or suspicion. There were others like this but their profiles are off SA.

    Quoted 400 for PPM.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/71a7d...4-907b8cabdc15
    The way her profile reads, she wants $400 for just a celibate date. Things like "come spoil me", "luxury lifestyle", and "If they can't make you richer..." -Cardi B. Seems GPS to me.

    Only the fourth and fifth ladies you posted seem to be DTF. The rest seem to be looking for something more platonic or would require the long game before their thong hit the floor.

    SDX.

  5. #1055
    Look below the link for my comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArielDude28  [View Original Post]
    Did anyone meet up these? I am in conversations with each one but no light at the other end of the pipe.

    She does respond but did not commit to meetup or anything yet. Still going on.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/1d37c...b-dc2a963d0c20

    After a certain time you need to cut and run. Looks kinda big to me. Not at all what I'm into.

    Some messages exchanged and looking more chatty. Anyone tried her?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/c841d...1-98ce9afb342b

    " I'd love to talk and get to know each other for a while before meeting. Looking forward to speaking!" This is a long term with no possibility it will pay off. It's your time.

    Only messages exchanged so far. LOL. Anyone tried her and any reason to be chatting more?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/a7484...4-2ae12663981b

    This one lists Platonic. Why would you try for this?

    Ready to meet but she dropped two times for some reason. Ready for the third attempt. Anyone met her?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/3ce3a...6-42fdb8259aaf

    Looks chunky to me.

    Messages exchanged and planned to meet for coffee. But she dropped. Trying 2nd time.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/8e1a0...b-d24c027686d4

    "I'm open to new things and I'm always available to have a conversation about anything" and "Everything depends" would lead me to stay away.

    I am ont sure if I am spending too much time on each one but that's just me as I feel these are real profiles. Trying not to rush. I will share any success but let me know if I am off. Messages exchanged have been mostly about stuff happening in life but there were some topics about arrangement and why we are on SA. Etc.

    I dropped below due to high allowance rates or suspicion. There were others like this but their profiles are off SA.

    Quoted 400 for PPM.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/71a7d...4-907b8cabdc15
    "I am splitting time between working on my startup, school, and a job!" Good luck getting her to make time for you.

    I will say it again. You need to look for clues in the profile. Read between the lines. If they are looking for "Platonic" what makes you think you can change that? Why waste your time on trying to change her while there are 100's of girls that are looking for what you're looking for. If they complain how busy they are, why bother. She's not going to make time for you and if she does it will be a lot of work and money to get to that place.

    JMHO.

  6. #1054
    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    FruitNinja, I like your posts. I feel we have the same taste. I don't play the arrangement game here in the states, but I do in Ukraine. Monthly wages in that country are less then 200 and normal girls are forced to seek out relationships, often times with multiple guys. I think most young girls here are either flakes or addicts and I don't like the risks. I just want to mention the power of father figures with some of the younger girls that often times come from some pretty fucked up families. It's true we can't pull college girls out of clubs, but we do have distinct advantages over useless young and pretty boys just looking for fun. Of Charlie recently posted something I feel was kind of inaccurate about the sixty year old guy and the 20 year old hottie. My tip to older guys is to embrace father figure. They won't ever love you, but they will need and respect you.

    I could write a book on how to play papa figure, but it mostly comes down to respect and support. Be clean, stay in shape, and show yourself as a proper role model.
    I was trying to say it's hard to pull it off, not impossible but hard. You won't have a chance to put on your move if you can't even get the girl to message you back in the first place. Just like I have age as one of my filters, some girls also have age filter.

    Yes, I agree a lot of girls are looking for father figure, but given a choice between a 50 yr old guy and a 60 yr old guy, my bet is that girls will go for the 50 yr old guy over the 60 yr old guy all else being equal as far as looks, income, net worth. This is from speaking to a couple of 60+ yr old guys.

  7. #1053
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1644

    Father Figure

    Quote Originally Posted by FruitNinja  [View Original Post]
    I get where you would think there are a bunch of time wasters. I think the 18-19 demographic in general are flighty. SA is just a microcosm of real life. How many girls would you date before you found a keeper? The other thing is like us they might have 5-10 or more conversations going at one time. She finds what she wants and ghosts. That just means she was looking for something long term and she got a better offer. I get it totally. I've met with girls and done all but fuck in the car and the next day they ghost. Who knows what happened. I just move on. You cann't dwell on the lost ones when there's so many more to chose from. And as far as age preference that's totally subjective. I'm 60 and I can still pull 30 year olds in the real world. What I can't pull is a 18-19 year old. It would be very unlikely that there would be a place where we could meet and I could start putting on the moves. A 30 year oldis a different story. I personally prefer the innocence of the 18-19 year olds. Again. I like to train them. Very subjective.
    FruitNinja, I like your posts. I feel we have the same taste. I don't play the arrangement game here in the states, but I do in Ukraine. Monthly wages in that country are less then 200 and normal girls are forced to seek out relationships, often times with multiple guys. I think most young girls here are either flakes or addicts and I don't like the risks. I just want to mention the power of father figures with some of the younger girls that often times come from some pretty fucked up families. It's true we can't pull college girls out of clubs, but we do have distinct advantages over useless young and pretty boys just looking for fun. Of Charlie recently posted something I feel was kind of inaccurate about the sixty year old guy and the 20 year old hottie. My tip to older guys is to embrace father figure. They won't ever love you, but they will need and respect you.

    I could write a book on how to play papa figure, but it mostly comes down to respect and support. Be clean, stay in shape, and show yourself as a proper role model.

