"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**DrSummer** · 06-24-18 09:43

Well, answers from girls were all over the place. Few below:

"You give me allowance, I go with you for dinner and movies".

"We have good time, and you give me allowance". Further follow up confirmed she is Ok with intimacy.

"Exchange money for companionship". Further follow up confirmed she is not Ok with intimacy.

In my experience, even the term "mutually beneficial arrangement" is misinterpreted (especially girls 18-22), Almost sure thing I have confirmed is when they say "You help me, I help you". That always means she is ready for it. Then the term "intimacy" is not a sure shot either. One time, a girl was asking for a unreasonable allowance, so I wanted to find out what was in the store. She responded "sure thing" for the question on intimacy. When I asked what specifically we are going to do, she came up with "non-penetrational sex". Ok, I digged deeper. For her, intimacy is giving me a hand job. Go figure.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

Originally Posted by Zcochran00 [View Original Post]

My immediate assumption would have been either the standard P4 P approach (meet, bang, "allowance" on the way out), or the idealized version promoted by SA and various news articles (lots of cash and shopping, but probably still with sex involved).

I'm curious, what kinds of answers did you get back?

**RVASpider** · 06-23-18 23:20

Originally Posted by MrDisDat [View Original Post]

Just be careful when discussing roses with these "SBs" as I have buddy who got burned by a female cop. His encounter is not one you any monger wants to experience. Careful guys with these arrangements, always follow your heart and be safe!

Can you let us know how he got burned?

**MrDisDat** · 06-23-18 15:02

Originally Posted by JustLonely [View Original Post]

She just sent me an offer for 150 through WYP today. I have no public photo there and a bio only saying looking for fun. But I still get out of the blue offers for dates. So I am guessing she is a pro like many on there in recent months.

Just be careful when discussing roses with these "SBs" as I have buddy who got burned by a female cop. His encounter is not one you any monger wants to experience. Careful guys with these arrangements, always follow your heart and be safe!

**VAvet** · 06-23-18 14:16

More importantly, has anyone seen her LOL. She looks hot.

Originally Posted by CantWinLosin [View Original Post]

Same girl. I have multiple profiles there. They come in handy for several things. No big deal.

**JZLizard** · 06-23-18 12:50

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

When a girl throws the phrase "Traditional SD / SB Relationship", what does it typically mean to them? I asked follow up questions from several girls what that means, they gave me different answers.

In my mind's interpretation, the word "traditional" combined with "relationship" would typically mean the "older man / younger mistress" situation, where he has a wife in another town and keeps the SB in an apartment or some other situation for regular fucking and financial support. To me, relationship is the more important of the two words, and in my experience with women when they inject that word in, they are usually implying something in particular that involves some level of emotional support or attachment.

Problem is, women are all over the place with the notion of "what they want" and it changes faster than the weather. What they meant when they wrote their profile, and what they mean when explaining it later may or may not be remotely related.

**Madaboutmax** · 06-23-18 12:19

I will add that urbandictionary.com is go to reference for understanding the younger generation. If you look up sugar daddy, sugar baby or arrangement you will get a good take on the expectations of most of the younger generation.

Originally Posted by Zcochran00 [View Original Post]

My immediate assumption would have been either the standard P4 P approach (meet, bang, "allowance" on the way out), or the idealized version promoted by SA and various news articles (lots of cash and shopping, but probably still with sex involved).

I'm curious, what kinds of answers did you get back?

**Zcochran00** · 06-23-18 12:07

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

When a girl throws the phrase "Traditional SD / SB Relationship", what does it typically mean to them? I asked follow up questions from several girls what that means, they gave me different answers.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

My immediate assumption would have been either the standard P4 P approach (meet, bang, "allowance" on the way out), or the idealized version promoted by SA and various news articles (lots of cash and shopping, but probably still with sex involved).

I'm curious, what kinds of answers did you get back?

**Madaboutmax** · 06-23-18 10:11

I've heard this comment often and I use it as a conversation starter to understand what it means to them.

Like you said, not everyone has the same understanding of what that means.

