Safe Sex Information and Advice

[VaInSight]

Definitely not the same at all buddy, go read up on rise in oral cancer from DATY, their was a publication that came out recently that shocked me on that note, haven't seen one yet from getting blown.

You said "is that safe", you didn't is that safe because of oral cancer. When people talk about safe practices they include all the STDs / STIs you can get, not just about cancer.

[TwoDirection]

I wouldn't go for it somebody yesterday put up a ad on BP Richmond section it said that she has HIV and she will rob you it's better to be safe then sorry but hey you make your own choice be wise stay safe.

Posts like that are almost always just bullshit posted by a disgruntled former customer. They're so mad that they go overboard with giving reasons you shouldn't see the girl without realizing what they've said doesn't make sense.

Think about it. How did he find out she had HIV and get robbed by her too? While she was robbing him, she said "by the way, I have HIV"? Seems unlikely. If not, then did he meet her successfully once, she told him she had HIV, and then he came back a second time to see her and that time she robbed him? Why would he have come back the second time? Makes no sense.

I've never met her, but that fake warning wouldn't dissuade me at all if I was planning to.

To the OP, though: my guess would be the girl in your town who has a different number has just stolen this girl's pics, though. This girl posts in Richmond every day lately.

[VaInSight]

Why'all are brave souls, how do you DATY on these girls, is that safe? All the guys on here been in that dude.

So you don't like BJs either? LOL Someone could easily say "How do you let these girls blow you, is that safe? All the guys on here have been in that mouth dude". Wouldn't that be the same as what you imply?

[Member #5895]

Hey fellas,

This one popped up in Cville and since she posted in your town under a different number I thought I would ask if anyone here has seen her.

Both links below.

http://charlottesville.backpage.com/...-7533/34831637

http://richmond.backpage.com/WomenSe...-8074/35269007

I wouldn't go for it somebody yesterday put up a ad on BP Richmond section it said that she has HIV and she will rob you it's better to be safe then sorry but hey you make your own choice be wise stay safe.

[Postin]

Why'all are brave souls, how do you DATY on these girls, is that safe? All the guys on here been in that dude.

She said I was the only one. Are you implying she wasn't truthful? LMAO! Go big o go home!

Seriously, she hasn't done anything that soap and water won't take care of and as I said she came right out of the tub. Eating pussy is one of my favorite things to do. Go rain on someone else's parade.

[KontLover]

Had never been to Petersburg before, but had a growing desire to meet Ashley Emory, the chick who always ends her ad with "in Petersburg". I was looking through her Facebook page and decided she had pretty much everything I'm attracted to:

Nice rack - ✓.

Blonde hair - ✓.

LFK - ✓.

Blue eyes - ✓.

So off I went down 95. Made my appointment via text about an hour and a half ahead of time, which would generally be about how long it would take me too get there on a normal day but luck placed me South of Richmond just off 95 so I figured fate had taken a hand. Who was I to argue?

She was in a nice little wayside motorlodge in a darkish room. She was just about to step into a bath and invited me in so I could verify she was alone. She was.

After the bath, she entered smelling fresh and ready to get down to business. She was undressed in an instant and we feel into bed, kissing and roaming each other's bodies, allowing our lower regions to touch and rub and do their job. I was ready to go almost instantly!

She fell into a sweet little BBBJ and soon accepted my invitation to 69, a favorite of mine. The quicker her pace the quicker mine was and I felt her quivering way before I wanted to pop, which I was dangerously close to doing. I didn't come there to pop from a BJ, however so I moved into position and we started into covered mish. She really took a pounding, and I had to stop and catch my breath. Starting back was fun as I got a second BBBJ with some great hand action. Soon we resume covered Mish and this time I pounded out an awesome finish for both of us, or maybe just me (who cares, right?

We laid in bed talking for a bit and she told me she'd been saving up money to move into her own place but had recently been robbed and was starting all over. Apparently her father and brother know her lifestyle, but are cool with it.

Damage was $ hhr, so at that rate, I'll be back. I didn't ask if Greek was available, but I suspect it was. I'm ok without it, but to each their own.

I'd say she looks better in her pics, but she's still very pretty.

One negative is she smokes and you will smell like smoke after visiting. I expect she'd air the room out of you have her notice.

Why'all are brave souls, how do you DATY on these girls, is that safe? All the guys on here been in that dude.

[Aviator1958]

Raimakahn.

Not a doctor but I think it takes a bit longer than 1 week for hiv to show up in your blood.

[RaimaKhan]

Hey Last week I hired an escort from an EscortGirlGurgaon Agency and she gave me AIDS

I hired her from escortgirlgurgaon.com so stay the fuck away from those guys

Fucking spammers

A2

[Cephlapod Love]

I know nobody wants to talk about STD's, but the risk's is there.