  8. #1052

    Agree After

    Don't give into their tactics. They will have lunch, dinner or cocktails with you and get the famous phonecall that her friend is in the hospital. LOL! I have a few SA friends that get pulled in by these girls with that craziness. Always remember from a position of power. In essence, that's what they are really wanting. A SD that has the power to control everything. That also includes how, when and how much. Enjoy and be safe.

  9. #1051

    After.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaster191  [View Original Post]

    I was thinking about telling her that I didn't mind giving her $200 at the start then if I have a good time at the end of the night giving her another $200. What do you guys think? How would this work logistically?
    That's a bad idea. You are paying her $200 to have drinks with you and she could theoretically just walk after drinks. Many girls will do this. They get cash in hand and don't have to sleep with you. You want to meet, feel each other out, if it's a go then you head off for private time, then you pay her. Cash is best for meetings early on, you can lay it out somewhere visible so she knows it's there. Once you develop trust you can do PayPal or Zelle transfers if you want. I just stick to cash all the time though so there's no paper trail.

  10. #1050

    General comment

    Quote Originally Posted by FruitNinja  [View Original Post]
    I've covered this in an earlier post. My cropped photo is on a social media site where is is not cropped. Plausible deniability. Anyone can get my picture online. I don't have anything that I need to hide as I have no SO per se. I just like my privacy and there are some associates that might not understand.
    There are people on the board with varing levels of tech sophistication just wanted to prevent any possible issues for someone. Believe me there is at least one person on the board that was surprised by that fact. Was more of a blanket FYI.

  11. #1049

    Probables

    Did anyone meet up these? I am in conversations with each one but no light at the other end of the pipe.

    She does respond but did not commit to meetup or anything yet. Still going on.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/1d37c...b-dc2a963d0c20

    Some messages exchanged and looking more chatty. Anyone tried her?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/c841d...1-98ce9afb342b

    Only messages exchanged so far. LOL. Anyone tried her and any reason to be chatting more?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/a7484...4-2ae12663981b

    Ready to meet but she dropped two times for some reason. Ready for the third attempt. Anyone met her?

    https://www.seeking.com/member/3ce3a...6-42fdb8259aaf

    Messages exchanged and planned to meet for coffee. But she dropped. Trying 2nd time.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/8e1a0...b-d24c027686d4

    I am ont sure if I am spending too much time on each one but that's just me as I feel these are real profiles. Trying not to rush. I will share any success but let me know if I am off. Messages exchanged have been mostly about stuff happening in life but there were some topics about arrangement and why we are on SA. Etc.

    I dropped below due to high allowance rates or suspicion. There were others like this but their profiles are off SA.

    Quoted 400 for PPM.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/71a7d...4-907b8cabdc15

  12. #1048
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago41  [View Original Post]
    I'm starting to figure out a lot of the people on SA are just plain old time wasters. I've had three good meetups, but at least 3/4 of the girls I contact either ignore me or respond with like a 5-word sentence. Most that respond just end up ghosting. Like someone said below, plenty of antisocial creeps making fake profiles, plenty of girls on there just messing around too. And a lot of GPS. I probably won't renew. I specifically joined this to meet 18-19 year olds and they're all flaky as hell on that site. I don't know how you guys have the patience for it. The ones I've met have been 30's and up and great. I'd rather bone a hot 30-year-old who knows what she's doing than waste time trying to hook up with these young flakes.
    I get where you would think there are a bunch of time wasters. I think the 18-19 demographic in general are flighty. SA is just a microcosm of real life. How many girls would you date before you found a keeper? The other thing is like us they might have 5-10 or more conversations going at one time. She finds what she wants and ghosts. That just means she was looking for something long term and she got a better offer. I get it totally. I've met with girls and done all but fuck in the car and the next day they ghost. Who knows what happened. I just move on. You cann't dwell on the lost ones when there's so many more to chose from. And as far as age preference that's totally subjective. I'm 60 and I can still pull 30 year olds in the real world. What I can't pull is a 18-19 year old. It would be very unlikely that there would be a place where we could meet and I could start putting on the moves. A 30 year oldis a different story. I personally prefer the innocence of the 18-19 year olds. Again. I like to train them. Very subjective.

  13. #1047
    Quote Originally Posted by Pal5600  [View Original Post]
    I agree 300 is alot for her, beside she is too big and too old for me, likely be older and bigger in real person, but other guys like bigger and older women, so who knows, there are always a type of women for other guys out there.
    She looks huge to me. Evert full length she is hiding her belly. And yes, probably a lot bigger in person.

  14. #1046
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayp80  [View Original Post]
    Cropped photos can be reversed image searched so everyone taking this approach should make sure you're not using that full picture elsewhere. Just making sure everyone is aware.
    I've covered this in an earlier post. My cropped photo is on a social media site where is is not cropped. Plausible deniability. Anyone can get my picture online. I don't have anything that I need to hide as I have no SO per se. I just like my privacy and there are some associates that might not understand.

  15. #1045
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaster191  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for all the tips again guys.

    One more question: when paying do you just pay with cash right when the date starts? Or after? This is for first time meeting I imagine after you could just do PayPal or something.

    One girl wants $500 per meet. I asked her what would happen during a meet and this was her response:

    Well in the past we do things like get drinks, dinner, and then whatever we wanted to do. If we had a connection we could go back to your place or a hotel and get to know each other more.

    I was thinking about telling her that I didn't mind giving her $200 at the start then if I have a good time at the end of the night giving her another $200. What do you guys think? How would this work logistically?
    I have never had to pay a SB upfront. This is what a pro does. And if she insisted I would suggest to her that this makes you feel like she's a pro and that's not what you're looking for. You sure are planning this out to every last detail. Meet for coffee. Don't give money upfront. If she wants allowance then there has to be some consideration. It's a legal term.

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