"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Cephlapod Love** · 03-03-18 22:09

Originally Posted by Assaholic [View Original Post]

Why use Tor? All your IP reveals is who your broadband provider is, which is useless info (or am I missing something? Unless someone subpeonas your provider and correlates the date+time+IP to the subscriber, which is not going to happen unless the Feds are after you.

While I agree, if the Feds are after you, they have much more in the way of resources and technology and an individual stands no chance. So IF the Feds want to find you, they can & will.

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No

It's not "the feds" it's the NSA and nothing, absolutely nothing any of you guys will ever do will get the lens of the NSA turned in your direction. If it ever is just die because there is nothing you can do. They already know everything about you, they just don't care because none of us are important.

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**TomDickNHarry** · 03-03-18 18:18

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No, you really don't understand how difficult it is to be identified by an IP address so please stop talking about it.

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**FarFarAway** · 03-03-18 16:07

Originally Posted by Assaholic [View Original Post]

Why use Tor? All your IP reveals is who your broadband provider is, which is useless info (or am I missing something? Unless someone subpeonas your provider and correlates the date+time+IP to the subscriber, which is not going to happen unless the Feds are after you.

MAC address is used for local traffic. It doesn't traverse the internet.

If you're still determined to hide your IP, Google "Epic Privacy Browser", but SA or any site using javascript probably won't work properly.

SA may know your location and language based on your user profile.

Speaking of Feds, did everyone read about the new FOSTA / SESTA legislation? If I'm reading this correctly, not only will websites like this, SA and BP become illegal, but even visiting a site like BP or SA, even if one exists, e. G overseas, will become a federal crime. WTF? If that's the case, we've got a much bigger cluster fuck heading straight our way.

Focus, focus. I don't think this is so. I have been specifically banned from another site, it won't let me log in at all (when I am at home), and this must be based on the IP address. I have used at the suggestion of a brother the page IPChicken, and I can see that it shows the same today as a month ago. I am on a wifi network at home using a cable modem. If they aren't identifying me based on the IP address, the only other way they could do so would be the MAC address, yes? We need a geek / expert on this topic.

Regarding my posting of the URL for SA and my Tor dialog, I don't have an account on SA currently, so it *can't* know English and US based on my account. I was simply going to get on the site to create one.

In a google search bar type in what is my ip. Write it down. Unplug you modem and router go to bed, wake up, plug in modem, wait until you have an internet connection, plug in router, go to google type what is my ip. Should be different.

Most sites don't IP ban anymore due to IP6 to IP4 natting on mobile devices.

I'm watching but not unduly concerned with FOSTA/SESTA at this point. As written it would make FB and Google liable for the actions of their users, and how the fuck they ever expect to police overseas sites like ours is fucking beyond me. We have 2-300,000 visitors a day and BP has got to have 100X that. Are they going to incarcerate half the male population in the US?

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**Assaholic** · 03-03-18 15:26

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I just tried Tor again for logging on to SA, and it still isn't working. However, that brings up another point. Here is a screenshot of the header on the login page. I have also clicked open the Tor path. You can see that even though my signal is bouncing through 3 foreign countries before it gets to the SA server, it recognizes to use English and that I am in the US. Does that give anyone pause? Perhaps SA has been able to see us through Tor all along, and we are getting in a tiff for nothing about this. Just using a regular browser might be enough.

Are there any other ways to spoof your IP address? Is anyone concerned about their MAC address, and if so are they spoofing that as well?

Why use Tor? All your IP reveals is who your broadband provider is, which is useless info (or am I missing something? Unless someone subpeonas your provider and correlates the date+time+IP to the subscriber, which is not going to happen unless the Feds are after you.

MAC address is used for local traffic. It doesn't traverse the internet.

If you're still determined to hide your IP, Google "Epic Privacy Browser", but SA or any site using javascript probably won't work properly.

SA may know your location and language based on your user profile.

Speaking of Feds, did everyone read about the new FOSTA / SESTA legislation? If I'm reading this correctly, not only will websites like this, SA and BP become illegal, but even visiting a site like BP or SA, even if one exists, e. G overseas, will become a federal crime. WTF? If that's the case, we've got a much bigger cluster fuck heading straight our way.

