"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Ernest Ll]

You'd be surprised what you can find on LinkedIn and other business sites when fishing for 20 somethings.

A shocking number of them use a LinkedIn photo in the galleries, or their profile photo for tutoring or dog walking services. But the LinkedIn search function is gold.

Was messaging a grad student in Boston, who later revealed she was in Providence at Brown, but willing to drive. She told me her major and undergrad school. Guess what, there is only one person at Brown for Grad School that went to SDSU for undergrad. I've used alma mater and industry to verify an advertising account exec in Chicago.

Google reverse image search is probably only 50% accurate. I've been surprised how many times I've used it, found nothing, but found them by other means and there is half their profile gallery on facebook or instagram with no matches.

[Cephlapod Love]

The best options I'm aware of are tineye.com and Google image search.

Easiest way to use Google Image search is to use Google Chrome as your browser. You simply right click on any image and you will see a dip menu with and option t I search image on Google. Using other browsers, you can navigate to Google, select Imagaes search and click on the camera icon in the search box. You have an option to drag and drop an image into the box or input a file location from your hard drive or a url.

Does anyone know better search options?

Eh, can't remember which browsers do this as I use different ones. But one can open Google Images in a second tab. Then while viewing pics, drag that image to the GI tab, the tab opens and one can drop the pic into the search space. Fast & easy.

Love to see a way to search an image found elsewhere on FB, but think FB is too buttoned up for that. Also interested in the facial recognition FB uses. What are key things it looks for that one could alter in an image to defeat it?

[FruitNinja]

Big pot head. Not that pretty, maybe a 6 but a body and attitude that is a 10. The girl knows how to please a man. Two hours, two shots, and $$. 5. She never skipped a beat when I told her let's go again. The girl definitely has skills. Almost total deep throat. She told me she practices with a dildo. Got to love it.

They are there for the picking but one has to be patient. It's also $ and time intensive.

[FarFarAway]

Actually, if you're the person who found the Halloween code, it did work! At first, I couldn't get it to work, but then I realized that it had to be capitalized. Or maybe you capitalized the H in the post but it was supposed to be lower case. Regardless, your code did work! It was just case sensitive.

Where did you find that code and can we use it next time? It was a decent discount, wasn't it, like 10%?

I didn't post the code, I saw it posted here and tried to use it, and it didn't work. Actually, when I logged onto SA to set up my new account, there was a banner ad that also showed it. A 50% discount for the girls.

[DoubtingTom]

I don't think they discount much. I found that code too, was tempted to sign up again, not having been active recently, and it turned out the discount was only for girls.

Actually, if you're the person who found the Halloween code, it did work! At first, I couldn't get it to work, but then I realized that it had to be capitalized. Or maybe you capitalized the H in the post but it was supposed to be lower case. Regardless, your code did work! It was just case sensitive.

Where did you find that code and can we use it next time? It was a decent discount, wasn't it, like 10%?

[JustLonely]

So I did the usual Facebook Phone search and find the page for the person who had that number in 2015. No where close to whom I have been texting. I get four different people using a Google search that show up with Richmond addresses for that number. I am guessing those search results are fake to get me to buy a full report. Anyone know a reliable free search for cell numbers?

[Madaboutmax]

The best options I'm aware of are tineye.com and Google image search.

Easiest way to use Google Image search is to use Google Chrome as your browser. You simply right click on any image and you will see a dip menu with and option t I search image on Google. Using other browsers, you can navigate to Google, select Imagaes search and click on the camera icon in the search box. You have an option to drag and drop an image into the box or input a file location from your hard drive or a url.

Does anyone know better search options?

I put their phone number in facebook search and sometimes it goes right to their page.

How do you reverse image??

Thanks CM.

[CandyMan555]

Always reverse image search to find their social media, and if that doesn't work, ask them if they can give you their IG or FB to verify them. Through a little sleuthing, even if they don't use their full name on IG, you can figure out their name and then search on that. If you google them and find nothing, it's a bad sign imo.

I put their phone number in facebook search and sometimes it goes right to their page.

How do you reverse image??

Thanks CM.

[FarFarAway]

A while back on my "home" forum, the Cleveland SD / SB forum, someone mentioned a Halloween discount code for SA. That was great, but how do you find out what the current discount code is each month? I'm guessing that there is one each month to draw us in. Anybody know?

I don't think they discount much. I found that code too, was tempted to sign up again, not having been active recently, and it turned out the discount was only for girls.

[CrazySpice]

Any body had experience with ArtAndHappiness to share?

She seems like cool Indian chic. Richmond mongers should have an experience to share. Feel free to PM please.

[DoubtingTom]

A while back on my "home" forum, the Cleveland SD / SB forum, someone mentioned a Halloween discount code for SA. That was great, but how do you find out what the current discount code is each month? I'm guessing that there is one each month to draw us in. Anybody know?

[DoubtingTom]

A few months ago, I met an 18 year old high school girl from SA for lunch. I didn't like her that much, so that was the end of that. Just now, I looked her up on social media out of boredom and saw some recent posts of her 18th birthday party. Whoops. Thank goodness we only met for lunch! Time to start checking the driver's license when I meet these girls.

Always reverse image search to find their social media, and if that doesn't work, ask them if they can give you their IG or FB to verify them. Through a little sleuthing, even if they don't use their full name on IG, you can figure out their name and then search on that. If you google them and find nothing, it's a bad sign imo.