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

When a girl throws the phrase "Traditional SD / SB Relationship", what does it typically mean to them? I asked follow up questions from several girls what that means, they gave me different answers.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

**DrSummer** · 06-23-18 06:55

When a girl throws the phrase "Traditional SD / SB Relationship", what does it typically mean to them? I asked follow up questions from several girls what that means, they gave me different answers.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

**CantWinLosin** · 06-22-18 19:56

Originally Posted by Icedam [View Original Post]

Warning, so I just wrote top and she pretty much outed herself after we had M&G from the other address.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-ec53b93ac1af

Same as.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...0-1f12ee6f7467

Same girl. I have multiple profiles there. They come in handy for several things. No big deal.

**RVASpider** · 06-21-18 13:07

Originally Posted by Icedam [View Original Post]

Warning, so I just wrote top and she pretty much outed herself after we had M&G from the other address.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-ec53b93ac1af

Same as.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...0-1f12ee6f7467

I've come across a few with multiple profiles, including one I've seen a couple of times. How was the M&G? Is she offering anything other than public dates?

**FarFarAway** · 06-21-18 11:38

It seems that Google does not like it if you use a privacy browser like Epic. I have bragged about how easy it is to use your gmail to check texts to your Android phone. Now, when I try to log into gmail to do that using Epic, the browser slows to a crawl. If I use Safari (even with private browsing), I can log right in. Google wants to know who I am, obviously, and track me. These people are slime. We can only hope that the day never comes that google has to give up all the info they have been collecting on all of us to the secret police.

**FarFarAway** · 06-21-18 00:31

Originally Posted by CephlapodLove [View Original Post]

I just ran my GV number through that website and got the following reply: Searching billions of phones we did not return a valid result for XXX-YYY-ZZZZ.

I had a buddy who had a GV number tied to his phone. I was talking to him at one point and he crossed a cellphone boundary and the call was dropped. Of course my number was still there on his phone so he hit "redial" and his phone called me back, not his GV number. That was another way he inadvertently out of himself. Then another buddy kept his monger phone on while he was at home and he suspects that that "parked at location" was run through an GPS / county property record search as a girl ran his number through an app called "Mr. Number" and his real name & address came up in relation to his monger GV number. Sigh.

I guess there is truly no hiding, just hoping that there is enough distance between you and a girl who may not be too tech savvy.

Here is another website I have been using that seems to do a decent job and doesn't charge.

nuwber.com

**Icedam** · 06-20-18 22:55

Warning, so I just wrote top and she pretty much outed herself after we had M&G from the other address.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-ec53b93ac1af

Same as.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...0-1f12ee6f7467

**Cephlapod Love** · 06-19-18 00:49

Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]

Thanks for the tip about the Epic browser. That's really great.

I know what you mean about google. I had a GV number that I used as my hobby phone, tied to a completely separate hobby gmail address. One day someone on the CT boards mentioned a site called usphonebook.com. This is kind of like all the other "people look up" sites except that they give a lot more info about a reverse number lookup than other sites without having to pay. Its good for checking girls out before seeing them. Of course, when I first found out about the site I looked up my personal cell and my GV hobby number. The site had full and accurate info on me linked to my hobby phone #, and completely incorrect info on my personal cell. Obviously, I deleted that google account immediately. All I can hope is that none of the girls I used that number with ever looked me up, and hopefully their lives are in enough disarray that they lost their phone and all their contacts. I worked very hard to keep the hobby phone anonymous, but obviously there was a leak somewhere.

I just ran my GV number through that website and got the following reply: Searching billions of phones we did not return a valid result for XXX-YYY-ZZZZ.

I had a buddy who had a GV number tied to his phone. I was talking to him at one point and he crossed a cellphone boundary and the call was dropped. Of course my number was still there on his phone so he hit "redial" and his phone called me back, not his GV number. That was another way he inadvertently out of himself. Then another buddy kept his monger phone on while he was at home and he suspects that that "parked at location" was run through an GPS / county property record search as a girl ran his number through an app called "Mr. Number" and his real name & address came up in relation to his monger GV number. Sigh.

I guess there is truly no hiding, just hoping that there is enough distance between you and a girl who may not be too tech savvy.