Arrangement Reports

[Pal5600]

The girls on the site, not all, but most, are generally on the site out of curiosity. They def understand that most guys will want some action, but they definitely don't want to be labeled or feel like they are a p4 p gal. This can be a little frustrating when trying to negotiate rates to get your monies worth.

However, there is an upside to this: sometimes, you can get laid for free. These girls don't want to feel like a hooker but are definitely on the site for monetary gain. The way they get it has to be structured in such a way that they generally feel the money is for their amazing character, even if we don't give a damn about what comes out of their mouth only what they can do with it. This isn't always the case, as there are plenty of open-minded girls who definitely take the business approach to justify what they do behind closed doors for money.

All in all, we have to understand that women in general go by how they feel, not what makes logical sense. If you can make them feel like the interaction between the 2 of you is a little more personal than transactional, you'll have a better understanding of them mentally. Don't forget the hobby rules to prevent you from getting scammed and have fun. You might get lucky for absolutely free, just like I have and plenty other mongers on the site.

Idk, I guess anything is possible, maybe a 21 years old playboy model is curious about have sex with a 50 years old asian guy will go on SA and contact me and want to have sex with me for free, it possible but I think I have a better chance winning the Mega and Power balls lotto 10 times before that happen.

[Kellster]

The girls on the site, not all, but most, are generally on the site out of curiosity. They def understand that most guys will want some action, but they definitely don't want to be labeled or feel like they are a p4 p gal. This can be a little frustrating when trying to negotiate rates to get your monies worth.

However, there is an upside to this: sometimes, you can get laid for free. These girls don't want to feel like a hooker but are definitely on the site for monetary gain. The way they get it has to be structured in such a way that they generally feel the money is for their amazing character, even if we don't give a damn about what comes out of their mouth only what they can do with it. This isn't always the case, as there are plenty of open-minded girls who definitely take the business approach to justify what they do behind closed doors for money.

All in all, we have to understand that women in general go by how they feel, not what makes logical sense. If you can make them feel like the interaction between the 2 of you is a little more personal than transactional, you'll have a better understanding of them mentally. Don't forget the hobby rules to prevent you from getting scammed and have fun. You might get lucky for absolutely free, just like I have and plenty other mongers on the site.

Not disagreeing with you, but note there are also a bunch of pros on SA posing as innocent sugar babies. This is really lame of them to do that and lie- they should just stick to other websites. The whole point of the sugar baby site- at least in my warped line of thinking, is to get the girl next door that isn't banging every guy in the county. If I wanted to see a pro I'd go see a pro.

[Pal5600]

https://www.seeking.com/member/8d614...a-ebfe77e6d384

Looking for 1500/ min per month but will start out at 300 ppm for a couple months. Spent some time with her and it didn't click for me. Nice enough girl, attractive. Something just seemed off.

I agree 300 is alot for her, beside she is too big and too old for me, likely be older and bigger in real person, but other guys like bigger and older women, so who knows, there are always a type of women for other guys out there.

[Pal5600]

The girls on the site, not all, but most, are generally on the site out of curiosity. They def understand that most guys will want some action, but they definitely don't want to be labeled or feel like they are a p4 p gal. This can be a little frustrating when trying to negotiate rates to get your monies worth.

However, there is an upside to this: sometimes, you can get laid for free. These girls don't want to feel like a hooker but are definitely on the site for monetary gain. The way they get it has to be structured in such a way that they generally feel the money is for their amazing character, even if we don't give a damn about what comes out of their mouth only what they can do with it. This isn't always the case, as there are plenty of open-minded girls who definitely take the business approach to justify what they do behind closed doors for money.

All in all, we have to understand that women in general go by how they feel, not what makes logical sense. If you can make them feel like the interaction between the 2 of you is a little more personal than transactional, you'll have a better understanding of them mentally. Don't forget the hobby rules to prevent you from getting scammed and have fun. You might get lucky for absolutely free, just like I have and plenty other mongers on the site.

My point is payment is payment, it is really make any different between paying daily, weekly or monthly, still payment to me. What she trying to tell me is if she take monthly payment then she is not a hooker, but if she take payment daily or per meet then she is a hooker, WTF it's same to me., it have nothing to do with curiosity or not

[MnCuckold]

Saw her today. More than I usually do, at 5. I have no words to describe. Worth 5 and another. PSE plus. Bare, and she is entirely body focused. Did anal and I'm huge.

The real deal.

https://www.seeking.com/member/62b2b...b-e67bc7745543

[Ron M]

All in all, we have to understand that women in general go by how they feel, not what makes logical sense. If you can make them feel like the interaction between the 2 of you is a little more personal than transactional, you'll have a better understanding of them mentally. Don't forget the hobby rules to prevent you from getting scammed and have fun. You might get lucky for absolutely free, just like I have and plenty other mongers on the site.

Absolutely agree with you on this. Although not exactly free, once you get to a personal level it becomes more of a girlfriend experience than a P4 P set up.

[Jayp80]

I'm not sure what everyone else does but I use a cropped picture of myself. I do not show my face. When I switch over to another means of communication is when I will share my real photo. This has worked well for me.

Cropped photos can be reversed image searched so everyone taking this approach should make sure you're not using that full picture elsewhere. Just making sure everyone is aware.

[Jaster191]

Thanks for all the tips again guys.

One more question: when paying do you just pay with cash right when the date starts? Or after? This is for first time meeting I imagine after you could just do PayPal or something.

One girl wants $500 per meet. I asked her what would happen during a meet and this was her response:

Well in the past we do things like get drinks, dinner, and then whatever we wanted to do. If we had a connection we could go back to your place or a hotel and get to know each other more.