Huh? This entire thread is about STDs and the risks associated with such. Just on this page are a number of links to CDC risk tool as well as info on transmission risks, etc.

Post#813.

https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/estimator.html

The riskiest activities are anal and vaginal sex with or without a cover.

What is "risk" is actually how one perceives risk and that is highly individual and often emotional rather than rational. Many "beliefs" that most latch on to. Some things to consider are in post # 811.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...291&viewfull=1#post3645291.

I have been doing this for years and learned that for SW it is best to stick with BJ's. Now AMP's are a much cleaner place, the women are cleaner and the clientele are upper class. Meaning the people who visit usually do not have an STD. I would do BBFS there, if they offer it.

Why do you think that is?

In my view, the issue with Street Walkers (SW) is that most, if not all, have some form of addiction and thus why they are on the streets. Now do not fall into the assumption that needles equals transmission or risk. It can, but needle exchange programs in many areas have reduced that form of risk. It appears as though the concern with addicts is that, when they are drug sick or Jonesing, they will do anything to get their meds and that means BBFS with anyone with cash or drugs. Also, what do the statistics in your area (State's Annual HIV Surveillance Report) say about who is infected? AA women? White Women? Asian Women? Men? In general, the rate of white women living with HIV is less than 2-tenths of a percent, <0. 2%. The rate for Asian women is even less. But you should confirm such with your location's information.

I think it is an assumption to say that AMP customers are upper class and do not have STDs. Last time I visited an AMP they did not ask for my social economic background, nor STD status before admitting me. Me thinks they were more interested in who I was (who I wasn't) and if I had the ability to pay. There ARE AMPs where BBFS is an option and those are usually famously reviewed on these threads. Also it may be a matter that is between the girl and her client. IF she likes him and he is nice & a regular she may allow BBFS. That usually takes time, effort and extra tip. But to assume AMP girls do not do BBFS.

See attached chart for further detail.

Not sure how that table explains why SWers are more risky than AMP girls?

I know for me that fear comes from a lack of knowledge. Once I understood the facts of risk, transmission and prevalence of STDs, I was better able to manage my risk on a rational rather than emotional basis. While fear is a good thing and a way to avoid stepping into the lion cage, it didn't need to cloud my judgement.

[Rich5]

I know nobody wants to talk about STD's, but the risk's is there. The riskiest activities are anal and vaginal sex with or without a cover. I have been doing this for years and learned that for SW it is best to stick with BJ's. Now AMP's are a much cleaner place, the women are cleaner and the cliental are upper class. Meaning the people who visit usually do not have an STD. I would do BBFS there, if they offer it. See attached chart for further detail.

http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp

[Cephlapod Love]

(and, not to get too political, not everyone has health insurance, and the people who often are at the most risk for this stuff are also the kinds of people who wouldn't have insurance).

Beyond the scope of this forum, but for personal enlightenment, would sure like to see statistics and proof of who is it in the USA that does not have health insurance? (that seems like a generalization) In my travels just about every SWer I have encountered has free health insurance through Medicaid.

But that said, (excluding Addicts) I believe most people are relatively honest and if asked will tell you if they have an HIV infection or if they have been tested and when and what are the results. Of course with antigen testing one can find the results of an infection much sooner (14-21 days) than in the "old days" when antibody testing ( 3 months) was all that existed.

But I absolutely believe if you know the facts and take the proper precautions, you can dramatically reduce the risk of even contracting HIV, rubber or not, but again, I'm simply advocating that people do the research and know what to look out for.

Fair enough and good point. Learn the facts of the recent science & developments. Probably not well known in the heterosexual community, but there is a way to play bareback and avoid HIV. There is medication known as "PrEP" - which stands for Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis. Basically it is the same retro-viral drugs used to treat a HIV infection. (expensive as noted by OP) One takes the drugs and then if the HIV virus is introduced into the body the drugs zap it before it can multiply or take hold. Of course the "catch" is as mentioned, PrEP must be taken every day. PrEP is approved by the FDA and has been shown to be safe and effective at preventing HIV infection.

I know I'm being pedantic in this post, but I agree with you on the whole. Sex education is terrible in the US, and a large chunk of what people nowadays "understand" is a direct result of fear-based propaganda from the 80's and 90's.

Agreed!

[VMakel]

2) How is HIV "extremely dangerous?" That is the brain-washing from the 1990's that the government wants everyone to believe so that they can direct and control behavior. The conservatives want to tell you to be only in a monogamous relationship. However, health professions at testing facilities have told me and other health professionals have confirmed that HIV is no longer a death sentence, but now a manageable chronic condition. In fact if one is on anti-retroviral medication viral loads in the body are driven down to the non-detect level. Oh and since everyone has health insurance under ObamaCare, everyone should have access to the medication.

