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  1. #18719
    Quote Originally Posted by HeadFirst  [View Original Post]
    I've driven by this place hundreds of times and never ever saw anyone going in or out of it. (For years). And seasoned mongers know what that means. But based on a few recents I pulled in. The first greeter didn't do it for me and neither did the second. We have another girl. You want see? Younger but still nothing happening.

    Went with #2 who was displaying some cleavage and pulled out $45. Into room #1. I wasn't even on the table yet and she brings in the change from 3 jacksons. I lay down and she starts a soft touch. I start to roam and within 5 minutes her crotch is strattling the back of my head. She covers the lamp and I flip. The towel falls away and after some teasing she grabs some oil. She's a pro and has many moves in her playbook which I tried to sample as many as I could before it was over. Hot towel clean up and I leave stress free for standard tip.

    Not sure what's on the menu here as she was wearing all the armor you typically see in a level 1 only shop. May stop in again or maybe not.
    Based on the "holy grail" report I visited this place as well for a 30 minute visit. I did not get a shower (which was disappointing) and was told it was broken. I guess I was told this because I had never been there before and I only had a 30 minute session planned. I don't know. Just guessing.

    I went with the first greeter, only because I did not know at the time there were others. While her face was only ok, she had a hot little spinner body with some cleavage showing. I'm an older guy, so the age was not an issue. I found her attractive enough and would have loved to see her naked.

    I was taken into room #1, got undressed and laid naked on the table. She comes in and started with a soft touch. Nothing special. I let my hands roam on her leg and thigh, and she too leaned in with crotch touching on the back of the head and her hands on my ass. She spent some time on the massage, with some teasing on the boys and ass. On the flip, I got some more rubs on the little one and with a mutual nod got a good L1 treatment.

    I too am curious about the menu, because my MT had all the armor on as well. I got her tight little dress up above her waist, but she was hearing tights and did not allow any hand underneath the tights. I got my hand on her bare back, but that was it. I did try to talk her into getting naked, but that was a no go.

    I plan on stopping by again and maybe will try an hour with a shower to see if I can get further.

  2. #18718

    Priceless

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsom  [View Original Post]
    Afterward she thanks me and reminds me to request her next time. That's because I tip and not because I treat them like a princesses.
    The sooner we learn and understand this statement of wisdom the better off all involved will be.

  3. #18717

    S Western

    Quote Originally Posted by Selforen11  [View Original Post]
    I visited the "Holy Grail" on Western last Friday night. Easy to find based upon the information provided above. Got there at about 8 pm. Plenty of parking on Western. Place is very clean. No TS offered, although it is available. MT had little or no ability to communicate in English. Did not get her name. 5/10 in terms of looks. Massage was truely outstanding. No shortage of time whatsoever. Standard (but above average) HE on the flip. More massage after HE. Saw other MTs up front on the way out. Both more attractive, and conversant in English. 60/40 for 1 HR. All in all a nice way to start the weekend. Will repeat.
    I've driven by this place hundreds of times and never ever saw anyone going in or out of it. (For years). And seasoned mongers know what that means. But based on a few recents I pulled in. The first greeter didn't do it for me and neither did the second. We have another girl. You want see? Younger but still nothing happening.

    Went with #2 who was displaying some cleavage and pulled out $45. Into room #1. I wasn't even on the table yet and she brings in the change from 3 jacksons. I lay down and she starts a soft touch. I start to roam and within 5 minutes her crotch is strattling the back of my head. She covers the lamp and I flip. The towel falls away and after some teasing she grabs some oil. She's a pro and has many moves in her playbook which I tried to sample as many as I could before it was over. Hot towel clean up and I leave stress free for standard tip.

    Not sure what's on the menu here as she was wearing all the armor you typically see in a level 1 only shop. May stop in again or maybe not.