I was thinking about telling her that I didn't mind giving her $200 at the start then if I have a good time at the end of the night giving her another $200. What do you guys think? How would this work logistically?

[Eric Lex]

So I ask her why monthly, she said that if she get paid per meet, she will feel like a hooker, but if you get monthly payment then is okay, WTF is going on in these girls head, can anyone figure it out.

The girls on the site, not all, but most, are generally on the site out of curiosity. They def understand that most guys will want some action, but they definitely don't want to be labeled or feel like they are a p4 p gal. This can be a little frustrating when trying to negotiate rates to get your monies worth.

However, there is an upside to this: sometimes, you can get laid for free. These girls don't want to feel like a hooker but are definitely on the site for monetary gain. The way they get it has to be structured in such a way that they generally feel the money is for their amazing character, even if we don't give a damn about what comes out of their mouth only what they can do with it. This isn't always the case, as there are plenty of open-minded girls who definitely take the business approach to justify what they do behind closed doors for money.

All in all, we have to understand that women in general go by how they feel, not what makes logical sense. If you can make them feel like the interaction between the 2 of you is a little more personal than transactional, you'll have a better understanding of them mentally. Don't forget the hobby rules to prevent you from getting scammed and have fun. You might get lucky for absolutely free, just like I have and plenty other mongers on the site.

[FruitNinja]

If you like her, this one is also something else https://www.seeking.com/member/4fe25...e-6e97624b161c she text a 1 am and want to meet the next day before she leave for LA, at first she want 700, I said no, then she low to 400, I said ok, so the next day she text in the morning want to meet at a hotel near ohare before her 4 pm flight to LA, so we agree to meet at 1 pm by ohare before she leave, she text saying please confirm the hotel so we can meet at 1 pm, so around noon I confirm the hotel, then she ghost, WTF why she waste all that time for nothing, I do think she will be back chicago soon, probably have to go through the same BS game with her, again, she is the kind of pussy I am looking for so I have to play the game.

Don't get hung up on one particular girl. Be patient or you will be parted form your money.

[FruitNinja]

So I ask her why monthly, she said that if she get paid per meet, she will feel like a hooker, but if you get monthly payment then is okay, WTF is going on in these girls head, can anyone figure it out.

Why do you think she would be any saner than any other woman. I would have told her "sure, at the end of the month I will pay you the allowance. Where else do you pay for something before you get it? This is a sure way to get parted from your money.

[FruitNinja]

We actually exchange phone number and chatting about meet up, but then she said 3000-4000 per month, and we can meet about 2 times a week, I said I can do 400 per meet and see how we get along, but she just want a monthly allowance so I said no, idk maybe she change her mind now or maybe not, she is the type of girl I would interested / invest my money and time, but not everything work out the way I want it. Oh well.

Move on. There are plenty of other girls on the site. I never entertain any girl that has high expectations and is not willing to compromise. Poker face.

[FruitNinja]

Thanks guys for the advice!

I actually took myself off search because I initially got spammed by a bunch of girls I really wasn't remotely interested in. I guess you guys think that's a bad idea?

For the pictures, you guys are using real pictures of yourselves? I just put someone who looks like me. Maybe do that for the face shot and put some real body shots with face cropped out?

For first meet ups I should only pay for dinner or coffee or whatever right, don't pay them just to have dinner?

Thanks again really appreciate the guidance.

I'm not sure what everyone else does but I use a cropped picture of myself. I do not show my face. When I switch over to another means of communication is when I will share my real photo. This has worked well for me.

[FruitNinja]

I think the overall response rate is par for the course. The instant dinner invitation may be pushing some more cautious (and therefore more real and reasonable) girls off. I usually start with a little bit more casual banter about things on their profile or the site in general. If there's any kind of exchange at that point I try to move it over to text / email ASAP, and then move quickly to logistics. The site's messaging system isn't the greatest, but if a girl can't carry on a simple exchange in a decent amount of time, then odds are it won't work out anyway. I also wouldn't rule out a follow-up message to non-responders who still show up online. Its not like you have anything to lose and sometimes getting back on the top of their message list is all that was needed.

But the dinner invite before you've even exchanged pleasantries may be giving some girls pause. Even a quick bit of back-and-forth and then moving communication off the site may put more of them at ease. And of course some may be more comfortable with coffee during the day, etc. Than a formal dinner as a first meet.

The Uber option depends on each situation. I've paid a $15 Uber for a girl to get to a room that we were going to spend hours in at a PPM I found fair. But a long-distance round trip would make everything more expensive and difficult (probably the same even if both parties were driving). In general girls that can't manage their own transportation are going to be harder to deal with in general so I'd hope they were worth it in all the other ways!

You make a good point. Just like any other dating app you need to make the girl comfortable before you ask to meet. Especially girls that are new to the site. You have to realize they are nervous. They don't know who you are or what your intentions are. This can be done in many ways. Once she feels comfortable then you try and move it to another means of communications. Sa is not much different than real life. Just as in real life the key to a girls heart is laughter.

[Chicago41]

I'm starting to figure out a lot of the people on SA are just plain old time wasters. I've had three good meetups, but at least 3/4 of the girls I contact either ignore me or respond with like a 5-word sentence. Most that respond just end up ghosting. Like someone said below, plenty of antisocial creeps making fake profiles, plenty of girls on there just messing around too. And a lot of GPS. I probably won't renew. I specifically joined this to meet 18-19 year olds and they're all flaky as hell on that site. I don't know how you guys have the patience for it. The ones I've met have been 30's and up and great. I'd rather bone a hot 30-year-old who knows what she's doing than waste time trying to hook up with these young flakes.