"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[TexasMonger]

Well my ATF unexpectedly went on her period so I made a date with my little church girl for tonite instead. I got all ready and she re-confirmed at 6 to come by at 9. So I popped my vitamin c and figured I would get a little rest and watch some tv before it was time to leave. The next thing I know she is txting me about 8 to say she had an emergency and had to cancel. I hate wasting my c's but I figured its the weekend tomorrow so fuck it. I'll make up for it Friday, sat and Sunday.

But earlier in the day a girl I had blown off multiple times over the last two weeks had txted saying that the site was bs and I was bs and so she was basically throwing in the towel. So I txted her back at 9 and told her I would get her at 11. She lived too far to take back home so we agreed to a car date to talk and just see if there was any chemistry.

I went to her house and out she came smiling, jumped in the car and we went down a couple of houses to talk. Things heated up fast so I suggested we find a quiet spot. She said she hadn't had sex in at least 3 months which was believable as her pussy was instantly wet and basically stayed that way for an hour.

I can still smell her on me now. I won't shower it off till the am. Some girls I might jump straight in the shower after, but not this time. She was 28,5'6" and 104, and as experienced as a girl should be for her age. She had moves and knew the right things to say to keep me hot. She was a 7/9/9/8 and I am sure she will show me some better moves when we aren't in the backseat. So I made a date 2 plan for Monday in the FC.

Hey Hollywood.

This girl has a perfect body. I can only speak for myself, but I'm sure the guys here agree. We would like to see more of her.

Cheers.

TM.

[HollywoodGuy]

Brothers,

Silly question probably but what does Viagra do for you?

I am not sure if it will help me.

I have no ED issues with the first cup.

I could use help with the second cup. I do rest a bit after the first. Can get hard for second but cannot sometimes finish the second.

Will Viagra help finishing the second?

Sorry for the question but don't know who to ask.

I use see. Really firms things up. More than that. I couldn't say.

[FTP1999]

Brothers,

Silly question probably but what does Viagra do for you?

I am not sure if it will help me.

I have no ED issues with the first cup.

I could use help with the second cup. I do rest a bit after the first. Can get hard for second but cannot sometimes finish the second.

Will Viagra help finishing the second?

Sorry for the question but don't know who to ask.

[HollywoodGuy]

From a midwest hobbist I just want to thank all of you here on the SB thread. In a month I've contacted 6 or 8 POTS and run all of them through the 5 steps. Not one that has gotten to step 4 has turned down the $100 per meerting offer.

My first success was one that short circuited my steps and texted me to come see her on her day off from work. Went right to the FC. She was just OK in my eyes, but she wants another meeting.

This is fun.

Even when they short circuit I still double close with step 5 just to be sure there are absolutely no misunderstandings. But congrats.

[JoeBogus]

From a midwest hobbist I just want to thank all of you here on the SB thread. In a month I've contacted 6 or 8 POTS and run all of them through the 5 steps. Not one that has gotten to step 4 has turned down the $100 per meerting offer.

My first success was one that short circuited my steps and texted me to come see her on her day off from work. Went right to the FC. She was just OK in my eyes, but she wants another meeting.

This is fun.

[HollywoodGuy]

Well my ATF unexpectedly went on her period so I made a date with my little church girl for tonite instead. I got all ready and she re-confirmed at 6 to come by at 9. So I popped my vitamin c and figured I would get a little rest and watch some tv before it was time to leave. The next thing I know she is txting me about 8 to say she had an emergency and had to cancel. I hate wasting my c's but I figured its the weekend tomorrow so fuck it. I'll make up for it Friday, sat and Sunday.

But earlier in the day a girl I had blown off multiple times over the last two weeks had txted saying that the site was bs and I was bs and so she was basically throwing in the towel. So I txted her back at 9 and told her I would get her at 11. She lived too far to take back home so we agreed to a car date to talk and just see if there was any chemistry.

I went to her house and out she came smiling, jumped in the car and we went down a couple of houses to talk. Things heated up fast so I suggested we find a quiet spot. She said she hadn't had sex in at least 3 months which was believable as her pussy was instantly wet and basically stayed that way for an hour.

I can still smell her on me now. I won't shower it off till the am. Some girls I might jump straight in the shower after, but not this time. She was 28,5'6" and 104, and as experienced as a girl should be for her age. She had moves and knew the right things to say to keep me hot. She was a 7/9/9/8 and I am sure she will show me some better moves when we aren't in the backseat. So I made a date 2 plan for Monday in the FC.