  4. #18716

    Reports (+1),

    Quote Originally Posted by DMichaels69  [View Original Post]
    I don't think your post got the place shut down. If a place is popular then many times the neighbors complain, neighbors could be other businesses if its in a strip mall, especially if they are female neighbors. There is a place in the burbs that had a popular girl a few years back, mongers were lined up waiting with flowers and candy in hand at the back door of the place. There is an apartment complex right there so low and behold LEO showed up one day, then again a couple years later. There is another place in the burbs that had popular girls a few years ago. Its right next to a nail salon and LEO showed up and hauled off one of the girls one day. The place is still open and its not hard to guess in either case what prompted LEO to show up. I knew a Korean lady who said whatever spa she worked in she always took care of the women too and she said because if that the place never had a problem while she was there. I'm not a lawyer but I'd love to be a fly on the wall if and when LEO presented evidence that Mitsom from this board wrote about coco or cici at a ho house in or near China town. I can imagine the judge getting up and mule kicking them out of the courtroom. I've known a Korean lady for many years who worked at many spa's, does it all and never got in trouble because she is not stupid like a lot of these girls are who get in trouble. AMP's come and go, many reviews sites exist, reviews will continue to happen and the girls need to be smarter about not getting into trouble. Its a risky business and they should be aware of the consequences of their choice to work in it.
    If a MP is popular among mongers, then everyone (the residents, business owners, LEOs etc) sooner or later know what is going on there. Reports on this or other sites are not the source of that fame among the above mentioned people. Some places are open (never got shot down) regardless of its popularity, some places are shot down within a month or two. All that happens for various reasons, and, once again, our reports are not the reason. Therefore, those "one-winged" reports, with no real info are just pure waste of bandwidth.

  5. #18715

    Amg

    I'm pretty sure AMG is no more. Doorbell is gone, and no one answered when I knocked.

  6. #18714
    Quote Originally Posted by DMichaels69  [View Original Post]
    I don't think your post got the place shut down. If a place is popular then many times the neighbors complain, neighbors could be other businesses if its in a strip mall, especially if they are female neighbors. There is a place in the burbs that had a popular girl a few years back, mongers were lined up waiting with flowers and candy in hand at the back door of the place. There is an apartment complex right there so low and behold LEO showed up one day, then again a couple years later. There is another place in the burbs that had popular girls a few years ago. Its right next to a nail salon and LEO showed up and hauled off one of the girls one day. The place is still open and its not hard to guess in either case what prompted LEO to show up. I knew a Korean lady who said whatever spa she worked in she always took care of the women too and she said because if that the place never had a problem while she was there. I'm not a lawyer but I'd love to be a fly on the wall if and when LEO presented evidence that Mitsom from this board wrote about coco or cici at a ho house in or near China town. I can imagine the judge getting up and mule kicking them out of the courtroom. I've known a Korean lady for many years who worked at many spa's, does it all and never got in trouble because she is not stupid like a lot of these girls are who get in trouble. AMP's come and go, many reviews sites exist, reviews will continue to happen and the girls need to be smarter about not getting into trouble. Its a risky business and they should be aware of the consequences of their choice to work in it.
    I don't know about you all, but when I'm in an AMP, I still have a hard time relaxing, thinking someone will be busting in while I'm laying there.

    I went to most AMPs in the west burbs, and only had one MT offer BBBJ at a spa I go to regularly. I was surprised, and felt like a dope because I was used to standard finish with. 4 tip, which was all I had on me. The next time I went in, I brought enough cash to cover the previous ending and the current one I was in. Plus a little extra because I didn't want to look like a cheap *hole.

    Peace.

