"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FruitNinja]

Don't know about this one. In my experience, asians have been total GPS and with tons of excuses for what and what not can be achieved in first few meets. I tried handful of them and none worked out to finishline. On contrary I had successes with others.

May be YMMV. Good Luck. Keep us posted.

I had an Asian that wanted 1 K per meet. I was going to point out that you can go to a multitude of AMPs and get laid for 160. But I let it go. I ended up on a pred list. It was either some pyshing on the site or this one girl I was talking to when I first got on the site. I got it removed but it was a pain in the ass. GV is your friend. Never give your real first name. Keep your pictures private or only exchange thru text after you've established a little rapport.

[Apothecary]

Don't know about this one. In my experience, asians have been total GPS and with tons of excuses for what and what not can be achieved in first few meets. I tried handful of them and none worked out to finishline. On contrary I had successes with others.

May be YMMV. Good Luck. Keep us posted.

I have been communicating with this one by text lately. I am looking for any intel that someone might have on this Asian spinner. I also can share info on others.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...c-b481b8c28360

[CandyMan555]

Scammed out of 400 I was visiting Ft Lauderdale for a conference and messaged back an forth for about a week and texted. Set up a date she comes to my room I had a small gift for her with the money inside she opened it up excused herself to go to bathroom came out and said she wanted to make a private call goes outside in to the hallway and I never saw her again, Use your discretion when meeting for the first time.

HER NAME IS SANDYFEETS in Ft Lauderdale she blocked me so I cannot give you a link.

Live and learn CM.

[Rvaexec60]

I have been communicating with this one by text lately. I am looking for any intel that someone might have on this Asian spinner. I also can share info on others.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...c-b481b8c28360

[JZLizard]

Glad to see the time I spent collecting that info together was worth it.

Not only was it worth it, it is probably the most valuable contribution to this thread (perhaps this website) by a single individual -- all of us owe you thanks.

I can only imagine the man hours and bandwidth saved by reducing redundant conversations and helping newbies get started. Now all we need, to solve the second most common bandwidth and time waster is a "Mongers Transition Guide to the Bowl" to help educate guys who are accustomed to the escort world, and help enable them to wrap their heads around the difference between escorts and true SBs (or if they aren't interested in transitioning, at least help them understand why its unwise to pontificate about a hobby they do not understand). It would have to come from a fresh pen though, because I've written enough on the subject and have come to the conclusion it is challenging job that requires more patience or free time than I have; it involves much more than filling in the blanks for newcomers seeking knowledge. In involves trying to impart knowledge to folks who don't even realize they need it and have probably decided they don't need to learn anything new. Lots of guys out there enter the thread asserting that any woman who seeks financial security is a pro, without realizing they are basically talking about their own moms, daughters and sisters (because ALL women seek same). The bowl, and what takes place in it has such a wide range of variance and possibilities that is more complex than the simple escort / john transaction, and thus apparently cognitively out of reach for some.

[FruitNinja]

Recently I met a nice 20-something from one of the SB sites, and we enjoyed a m&g dinner together. Since she lives at some distance I was planning to see her for dinner again soon and start making plans to move on from there. For some reason today I decided to run her phone no thru one of the online reverse phone services. My experience with them has been about 50-50 as far as useful information. However this one came up red flags all over. Assault charges, dwi, court dates, her real name, address, etc. I think this shows the benefit of checking up on these gals because 90% of them are hiding something and they lie like crazy. I highly recommend doing the checks. In VA the court records are an open book once you know a name and a locality. I can't say that for every state but it's worth looking into.

Now my dilemma is that I think this girl could be a fun time, and her legal offenses are not terrible in my opinion, and I'm not there to judge. The court will do that. Unfortunately this type of girl ends up with huge debt from fines, loss of driving license, etc and that makes meeting very tough. (None are drug offenses, which is automatic disqualification in my book) She might even pull jail time. But I don't feel like supporting a chick's legal costs with my "sugar". All I can say is that it's a minefield out there and you need to get ALL the info on a girl then make your decision as far as making an arrangement with her.

For me all these arrangements are about how much pain I'm willing to endure. A 19 year old is exactly what 19 year old's are.

[DirtyDeeds38]

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[KrustyDawg7]

Recently I met a nice 20-something from one of the SB sites, and we enjoyed a m&g dinner together. Since she lives at some distance I was planning to see her for dinner again soon and start making plans to move on from there. For some reason today I decided to run her phone no thru one of the online reverse phone services. My experience with them has been about 50-50 as far as useful information. However this one came up red flags all over. Assault charges, dwi, court dates, her real name, address, etc. I think this shows the benefit of checking up on these gals because 90% of them are hiding something and they lie like crazy. I highly recommend doing the checks. In VA the court records are an open book once you know a name and a locality. I can't say that for every state but it's worth looking into.

Now my dilemma is that I think this girl could be a fun time, and her legal offenses are not terrible in my opinion, and I'm not there to judge. The court will do that. Unfortunately this type of girl ends up with huge debt from fines, loss of driving license, etc and that makes meeting very tough. (None are drug offenses, which is automatic disqualification in my book) She might even pull jail time. But I don't feel like supporting a chick's legal costs with my "sugar". All I can say is that it's a minefield out there and you need to get ALL the info on a girl then make your decision as far as making an arrangement with her.