[FyrGuy33]

I recently purchased a new home (new for me anyway) in Florida. Since I am back here without the warden painting and getting it ready for our eventual move the end of the year, I decided to search on SA for some action. I have had 2 FC trips in less than a week. The first is a mid 40's MILF, 7/9/9/9. We met at a local watering hole for a m&g. Typical MILF that is divorced and tired of the losers she meets thru traditional dating so she decided to give SA a try. We get along very well and so within 1 hour we are off to the FC. 4 hours later and 3 incredible rounds, we are parting ways. I had decided to try some advice given here and never had a sugar discussion. I thought I was going to get away with it for free, but alas, she asks about sugar. She never mentioned any amount so I give her $100 to see what happens. Well, she was very happy with that and off she went. Glad to say, she is looking to get together again soon.

SB#2 is a 29 why / o nurse. 8/8/7/8. Similar encounter to the MILF, again no sugar discussion. 2 rounds instead of 3 as we spent a bit more time talking and drinking beer, LOL. Now comes the best part; she never asks for, nor do I offer, any sugar. Apparently she had no expectation of any and has been asking when we can get together again.

All I can say is that sometimes the SB hunt turns out really, really good.

[HollywoodGuy]

I've noticed an increasing number of girls who demand WYP type interactions--pay for the privilege of the M&G. They are putting more hurdles out there for us to see them. I guess they are fishing for the elusive mega daddy -the super bowl of Sugardom--to whisk them off to the Caribbean and buy them designer duds while covering their rent, utilities and grocery bills. I recently chatted up 3 young college beauties who know their "worth" and will only meet if I pay them. "My time is valuable" you know. They somehow don't get the job interview concept. So what if they meet a few duds? That's life. So what happens is they sit on the bench with zero-to few dates and forego an allowance to get in the game. If they aren't desperate then they can wait for the brass ring to come --or not.

The girls you mention just are not interested. But the overall interest on a SD site far outstrips a mainstream dating site. I think I easily get maybe only a 10% to 20% overall "I might be interested" response to my intro letter. And only a fraction of them are ready to get serious. Rejection and unrealistic expectations are pretty normal for me on a daily basis. But paying for an M&G is just ridiculous (as I am sure we all agree). In my work life I have always worked at the wholesale or manufacturing level. My friends would always say I should open a retail store. My response was always "I am not in business to educate anyone". These wannabe SB's are no different. If they are lower priced GPS, ready to rock, and true hotties, then I can understand. But if they don't even show a willingness to live in the real world?

I have slowed it down a bit this year. I have my ATF (9 dates a month for 7 months), a wanna be regular (only 5 dates so far), and a thick stripper I see for free about once a month. No shortage of girls that wanna M&G but no one I am dying to meet in my price range. Got a CL hit from a girl with no cel phone, but very cute. So just letting the monthly budget get lower and lower till my finances get better.

[FredMoore]

That's an example of a guy driving up the average price for the other guys. This is the result of the large number of GPS women out there. Unless they are really hurting for sugar they can hold out for the lottery type hit.

I've noticed an increasing number of girls who demand WYP type interactions--pay for the privilege of the M&G. They are putting more hurdles out there for us to see them. I guess they are fishing for the elusive mega daddy -the super bowl of Sugardom--to whisk them off to the Caribbean and buy them designer duds while covering their rent, utilities and grocery bills. I recently chatted up 3 young college beauties who know their "worth" and will only meet if I pay them. "My time is valuable" you know. They somehow don't get the job interview concept. So what if they meet a few duds? That's life. So what happens is they sit on the bench with zero-to few dates and forego an allowance to get in the game. If they aren't desperate then they can wait for the brass ring to come --or not.

[Mike7794]

If I had that kind of disposable income -- I would NOT be using AM!! The guy should be reading this forum!

That's an example of a guy driving up the average price for the other guys. This is the result of the large number of GPS women out there. Unless they are really hurting for sugar they can hold out for the lottery type hit.

[FyrGuy33]

I want to thank Hollywood Guy for his 5-step plan and generous advice. Wish I had followed it before meeting this SB. Experience is an expensive teacher. I am brand new to the sugar bowl. Tried SA in Japan and got completely fleeced by a Taiwanese girl on my second date. She is 31 years old, slim, attractive. She told me she was just looking for a lover. I am 41, so it was somewhat believable. We had dinner the first date and she seemed very sweet. The second date after dinner she told me again she was feeling lonely, and just wanted companionship. We visited a hotel. Long story short, she hit me up for money after we got into the room, asked me for payment before the deed, which I foolishly paid, and then she told me that was just for cuddling, and asked for more for sex. I stared at her in disbelief. This sweet girl I had spent a few hours talking to was a total con artist. I asked for my money back. She refused, and I considered my options. Ugly situation. I told her to get out, and barely managed to keep it together. I have never been taken like that before, and I have probably banged 200+ hookers in my life.