**TomDickNHarry** · 03-03-18 13:10

[Deleted by Admin]The IP address is something the SO could easily check. [Deleted by Admin]

No it's not, so I deleted everything else.

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**EvilTmp** · 03-03-18 12:59

Originally Posted by FruitNinja [View Original Post]

I've run across a few ads with two girls that come as a package. Just wondering if anyone has had any dialogue. Seems to me a lot could go wrong. I've done this a few times through other sites but never SA.

Any thoughts?

My thoughts on this is that this is for the girls that want to keep a distance between you and their fun parts. It sounds awfully alluring but making all the pieces work is much more complicated. Both girls would have to be into you, and you'd have to be into both girls as well. The odds are slim and to me it seems like a way to collect M&G fees, free dinners, and keep everything nice and platonic. No thanks.

Think how much more complicated it is to make your move on two girls at once.

Anyone with a great experience is welcome to post it here.

**DavidS78** · 03-03-18 12:45

Originally Posted by FruitNinja [View Original Post]

I've run across a few ads with two girls that come as a package. Just wondering if anyone has had any dialogue. Seems to me a lot could go wrong. I've done this a few times through other sites but never SA.

Any thoughts?

In that instance the girls were open to meet together or separately. They said they didn't have much expendable income & since they have to pay for the site as well they were trying to save a little money by having a "joint account".

**FruitNinja** · 03-03-18 12:01

I've run across a few ads with two girls that come as a package. Just wondering if anyone has had any dialogue. Seems to me a lot could go wrong. I've done this a few times through other sites but never SA.

Any thoughts?

**JustLonely** · 03-02-18 15:07

Originally Posted by CarpeDiem305 [View Original Post]

Anyone have some suggestions on messaging these girls for the first time? I haven't had much success. I'm in Denver.

I start every message with "I messaged you because. " It gives them a reason to actually read it. Make the reason something you saw in their profile. Don't say you messaged them because they look hot. If you can't think of anything good to get their attention, then find another one that will bring on some inspiration with your big head, not just the little one. Because if she does reply to your first message, you have to keep on impressing her. Ones that do reply to your message and can't do any better than "hey, how are you?" are usually time wasters in my opinion.

**FarFarAway** · 03-02-18 14:52

[Deleted by Admin]Does that give anyone pause? [Deleted by Admin]

No

See what you started?

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**Madaboutmax** · 03-02-18 14:51

Check out the index to this thread also on the Richmond board. It contains links to what you are looking for including message g strategies.

Good luck!

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...-Index-and-FAQ

Originally Posted by CarpeDiem305 [View Original Post]

Anyone have some suggestions on messaging these girls for the first time? I haven't had much success. I'm in Denver.

**FarFarAway** · 03-02-18 14:36

To just be kind of Captain Obvious, the people harvesting photos to post on extortion sites, they aren't hookers, escorts, masseuses, or sugarbabies. They're scammers, posing as one of the above in order to get two key things. Your number and pic, maybe your email. They could have come from Craigslist, backpage, or seekingarrangement. I was just alerting some people to activity on the seekingarrangement in certain areas of the country. Our challenge is to identify those who are doing it before we give up our key info, and warn others if we can figure out which ads / profiles are doing it. We also want to have excellent operational security so we don't make ourselves vulnerable to this when we could have taken some simple precautions. We might get some assistance from the sites themselves, but I wouldn't depend on that.

**FarFarAway** · 03-02-18 11:36

A couple of bowl brothers are having difficulty logging in to SA using the Tor browser. It's the easiest way I know to keep your IP address secret while browsing, from anyone. VPNs are more trouble. I have also heard that regular browsers are working OK. This would not be a good trend for the many of us who are trying to stay under the radar, and it would suggest that the Hong Kong fellow who owns SA isn't our friend. Perhaps it's just a software glitch from a website update, though, so SA should be apprised of the problems they are causing us. I don't have a current membership / profile.