"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**JZLizard** · 04-02-18 07:18

Originally Posted by Statecho [View Original Post]

I tried search and go through earlier pages from 2015. No luck to find HollywoodGuys 5 step game plan. Can HollywoodGuy or other seniors here repost it??

Thanks for helping out new guys here.

Start with the Index and FAQ. However, I highly recommend looking at it as an overall glimpse into the perspective of various SDs, and not so much a how-to guide to be followed to the letter. Read it and try to develop your own style. I've written a lot about what works for me, but my game hinges on exercise as a mandatory component of it, and I would have diminished results due to lower T levels and sexual performance if I stopped exercising and let myself go, I'm sure.

HWG's "stepped game plan", to the best of my knowledge, hinged on sending out pre-typed marketing blasts to lots of girls offering specific amounts of money. I don't know if people still do this, but I do know SA now detects this "form letter" approach to mails and some members have reported account suspension over these marketing blasts. Further more, this technique only works with pros, a real SB will get creeped out by offers for money in the first message -- you have to be much smoother than this if you want to land a real SB. What's more, increasingly, it's a very bad idea to make any sort of monetary offer for sex over digital communications, and it not only puts the hobby in jeopardy, and you at legal risk, but it draws more pros to SA and makes it harder to find a real SB. So much so, that if you read some of the SB boards in other cities, you'll find a lot of sugaring noobs don't even know the difference between an SB and a utr/pro.

**Madaboutmax** · 04-02-18 04:43

I'm sure it happens, but you can bet it is much more rare than they will admit. Girls will lie about the allowance they have received and about having platonic relationships.

There are all kinds of forums with advice to girls on how to land a "Platonic" sugar daddy. Most advice involves leading the guy on, making him believe intimacy is around the corner while extracting as much money from the guy as possible. They give advice on how to find gullable, desperate men with money. I'm sure many girls initially join with the intent of being platonic only to learn that isn't realistic. They either leave the site or reset their standards.

I think many girls also falsely claim to be platonic to their boyfriends, friends and family that learn about their sugar lifestyle.

I've known several girls that claimed to be platonic in their profile, but were open to intimacy. One had a boyfriend who knew she was on the site and she told him she was only platonic and even showed him her profile as proof. Another claimed to use it to weed out the straight Pay 4 Play guys, but was open to it for the right guy if the connection was there.

I made some newbie mistakes early on and allowed some girls to get money from me before "the panties hit the floor". That doesn't happen anymore, but we all make rookie mistakes. That's why it is valuable to learn from others and read this forum.

Originally Posted by RVASpider [View Original Post]

Do some guys have non-physical relationships with SBs? I've come across a few girls that say they get paid to hang out with men without having to do anything sexual. These girls want $400+ to go out to dinner and say that talking about paying for sex is off limits. I'm sure for some there is a crazy amount they would accept to have sex but I am curious to find out if anyone pays for a truly platonic relationship.

**RVASpider** · 04-01-18 23:56

Do some guys have non-physical relationships with SBs? I've come across a few girls that say they get paid to hang out with men without having to do anything sexual. These girls want $400+ to go out to dinner and say that talking about paying for sex is off limits. I'm sure for some there is a crazy amount they would accept to have sex but I am curious to find out if anyone pays for a truly platonic relationship.

**Zcochran00** · 04-01-18 12:09

Originally Posted by Statecho [View Original Post]

I tried search and go through earlier pages from 2015. No luck to find HollywoodGuys 5 step game plan. Can HollywoodGuy or other seniors here repost it??

Thanks for helping out new guys here.

It's linked in the thread FAQ I put together a couple years ago, towards the bottom of the "Part 2: Contacting" entry here: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post2480292.

**John HandCock** · 04-01-18 11:13

Originally Posted by Statecho [View Original Post]

I tried search and go through earlier pages from 2015. No luck to find HollywoodGuys 5 step game plan. Can HollywoodGuy or other seniors here repost it??

Thanks for helping out new guys here.

Go to the LA Sd thread. You should find him there. He has certain taste that work for the group he is searching in. At one time his max was 100 and anything spent during meeting was deducted from the 100. Really doubt his sb came from sa but the LA thread is where you will find him.

**Bummm** · 04-01-18 10:14

And just because they are gorgeous doesn't mean shit, I had a gorgeous one but once we met I soon realized I had a GPS girl on my hands. Her sexual skills and attitude were lacking and crappy.

Originally Posted by MossyMoss [View Original Post]

Hey all,

This is my first post on here, but I have been around the game for a little while, and am just now trying to get back into it after a few year hiatus. I realize it may be asking for a lot being my first post here.