Hopefully my experience will help someone out there. Confirm expectations, and be careful what situation you get into.

I don't know how much she took you for, but at least there is a lesson in it. Even with utr's I never pay up front. Sometimes you just have to walk away.

[JZLizard]

I want to thank Hollywood Guy for his 5-step plan and generous advice. Wish I had followed it before meeting this SB. Experience is an expensive teacher. I am brand new to the sugar bowl. Tried SA in Japan and got completely fleeced by a Taiwanese girl on my second date. She is 31 years old, slim, attractive. She told me she was just looking for a lover. I am 41, so it was somewhat believable. We had dinner the first date and she seemed very sweet. The second date after dinner she told me again she was feeling lonely, and just wanted companionship. We visited a hotel. Long story short, she hit me up for money after we got into the room, asked me for payment before the deed, which I foolishly paid, and then she told me that was just for cuddling, and asked for more for sex. I stared at her in disbelief. This sweet girl I had spent a few hours talking to was a total con artist. I asked for my money back. She refused, and I considered my options. Ugly situation. I told her to get out, and barely managed to keep it together. I have never been taken like that before, and I have probably banged 200+ hookers in my life.

Hopefully my experience will help someone out there. Confirm expectations, and be careful what situation you get into.

Sorry you got taken, I would imagine being in a foreign country would add to the sting. The Jeezlizard Plan (tm) is not as thorough, or well thought out as Hollywoods, but it's very easy to remember: Never pre-agree to amounts, and always gift them a gift of an amount you choose after the deed. It's worked a charm for me, never been scammed.

[FredMoore]

I want to thank Hollywood Guy for his 5-step plan and generous advice. Wish I had followed it before meeting this SB. Experience is an expensive teacher. I am brand new to the sugar bowl. Tried SA in Japan and got completely fleeced by a Taiwanese girl on my second date. She is 31 years old, slim, attractive. She told me she was just looking for a lover. I am 41, so it was somewhat believable. We had dinner the first date and she seemed very sweet. The second date after dinner she told me again she was feeling lonely, and just wanted companionship. We visited a hotel. Long story short, she hit me up for money after we got into the room, asked me for payment before the deed, which I foolishly paid, and then she told me that was just for cuddling, and asked for more for sex. I stared at her in disbelief. This sweet girl I had spent a few hours talking to was a total con artist. I asked for my money back. She refused, and I considered my options. Ugly situation. I told her to get out, and barely managed to keep it together. I have never been taken like that before, and I have probably banged 200+ hookers in my life.

Hopefully my experience will help someone out there. Confirm expectations, and be careful what situation you get into.

Hookers are in it for the "long term" and want to preserve their client base. Sugars are usually not "professional" and have nothing to fear as far as reprisals. She knew you were in a foreign country and wouldn't do anything anyway. If they ask for money up front as an SB they are Pros or scammers. Tough lesson but we have all been there if we have done this game long enough.

[SushiLover69]

I want to thank Hollywood Guy for his 5-step plan and generous advice. Wish I had followed it before meeting this SB. Experience is an expensive teacher. I am brand new to the sugar bowl. Tried SA in Japan and got completely fleeced by a Taiwanese girl on my second date. She is 31 years old, slim, attractive. She told me she was just looking for a lover. I am 41, so it was somewhat believable. We had dinner the first date and she seemed very sweet. The second date after dinner she told me again she was feeling lonely, and just wanted companionship. We visited a hotel. Long story short, she hit me up for money after we got into the room, asked me for payment before the deed, which I foolishly paid, and then she told me that was just for cuddling, and asked for more for sex. I stared at her in disbelief. This sweet girl I had spent a few hours talking to was a total con artist. I asked for my money back. She refused, and I considered my options. Ugly situation. I told her to get out, and barely managed to keep it together. I have never been taken like that before, and I have probably banged 200+ hookers in my life.

Hopefully my experience will help someone out there. Confirm expectations, and be careful what situation you get into.

[Copper Fool]

If I was laying out that kind of money, the woman would be treating me like a full time job.

If I had that kind of disposable income -- I would NOT be using AM!! The guy should be reading this forum!