  7. #18713
    I don't think your post got the place shut down. If a place is popular then many times the neighbors complain, neighbors could be other businesses if its in a strip mall, especially if they are female neighbors. There is a place in the burbs that had a popular girl a few years back, mongers were lined up waiting with flowers and candy in hand at the back door of the place. There is an apartment complex right there so low and behold LEO showed up one day, then again a couple years later. There is another place in the burbs that had popular girls a few years ago. Its right next to a nail salon and LEO showed up and hauled off one of the girls one day. The place is still open and its not hard to guess in either case what prompted LEO to show up. I knew a Korean lady who said whatever spa she worked in she always took care of the women too and she said because if that the place never had a problem while she was there. I'm not a lawyer but I'd love to be a fly on the wall if and when LEO presented evidence that Mitsom from this board wrote about coco or cici at a ho house in or near China town. I can imagine the judge getting up and mule kicking them out of the courtroom. I've known a Korean lady for many years who worked at many spa's, does it all and never got in trouble because she is not stupid like a lot of these girls are who get in trouble. AMP's come and go, many reviews sites exist, reviews will continue to happen and the girls need to be smarter about not getting into trouble. Its a risky business and they should be aware of the consequences of their choice to work in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsom  [View Original Post]
    I posted on an encounter at a certain place near Chinatown AMP a number of years ago, some pretty specific details which maybe I should not have, and 2 weeks later the place was shut down. Coincidence? I don't know. But I can't fault anyone for being cautious, especially with a gem. I think posting on an AMP that is brick and mortar is different than an outcall or escort. It's been well documented that LEO has used this site in the past.

    I've got two places I have been frequenting and one has been getting a lot of exposure on here lately (near Chinatown). Last time there I ended with the mt laying on the table sideways banging her while my thumb was in her ass. Killer experience but I was relucted to post because I don't want the place shut down. I haven't even been going lately because of all the exposure here. My other spot is in Avondale and I've heard nothing about it here. I might PM about it but definitely wouldn't post. All the girls are super adamant about me not telling anyone or any of the other girls although I've had at least tits out and panties down on them all LOL.

    I know it's a bit hypocritical because I certainly appreciate others reviews. But for my hidden gems I just don't want to take the chance. Also, I might be considered one of those guys who overpays for services. I'm trying to get what I want, how I want it. I don't expect a first class experience if I'm only willing to pay for coach. And sometimes you have to build a relationship with these places. My north side spot I've gotten pretty naughty with some of the girls. Last week I had my mt repeat stuff like "I'm massage sl** for you" and "First massage then you fucka my mouf" during massage. She's very submissive. We finished with her giving HE while sucking my nipples and me with a finger in each of her holes from behind. Afterward she thanks me and reminds me to request her next time. That's because I tip and not because I treat them like a princesses.

  8. #18712
    Has anyone been to the MP near Lincoln and Belmont? All I see on their 'masaj' site is about the shower.

  9. #18711
    Oh hell naw. Theyve been bad for more than 2 o years. Theyve been bad as long as I started mongering like more than 20 plus years.

    Quote Originally Posted by AvgJoe  [View Original Post]
    Lane's has been terrible since the day it opened over 10 years ago. Countless others, including myself have written numerous reports detailing their lack of service and bad attitudes. Why didn't you ask here before you went there? Or, at least read thru the qpast reports? It would have saved you a lot of time and more importantly money.

    AJ.

  10. #18710
    Quote Originally Posted by WoodStreet  [View Original Post]
    I stopped in a few weeks back and had Jenny? Paid for 30 min and the massage was basically non existent. Once she knew what I was there for there was zero effort. I didn't care much as I was in a rush and expected a half ass attempt. Was offered the menu and decided to go with a full plate at a discount $1. The face is weathered but she had a surprisingly nice / firm ass. It was a bit rushed but I figured it would be with the discount over what most visitors pay.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyclp  [View Original Post]
    I've got a question that might be a little bit beside the point: how's the actual massage at Relax on Cermak? From the sound of it everything else is good, but seeing as my back is a bit achy I'd like to find a place that does a good massage in addition to everything else.
    Give Yu Yu a try. Just let her know you want a hard massage. She also does a pretty good back walk, and has other very good skills also.

  11. #18709

    A chance worth taking?

    Quote Originally Posted by DMichaels69  [View Original Post]
    They won't get in trouble from this board. Look at the roselle section, all the reports on AD spa. They have been open for years and had never had an issue. bbbj with cim for 100 seems very reasonable price. I'm also not interested in visiting a spa where they complain about customer tipping or each other types of drama. My mature response to that if I encounter it is to please continue the massage as I don't want to hear that type of banter.
    I posted on an encounter at a certain place near Chinatown AMP a number of years ago, some pretty specific details which maybe I should not have, and 2 weeks later the place was shut down. Coincidence? I don't know. But I can't fault anyone for being cautious, especially with a gem. I think posting on an AMP that is brick and mortar is different than an outcall or escort. It's been well documented that LEO has used this site in the past.