The SA site is new to me and I know there is 660 pages on here of information, and some very good information as well, just been too much to find everything I am looking for.

I am trying to stay within a pretty specific area near where I live (middle peninsula).

Found one girl that is gorgeous, and was wondering if anyone had any Intel on her before taking the monthly plunge on the site (or if she is able to read messages without full membership). Her profile is Skm77.

Again any info about the site would be beneficial.

**Statecho** · 04-01-18 09:46

Originally Posted by JoeBogus [View Original Post]

From a midwest hobbist I just want to thank all of you here on the SB thread. In a month I've contacted 6 or 8 POTS and run all of them through the 5 steps. Not one that has gotten to step 4 has turned down the $100 per meerting offer.

My first success was one that short circuited my steps and texted me to come see her on her day off from work. Went right to the FC. She was just OK in my eyes, but she wants another meeting.

This is fun.

I tried search and go through earlier pages from 2015. No luck to find HollywoodGuys 5 step game plan. Can HollywoodGuy or other seniors here repost it??

Thanks for helping out new guys here.

**Statecho** · 03-31-18 23:29

Two weeks in SA for suger bowl play, I think I scored one UTR, one Escort and only one true SB but she is not that good in bed and I am too lazy to teach her I may not repeat.

It is more complicated that I expect- a total different game. I would say P411 and USAAC sometime is more straightforward and easier to play. Here are my thoughts and your comment are welcome.

1. didn't expect there are so many scammers- escorts, UTRs and even worse real sacmmers who aim to rob or blackmail you. No such issue on P411. Have to ask SA why we SDs have to deal with these crap when we paying 80-90/ Mon. For the premium membership.

2 it is much more time consuming to hunt for good SBs. I am still in game with 2-3 pot but when my work getting busy, I prob don't have the time play the game. Seems to me it is easier just read reviews on ter and find a highly reviewed GFE escort and make reservation then I am done- No scammers and risk free.

3. While we SDs have to weed out the nongenuine SBs, the new joined college SBs are scarred off SA by flood of P2 P offers. Anyone can give SA a solution on these. I think they should probably just verify identify of everyone so this site is clean.

Anyway. That is my rant. Now I am going back to textings w my POTs- these two both want M&G next week and hope I can score a good SB.

**Al Melrose** · 03-31-18 16:48

Originally Posted by FruitNinja [View Original Post]

It is full of hookers but I have been able to weed out the gems. I mean it is what it is. The young ones are bat shit crazy. But they can be loads of fun. I suppose we are in a sense. Would many of our friends and associates approve? I had this nice little filipina lined up the other day after days of posting. We agree to a place and time. I go out there and she goes dead. Waste of and hour and a half.

Did she live in Bolingbrook? I met one who told me some guy got crazy on her for standing her up. She also told me some guy abandoned her in Indiana after doing her and paying with fake money. No idea if her stories are true or not. But a nice looking little Filipina with big tits.

**AOneFred7734** · 03-31-18 07:36

Originally Posted by TheMarto1 [View Original Post]

225 for her time very direct to the point 225 for pop you poping in 10 second you say good bye to 225.

Can you pm her number to me? Thanks.

**TheMarto1** · 03-31-18 01:00

225 for her time very direct to the point 225 for pop you poping in 10 second you say good bye to 225.

**FarFarAway** · 03-31-18 00:57

Some here mock those of us who are techies or very cautious or both. So be it. I like this trick I just learned for my Android smart burner TracFone. With it you get a gmail account. I was noticing on the phone that when texts came in, it would briefly show something about the email address I set up. I wondered. I had never actually used the email account, but when I got in, there were all of my texts, in the form of emails to that address.

Why do I care about this? I have a SO, and therefore I never, never have my burner in my home. This created large blocks of time when I can't read texts on my phone. Not anymore.

**TheMarto1** · 03-30-18 23:53

Just quick bite and cash.

**Jnoc2018** · 03-30-18 16:36

Originally Posted by MossyMoss [View Original Post]

Hey all,

This is my first post on here, but I have been around the game for a little while, and am just now trying to get back into it after a few year hiatus. I realize it may be asking for a lot being my first post here.

The SA site is new to me and I know there is 660 pages on here of information, and some very good information as well, just been too much to find everything I am looking for.

I am trying to stay within a pretty specific area near where I live (middle peninsula).

Found one girl that is gorgeous, and was wondering if anyone had any Intel on her before taking the monthly plunge on the site (or if she is able to read messages without full membership). Her profile is Skm77.

Again any info about the site would be beneficial.

I joined SA after CL, rip, went down.

I would appreciate any helpful info and advise. I tried to put my email and phone number (a number of different ways) and it was rejected.

Thanks in advance.