"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[CoolPix]

The link you posted is to your messages instead of the SB with GPS.

Safe mongering and sugaring!

Yep, I'm an idiot. Here's the link to her profile: https://www.seeking.com/member/9bf02...e-28d489822c8b.

[F Scott]

And, my next prediction is that if SA doesn't find a way to keep the morons that don't know the difference between escorting and sugaring away, it will suffer a similar fate to BP.

I totally agree! This past year there have been so many pros joining SA in my area that it is becoming a little discouraging working through them all. How many brothers here report suspect profiles to SA?

[RWarNmsn69]

Has anyone dealt with this one before?

https://www.seeking.com/messages/sen...9-85337358da9c

I shared a couple of texts with her the last couple of days and boy, talk about GPS. The allowance she seeks is beyond what I would offer I don't care how attractive she is.

Oh, and she used to have the handle Liv and Luv but has put up a new profile.

Happy hunting.

The link you posted is to your messages instead of the SB with GPS.

Safe mongering and sugaring!

[CoolPix]

Has anyone dealt with this one before?

https://www.seeking.com/messages/sen...9-85337358da9c

I shared a couple of texts with her the last couple of days and boy, talk about GPS. The allowance she seeks is beyond what I would offer I don't care how attractive she is.

Oh, and she used to have the handle Liv and Luv but has put up a new profile.

Happy hunting.

[JZLizard]

Maybe want to check into those royalty payments. Looks like your fame is spreading everywhere (or at least coast to coast):

There is a real Dean of sugaring who has zillions of posts on the Richmond VA thread, JZLizard. You should read what he has to say. He also thinks escorts are the biggest risk to SA, and he said that before BP was killed.

Zillions!

Yes, I was aware. Thing is, I'm not really an expert SD at all. I'm a part-timer -- I spend most of my time with my SO and I'm happy in my relationship so I prioritize that. The successes I have in the bowl are no different than my civy dating experiences, it's just that it's hard to get laid in the civy dating scene without it interfering with an LTR, so sugaring is a nice option. It also makes it easier to establish a barrier against emotional attachment. What is perceived as SD skills here is really just skills in understanding and handling relationships with women that I developed at a very young age, it's an incredibly useful skill to have in the bowl.

But he's right. All of the shit that happened to BP and the crackdown at SA I laid down here in this thread several years before it happened. At that time, I got a lot of opposition; was told I was wrong and that it would never come to fruition. But it did.

And, my next prediction is that if SA doesn't find a way to keep the morons that don't know the difference between escorting and sugaring away, it will suffer a similar fate to BP.

[CoolPix]

For my fellow mongers, this one is in your area for the next couple of days and is looking for an SD or two, or six. She contacted me first, wants a pretty penny (too rich for my blood), and I suspect a pro. I'd take one for the team but I'm not in RVA right now.

Cheers!

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...1-39a4c888c4d6

[RogerOver]

I'd actually rather speak for myself than to be constantly referred to or have my thoughts relayed. Whenever I take the time to say something in writing here, I type what ever it is in a given context. When someone paraphrases only part of what I said, that context is lost. So, it you want to relay some opinion I've provided in the past, it's best to just say "another poster once said....." or provide a link to the post where I actually said it so that it can be viewed in the context of the original conversation. Nobody wants to be referenced continually unless they either need their ego fed or they are benefiting through royalty payments or something.

I wouldn't mind if it were once in a while but it does wear out its welcome when done continually.

Maybe want to check into those royalty payments. Looks like your fame is spreading everywhere (or at least coast to coast):

There is a real Dean of sugaring who has zillions of posts on the Richmond VA thread, JZLizard. You should read what he has to say. He also thinks escorts are the biggest risk to SA, and he said that before BP was killed.

Zillions!

[JZLizard]

Sure thing. You couldn't argue with a description like prolific poster, though, could you?

I'd actually rather speak for myself than to be constantly referred to or have my thoughts relayed. Whenever I take the time to say something in writing here, I type what ever it is in a given context. When someone paraphrases only part of what I said, that context is lost. So, it you want to relay some opinion I've provided in the past, it's best to just say "another poster once said....." or provide a link to the post where I actually said it so that it can be viewed in the context of the original conversation. Nobody wants to be referenced continually unless they either need their ego fed or they are benefiting through royalty payments or something.