    I've got two places I have been frequenting and one has been getting a lot of exposure on here lately (near Chinatown). Last time there I ended with the mt laying on the table sideways banging her while my thumb was in her ass. Killer experience but I was relucted to post because I don't want the place shut down. I haven't even been going lately because of all the exposure here. My other spot is in Avondale and I've heard nothing about it here. I might PM about it but definitely wouldn't post. All the girls are super adamant about me not telling anyone or any of the other girls although I've had at least tits out and panties down on them all LOL.

    I know it's a bit hypocritical because I certainly appreciate others reviews. But for my hidden gems I just don't want to take the chance. Also, I might be considered one of those guys who overpays for services. I'm trying to get what I want, how I want it. I don't expect a first class experience if I'm only willing to pay for coach. And sometimes you have to build a relationship with these places. My north side spot I've gotten pretty naughty with some of the girls. Last week I had my mt repeat stuff like "I'm massage sl** for you" and "First massage then you fucka my mouf" during massage. She's very submissive. We finished with her giving HE while sucking my nipples and me with a finger in each of her holes from behind. Afterward she thanks me and reminds me to request her next time. That's because I tip and not because I treat them like a princesses.

  12. #18708

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Walker333  [View Original Post]
    Those are the words of wisdom. But, sometime ago I received PMs from a guy (I think he was a man), who described interesting things, providing all info including names, phones etc. Of the providers (although I did not ask him anything), and he suggested, invited to bid on such services directly with the provider, using the given phone numbers Basically he or she was either pimping or it was an actual provider who used this approach to get more business. I'm sure I was not the only one who received those unsolicited PM offers. I found some similarities between CD's anonymous reports and those old PMs. Generally speaking CD didn't describe any unique, unusual, impossible services. All described is readily and widely available for the right price at the right places. Moreover, I'm sure that there are tons of mts who would do anything and everything for the right price, but we are not asking more just L1 mistakenly assuming that FS or BJ are not on a menu. Therefore, CD just hints or directs mongers to ask for extras and might be giving providers' info, as long as those who asked him, promised to pay what CD considers as a fair price.
    Wow. This is just a reminder of why I don't post on rubmap. Ok first thing first. CD is not a pimp and I have gotten info from him freely with no strings attached. Second thing the girls that he described are usually spot. But the service are YMMV. Some time I get the same services as him other times something else. Some times I get better service than him. So in the end CD is legit. But it is his choice to give out whatever info he decides to whoever he wants. Like for me I posted on aamp subforum for someone to vouch for me to get Pam's girl. But nobody ever vouches for me. But guess what then tough love for me. And I would just continue on trying. Like before I posted 4 new mp but no reviews had come forward yet. I would do it but lately I strapped for cash. So I just usually go to my regulars. So in the end everyone is taker but a few of us are givers. And if the takers don't get what they want they complain. But it is the choice of the givers to give what they want and to who they want. If you takers don't get what you wanted then just move on. And remember guys this a community to help each other and not fight with each other. Especially considering Chicago has the shittiest market for us and it still going downhill.

  13. #18707

    Cd (+1)

    Quote Originally Posted by VRooomBada  [View Original Post]
    the point of posting is to openly share. If I wanted to keep something to myself or a select few, then why post at all?
    Those are the words of wisdom. But, sometime ago I received PMs from a guy (I think he was a man), who described interesting things, providing all info including names, phones etc. Of the providers (although I did not ask him anything), and he suggested, invited to bid on such services directly with the provider, using the given phone numbers Basically he or she was either pimping or it was an actual provider who used this approach to get more business. I'm sure I was not the only one who received those unsolicited PM offers. I found some similarities between CD's anonymous reports and those old PMs. Generally speaking CD didn't describe any unique, unusual, impossible services. All described is readily and widely available for the right price at the right places. Moreover, I'm sure that there are tons of mts who would do anything and everything for the right price, but we are not asking more just L1 mistakenly assuming that FS or BJ are not on a menu. Therefore, CD just hints or directs mongers to ask for extras and might be giving providers' info, as long as those who asked him, promised to pay what CD considers as a fair price.