[Madaboutmax]

Many thanks for the effort you put in. It not only is super useful for newbies, but saves all of is for repeating the same conversations over and over again.

Glad to see the time I spent collecting that info together was worth it.

[Zcochran00]

There's an FAQ in this thread as well as tips and such. If you don't know what FC is, I'd honestly suggest you read those b / c there's a lot you need to learn to maximize your experience, beyond just that term. This is a great resource, use it and leverage our experience. Happy hunting.

Glad to see the time I spent collecting that info together was worth it.

[Snake27]

Earlier this week, I was on SA at 10 pm when a 19 yo college girl messaged. It was a cold rainy night during her spring break. She seemed to want to move quickly, we went to text messages, she wanted a real picture and I sent it. She very aggressively persuaded me to come to her dorm room where she was alone, her roomates being out of town. She was a tall slender pretty black girl. Amazing! Wants 200 per meet and well worth it. The sex was great, I worshipped her slender young body and made her cum twice. She said she wanted to be my SB and I have tentatively agreed. We'll see if she invites me again. Who knows. Next time it would need to be at a hotel since her roomates are coming back. She just wants sex in private, no dates in public or shopping because her family and friends live nearby. I think it was a little dumb and reckless to invite me to her dorm room, but she said she liked me by my profile on SA, that she was similar to me and had the same goals for an SB / SD relationship. So maybe it pays to write a careful and accurate profile? If the story continues I may update in a few months.

[EvilTmp]

The kind of girls I'm looking for are more interested in the quality of their experience and other factors like picking the guys, being comfortable, having fun, than maximizing their earnings. If they wanted to make the most possible money they would become an escort and blindly see 5 guys a day. So if you're nice and fun, you don't need to compete by offering those kinds of numbers, at least with those types, which is what I'm seeking on there.

There is nothing, and I mean nothing as satisfying as a young hot thing telling you "Daddy, you can do absolutely anything to want to me anytime you want. I'm all yours". And she means it too.

[TomDickNHarry]

The kind of girls I'm looking for are more interested in the quality of their experience and other factors like picking the guys, being comfortable, having fun, than maximizing their earnings. If they wanted to make the most possible money they would become an escort and blindly see 5 guys a day. So if you're nice and fun, you don't need to compete by offering those kinds of numbers, at least with those types, which is what I'm seeking on there.

Agreed.

My rule of thumb is whatever she needs above 100-200 is the amount she needs to hold her nose and spend time with you. The bigger the number, the less she actually likes you. (Corollary: the less she likes you the less fun the naughty times will be.).

This might come as a surprise to some but you can find an actual model (and no not a girl who calls herself "a model" but a bona-fide working 22 year old 5'11' size 2 model) that's happy to hang for 200. Or a 20 year old 95 lbs blue eyed 10/10 stunner for the same amount. If she actually likes you and have a connection it's all possible. Try telling that to the plump plain girls that ask for 400 and 500 per meet!

[EvilTmp]

Agreed.

My rule of thumb is whatever she needs above 100-200 is the amount she needs to hold her nose and spend time with you. The bigger the number, the less she actually likes you. (Corollary: the less she likes you the less fun the naughty times will be.).

This might come as a surprise to some but you can find an actual model (and no not a girl who calls herself "a model" but a bona-fide working 22 year old 5'11' size 2 model) that's happy to hang for 200. Or a 20 year old 95 lbs blue eyed 10/10 stunner for the same amount. If she actually likes you and have a connection it's all possible. Try telling that to the plump plain girls that ask for 400 and 500 per meet!

When searching for an SB I AM looking for long term with chemistry and a connection. When the topic of assistance comes up I always couch it that the chemistry is important to me and if I give her a high allowance I'll never know if she's seeing me for me or just the money. I also say that the assistance would increase over time once trust is established and the relationship develops. Finally, I tell her that a beautiful woman like you can certainly find someone to give them 400 or 500 per meet, but most of these will be one and done or have tons of strings attached. If you're willing to see me for my modest assistance, then I know our time together and experiences are more important than the allowance and things.

Does this always work? Of course not. But, for me it's a screening method to get rid of pros, semi-pros and GPS girls.

Good hunting!

Travelin.

[Postin]

When searching for an SB I AM looking for long term with chemistry and a connection. When the topic of assistance comes up I always couch it that the chemistry is important to me and if I give her a high allowance I'll never know if she's seeing me for me or just the money. I also say that the assistance would increase over time once trust is established and the relationship develops. Finally, I tell her that a beautiful woman like you can certainly find someone to give them 400 or 500 per meet, but most of these will be one and done or have tons of strings attached. If you're willing to see me for my modest assistance, then I know our time together and experiences are more important than the allowance and things.

Does this always work? Of course not. But, for me it's a screening method to get rid of pros, semi-pros and GPS girls.

Good hunting!

Travelin.

If she's there, she's there for the money and not you. End of story.