[TomDickNHarry]

I personally do not give any money just to met. Scam. The one I'm with now hasn't asked me for money after I gave her some money after we had been intimate. I've seen her after and she hasn't mention anything about money other than she needed to make a credit card payment. I'll help her with that.

I never pay for a M&G, if they have a drive I will even if they don't ask (and only talking 20 to 40) but when they look for real money I politely say I don't pay for M&G's, that it's for both of us to determine interest, and that really I get nothing out of that, that I want to be friends but am not lonely / desperate, and that while I know their time is valuable, so is mine. Even if they don't have a drive I have given 20 or something for gas when requested but I have a problem with significant donations for M&G's.

First if they can find repeated guys to give them 100 or 200 to buy them dinner, why would they ever go to the FC? I know many of these girls are not like that but some are. I've had at least two where I wasn't even giving them that much (maybe like $25 gift cards) but I eventually figured out that they were using me for nice meals. I basically asked if we would eventually move forward and both said no after some discussion. I felt more used by someone who wasn't honest about intentions than like I failed at a chase. I've had 2 this month where when I said no to paying for a M&G with them, then after enough texting back and forth they admitted that's exactly what they have been doing, going on paid dates. I dodged a bullet with both.

But if you're having success in doing that don't change it, but I rarely if ever do it and it's only cost me a handful of M&Gs over the years. I like the chase too for a newbie, but I don't like going on 3+ dates to close when there's a good chance it's a waste of money, and time, and more risk at being seen in public since I have an SO. I also find that by being crystal clear that my support and the allowance is based on us becoming physical that they are more motivated to get there. The most cautious one I had took 4 dates, for which she only got a meal or coffee and gas money, she kept meeting me to get comfortable but she was clear what had to happen for us to have an arrangement. And she got there, and there is no doubt that I was the first guy she ever did this with. I wonder if I had been giving her 200 for M&Gs, or even 100 if she ever would've done it. I tend to doubt it.

[FruitNinja]

Yes, that is part of what I was trying to say to the poster, even if I was a bit too diplomatic about it. I think he's barking up the wrong tree if he wants "hos". He will definitely find them if that's what he's after, but he will only land overpriced backpage girls that are charging twice as much as they do in their original habitat.

That feeling of being special you just described is what they are really after -- not just SBs but women in general. This is yet another differentiator between an SB and a pro. A pro is in it for money, period. Maybe she's feeding a habit, maybe not, but at the end of the day her goal is to maximize her income. An SB, above all wants attention and attention from a successful man is like crack to them. It's not an SB exclusive, ALL women want attention. Once that need for attention is being properly fed (a learned skill for the SD), they will take their mind off of money.

I truly think the trick to success in the bowl is to understand that an SB is closer to a girlfriend or even just a female fuck buddy than an escort. Pull the right strings and they won't even take your money anymore.

I wrote about this recently, but on my last traveling binge, I dropped my longstanding strategy of sending them home after the sex was over (this by the way is nothing against them, I just sleep better alone). When searching for POTS, I intentionally culled the herd down to about 6 or seven that I really wanted to meet, aiming for one in each city with two backups in case the first fell through. This time, I said fuck it to a good nights rest, and spent between 2-5 days with the ones I wanted to meet the most. Without fail with each one, the need for allowance dropped out of the picture by day two. One started trying to pick up the check for our meals on day two! Another one decided she was in love with me by day 3 and specifically asked me to remove money from the equation, because she didn't really need it and didn't want it to get in the way of what could develop. The others received my standard gift of $$ (not including expenses like meals and drinks), but that's for overnight and multiple rounds, and nothing that was agreed upon or specifically asked for.

I'm not 100% sure I will do it the same way next time, because breaking it off with the "in love by day 3" girl was a bit draining, I felt like it was a stressful surgical exercise where her emotions were like critical arteries to be cautious of, but the point is that once that need for attention is properly tapped into, the world is our oyster and the girls will line up, sugar or no sugar.

I think some think there is a set formula. It's different as people are different. I have a 30 year old that has me over feeds me, gets wine, and is literally the best piece of ass I've ever had. No woman on earth could suck a dick like she can. I know she has feelings but I have told her I will never get serious with anyone.

A 24 year old that costs me dinner and $$ for an all nighter. Total freak, will do as I tell her. Multiple cummer.

A 19 year old that I basically take out and help with bills. Hot body, sex is very good but she's only good for one shot. It drains her.

I treat them all as girlfriends in some fashion. The 30 and 24 don't much care if I fuck others. They tell me they are not and I have no reson to believe otherwise based on my observations. The 19 year old I told I didn't want her fucking anyone else. Not sure about this. We haven't talked about that other than I told her I didn't want her fucking anyone. A little selfish but she's fresh and I want to have my fun with her.

Tonight after we had our fun she went to the bathroom. Called me to come and see our combined cum running down her legs. So hot for both of us.

[FruitNinja]

I never pay an allowance for a meet and greet. I always cover the meet expenses, but nothing more.

I have had a number of girls refuse to meet because of that, but I never felt like I missed out on anything. Some have asked, but still agreed to meet even though I refused to pay an allowance for the meet and greet. I feel like I avoided future headaches.

My impression is that girls who require an allowance for a meet and greet are scammers or have gps. Neither is my target demographic. LOL.

I'm curious, have others had successful arrangements with girls who demand an allowance for the meet?

I personally do not give any money just to met. Scam. The one I'm with now hasn't asked me for money after I gave her some money after we had been intimate. I've seen her after and she hasn't mention anything about money other than she needed to make a credit card payment. I'll help her with that.