As far as 2: I didn't want to get too far into it, because it's too complicated to get into in just a single bullet point, but I said it was dangerous in that if it is left untreated for long enough you WILL get AIDS, and it WILL be the reason you die. It can also be asymptomatic (or have symptoms of just the flu) for long enough that people may not think to get tested. But, to your credit, on proper medication HIV really isn't a big deal. However that also required taking medication every day (which for some reason people can struggle to do) and the medication IS expensive (and, not to get too political, not everyone has health insurance, and the people who often are at the most risk for this stuff are also the kinds of people who wouldn't have insurance).

But I absolutely believe if you know the facts and take the proper precautions, you can dramatically reduce the risk of even contracting HIV, rubber or not, but again, I'm simply advocating that people do the research and know what to look out for.

3) Vaccination for HPV is NOT available to anyone over the age of 26. Also, last trip to the County HD for STD testing had a long convo on HPV. Usually in a dude the body naturally clears most HPV infection in a couple of years.

For 3: you're right, and if you haven't been vaccinated already, then you're sort of screwed in that respect, and (at least for men), even the "dangerous" strains of HPV aren't that dangerous for us: they're only dangerous because, in women, they cause cervical cancer. But my main point is that even though it's one that you can get even with a rubber, it isn't one of the main ones to be worried about for safety in the "rubber or not" debate.

What makes the issue of "safe sex" so difficult is "beliefs" based on myths based on old science or just plain propaganda. This discussion needs to have "opinions" backed up by credible sources.

I know I'm being pedantic in this post, but I agree with you on the whole. Sex education is terrible in the US, and a large chunk of what people nowadays "understand" is a direct result of fear-based propaganda from the 80's and 90's.

[LogJammin18]

www.myprivatelabs.com. Are a bunch of FUCKING THEIVES


These fuckers stole my money. I sent all the stuff in, paid for it and these bastards never did the work. AVOID AVOID AVOID

[Cephlapod Love]

Finally! Someone who get's it! The only guarantee is abstinence!

What I got out of that blog post was an indictment of lambskin or natural membrane type of condoms. Yes, those membranes might have pores that are small enough to allow the passage of pathogens.

But it does not say that latex or PVC condoms suffer from that problem! So to extend a conclusion to ALL condoms is a fallacy. If indeed there is credible evidence that PVC or Latex condoms allow the passage of pathogens, then none should post a link to that study, report or data.

Like I have said, too many "opinions" out there, and too much "spin" used to club you into submission of monogamy or whatever their agenda is.

[Cephlapod Love]

Now I like BBFS as much as the next guy, but it seems like there's a lot of misinformation flying around, and choosing not to use a condom specifically because you think it doesn't protect you isn't a good idea. Definitely, some infections you can get with or without a condom, but the ones that condoms DO protect against are the ones that you should worry about. The ones that are extremely common / dangerous, mainly chlamydia (extremely common and contagious), gonorrhea (extremely common and contagious), and HIV (extremely dangerous). The infections in that list you can get, sure, but you probably won't with / without a rubber: you can be vaccinated for the dangerous strains of HPV, syphilis is pretty rare now (and you'd see a giant, weeping sore which would be a good indicator to stay away), and when was the last time you heard someone contracting lice / molluscum?

I'm not advocating anyone does or doesn't use a rubber, I just think it's good to know all the facts before you decide.

1) I agree not using a condom because it might not protect you from something. Is crazy talk.

2) How is HIV "extremely dangerous?" That is the brain-washing from the 1990's that the government wants everyone to believe so that they can direct and control behavior. The conservatives want to tell you to be only in a monogamous relationship. However, health professions at testing facilities have told me and other health professionals have confirmed that HIV is no longer a death sentence, but now a manageable chronic condition. In fact if one is on anti-retroviral medication viral loads in the body are driven down to the non-detect level. Oh and since everyone has health insurance under ObamaCare, everyone should have access to the medication.

3) Vaccination for HPV is NOT available to anyone over the age of 26. Also, last trip to the County HD for STD testing had a long convo on HPV. Usually in a dude the body naturally clears most HPV infection in a couple of years.

https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/vaccine.html Looks like the risk of HPV being a bad player depends on one's number of sexual partners ( 50) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3231998/.

What makes the issue of "safe sex" so difficult is "beliefs" based on myths based on old science or just plain propaganda. This discussion needs to have "opinions" backed up by credible sources.