  14. #18706

    Cd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pengansai  [View Original Post]
    MMA has shared multiple true unicorns with me. I think I have shared pretty well too. That is a better purpose for this forum than just telling war stories, IMHO.
    I didn't expect a response from CD since I never saw one previously when people tried calling him out, so that's a step forward. I don't really have an opinion on whether some mongers are cheap or not (I certainly don't expect something for next to nothing), but how does that affect anyone else's experience? Someone else mentioned it may be a mistress type situation, in which case, why even post? Personally, the point of posting is to openly share. If I wanted to keep something to myself or a select few, then why post at all?

  15. #18705

    Holy Grail

    Quote Originally Posted by CafeRaceritali  [View Original Post]
    So, after reading reports here on the forum I decided to visit a spot on Western, just off 290. After parking, I walk right up, ring the door bell and am greeted b by an early 30's-ish Chinese woman named J* . She's wearing a short white dress, long black hair done up in braids. It's early, I'm her first customer. "You want 30 minutes or full hour?" she asks, which I translate as "you want me to make you cum right away so you can get back to work?" I tell her I only need 30 minutes. As we're walking back, I ask to use the bathroom. She laughs, "of course you can use bathroom," and shows me where to go. On my way back, I check the place out, look for a table shower. I don't see one.

    Not wanting to give myself away as a first-time to her parlor, I say, "I thought the table shower would be ready by now. " It's a vague statement.

    "Oh, no no, not ready yet," she says. "We only have stand-up shower, you do yourself. ".

    I make a face. "Do myself?

    "Yes, you want to do yourself?" she asks.

    "I'd much rather you help me," I say. She laughs, says that would be an extra $10. "Take whatever you need, baby," I say. She laughs.

    "Okay, baby," she says.

    After I piss, she leads me to my room. It's huge, has a rocking chair, a door with a lock. She points to a robe, tells me to put it on. She points to a towel, tells me to wrap it around my waist. I strip. I put only put on the robe. She returns. "You don't want the towel?" she asks.

    "No, I don't need it," I say. She leads me through the back, to a little shower room reminiscent of the kinds of shower / bathrooms you find in Thailand. It's a little dirty. She guides me in, takes off my robe. Then she starts taking off her tights.

    "You don't mind /" she asks. I told her no. "You probably want me to take it all off?" she asks. Having been totally cool up until that point, and having maintained a respectable frame, I freeze and totally blow my shot at getting her completely naked.

    "Maybe next time," I say.

    She then proceeds to give me a standing shower, soapy bubbles and all. She waists no time grabbing at, pulling on my d* She calls me Superman and rubs my arms. "I like that," I say. "How about we do this two times? Once now, and once after my massage?" I ask. She agrees and starts puling on my dick. She get behind me. Her fingers flirt with my ass, she reaches around and starts to pull on my dick. The words 'rust trombone' came to mind, though she never used her tongue. As I came, she continued to moan and pull away from me so as to avoid becoming a target. It was magical.

    After the shower we returned to my little room where she gave me a great massage, climbed up on top of me, tried to mile me / play with my ass from behind so as to get me hard again (I was spent). She then informed me that the place was under new management, three new girls. After she and I realized I would not be getting hard again, my time was up. I tipped her. Was a great experience all around.

    I'm not saying more about the location, as the last place I reported on got the proverbial hug of death.

    Stay safe out there boys.
    I visited the "Holy Grail" on Western last Friday night. Easy to find based upon the information provided above. Got there at about 8 pm. Plenty of parking on Western. Place is very clean. No TS offered, although it is available. MT had little or no ability to communicate in English. Did not get her name. 5/10 in terms of looks. Massage was truely outstanding. No shortage of time whatsoever. Standard (but above average) HE on the flip. More massage after HE. Saw other MTs up front on the way out. Both more attractive, and conversant in English. 60/40 for 1 HR. All in all a nice way to start the weekend. Will repeat.

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