I wouldn't mind if it were once in a while but it does wear out its welcome when done continually.

[FarFarAway]

Once again, I would appreciate not being associated with any special titles with regard to this thread, or to have it implied that I'm other than than a poster on equal footing as everyone else-- good intentions or not, I just don't want the title. Thanks JL

Sure thing. You couldn't argue with a description like prolific poster, though, could you?

[Mark User]

She's a part-time MP girl.

You could guess "military police" or more likely "massage parlor".

[Kwagmire]

I just noticed that the Whats Your Price site has eliminated the "Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby" option under the "what you're looking for" relationship types that both men and women pick when we're setting up our profiles on the site.

So, our esteemed govt / moral police via FOSTA / SESTA made a fairly useless site now almost totally useless. WYP works where they guy needs to pay each time he wants to message with someone, however, now it doesn't make sense to pay to message before you can even know what kind of relationship the woman is open to.

Bummer, because I did manage to get laid on WYP recently. She turned out to be heavier than her pics, and well on her way to being an alcoholic at 24 so I won't see her again, but it was a trip to the FC.

WYP and SA are owned by the same guy. If his lawyers are advising him to remove references to "sugar" on WYP, this may not bode well for SA. Hopefully they'll move the whole thing overseas pretty soon.

[Assaholic]

Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard, but his opinion is that giving sugar is a way to avoid more complex entanglements w / a SB. It also makes it clear that you are in control. I recently went to the FC w / a young Asian, she told me in advance that whatever I wanted to give was fine, I put 140 in an envelope I left her in her apartment. She was '*completely satisfied' by our encounter.

Right on bro. I'm really glad you found your prize.

Where I live, I'm practically surrounded by young Asians (the only flavor that really does the trick for me and junior), however on SA I found them to be completely unapproachable. Part of it might be that I'm only after 9's and 10's. Another reason could be that I don't look good on resume, so to speak. However, once I get to the first meet, I'm very good at subtly directing the conversation and putting the girl at ease. One of my 'tricks" is to talk to them just as if I was their BF. For example, I talk about the goofy / funny situations or predicaments that we all get into every day, and I express how I felt helpless or confused. This helps them to think of you as just another one of her social friends, rather than as a weirdo, or a stalker, or a stuck-up customer, which in turn would make them feel like a ho.

Another "trick" is not stay silent for too long. I'm not a talkative person, so I have to force myself.

Also I never ask her if she's comfortable with talking it to the next level. I take the "one thing led to another" approach, and judge where her mind is at as I progress, and she'll give you clear signals if you pay attention, as to whether she's ready or not. In other words, I never give the impression that the only reason I'm there is to take her to the FC. In fact I mention that I'm not interested in sex, per se, and that I get plenty from other girls.

As you might have guessed, I don't enjoy pros at all. Instead, I relish the pleasure and challenge of turning "good" girls to the dark side, LOL.

Of course it very much depends on the girl's attitude and disposition too. I've come across many whom I couldn't even get to crack a smile no matter what I tried, but those are fairly rare. Anyway, for someone like me, who's very choosy, yesterday's session was hands down legendary.

[JZLizard]

Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard

Once again, I would appreciate not being associated with any special titles with regard to this thread, or to have it implied that I'm other than than a poster on equal footing as everyone else-- good intentions or not, I just don't want the title. Thanks JL

[FarFarAway]

Personally, I think it was a proper thing to do, especially if she was as hot as you describe and you had a great time that you would like to repeat. But that's just one monger's opinion. There are others who will tell you to walk away a happy man. But I also suppose it depends on the overall attitude of the chik who's allowing you to have your way with her.

Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard, but his opinion is that giving sugar is a way to avoid more complex entanglements w / a SB. It also makes it clear that you are in control. I recently went to the FC w / a young Asian, she told me in advance that whatever I wanted to give was fine, I put 140 in an envelope I left her in her apartment. She was '*completely satisfied' by our encounter.

[CoolPix]

Damage: Three bills. She wanted no $ - I insisted. If you guys think that was a mistake on my part, please tell me. I'm not sure myself if I handled it properly.

Personally, I think it was a proper thing to do, especially if she was as hot as you describe and you had a great time that you would like to repeat. But that's just one monger's opinion. There are others who will tell you to walk away a happy man. But I also suppose it depends on the overall attitude of the chik who's allowing you to have your way with her.