"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[DoggieFan]

Ok, I couldn't be happier with my SB of two years now. She really could be a Maxim covergirl, is smart, loving and sexy as all outdoors.

The problem she's a four hour drive away. I'm married, she's engaged to her live in BF. It's easier to see her once school starts (25 year old full time college student that also works about 20 hours a week.).

Sometimes we see each other three weeks in a month, sometimes once or twice. Sometime we miss a whole month, especially semester break and the summer, when she's working more and can't use the going to the library excuse on the BF.

I find if it's been two weeks and we aren't going to see each other the next week, I need to go back to the escort route. I hate not seeing her and helping her out, plus I see her for between 3-6 hours vs max of an hour with an escort, with no way near the intamancy and menu options.

Charlie Sheen was right, you don't pay them for sex, you pay them to leave.

I don't want a local SB because it's to risky and I doubt I'd ever get so lucky again.

Am I alone or do others have the same issue?

[DoggieFan]

Ok, I couldn't be happier with my SB of two years now. She really could be a Maxim covergirl, is smart, loving and sexy as all outdoors.

The problem she's a four hour drive away. I'm married, she's engaged to her live in BF. It's easier to see her once school starts (25 year old full time college student that also works about 20 hours a week.).

Sometimes we see each other three weeks in a month, sometimes once or twice. Sometime we miss a whole month, especially semester break and the summer, when she's working more and can't use the going to the library excuse on the BF.

I find if it's been two weeks and we aren't going to see each other the next week, I need to go back to the escort route. I hate not seeing her and helping her out, plus I see her for between 3-6 hours vs max of an hour with an escort, with no way near the intamancy and menu options.

Charlie Sheen was right, you don't pay them for sex, you pay them to leave.

I don't want a local SB because it's to risky and I doubt I'd ever get so lucky again.

Am I alone or do others have the same issue?

[FarFarAway]

Bros. I have been trying out SB for the benefit of the here assembled SD fraternity. I see fewer women than SA who are less active on the site, to be sure, but I am still interested in several, and they are safer for some reasons unique to me. Anyway, you have to buy credits on the site to message girls or see their pix. $60 is the minimum, which gives you 10 conversations. This would certainly be enough for me to try it out. I tried to buy them using the standard procedure for SA, OneVanilla prepaid cards. Their payment processor ccbill.com could not get the charge to go through, and Visa says that it is b / c they come up on their radar as a foreign entity. Supposedly, one can't use OneVanilla for a foreign charge (though, obviously, many of us succeed with them on SA). I asked if they could accept a PayPal transfer, but ccbill.com does not. I await a response about alternatives from the Secret Benefits customer service.

I wonder if anyone else has been successful with an anonymous payment to Secret Benefits. Cheers, FFA.

[FanRat]

That's crazy stuff:

"I only let her get away with it a couple of times. ".

". burned the apartment down. ".

"Some girls think horny old men will fall for anything. ". Seems like they may be correct! LOL.

But I have had far more really good experiences than bad ones so I'm not complaining. Might be a bit more careful, but not complaining LOL.

[Madaboutmax]

That's crazy stuff:

"I only let her get away with it a couple of times. ".

". burned the apartment down. ".

"Some girls think horny old men will fall for anything. ". Seems like they may be correct! LOL.

I have met 2 true Redheads on SA in the last couple years.

1 is early 20's VCU student. 5 foot 6, slim bangin body and very cute face. She didn't take dick too well, always looked uncomfortable LOL. Her head game was strong though. But after the 1st couple dates she became a real scammer. Wanting to pick up cash to pay some bill and promising to come back for fun after but then disappearing for days with some story that she thought I'd buy. Some girls assume that horny old men will fall for anything if they think their dick might get wet. I only let her get away with that a couple times before I stopped bothering. I did see her at Kroger recently but she was with a dude and gave me that "don't talk to me look" with a wink. I texted her a couple days ago. I figure Ill give her the opp to pay me that visit I've already paid for before going further. Haven't heard back but if I do and its cool Ill share digits. Just be forewarned about her BS.

The other was late 20's, 5 foot 2, also slim bangin body. Visits were much better than the other girl. We had a nice thing going on and after a couple months we were both looking for a place at the same time so we decided to be roommates. Found a decent apt on Cary and moved in August of last year. Figured out pretty quick that she had some mental issues but nothing severe until the holidays when she started acting really strange. Then in early January last year she flipped her lid, burned the apartment down and disappeared. Turned up a few days later in a mental hospital in PA. She is back and out on a plea deal now living in Chester I think. I haven't talked to her since she torched the apartment.

YMMV but I haven't had much luck with redheads LOL.

Be safe!

[FanRat]

Anyone know of any good redhead SBs in RVA.

I have met 2 true Redheads on SA in the last couple years.

1 is early 20's VCU student. 5 foot 6, slim bangin body and very cute face. She didn't take dick too well, always looked uncomfortable LOL. Her head game was strong though. But after the 1st couple dates she became a real scammer. Wanting to pick up cash to pay some bill and promising to come back for fun after but then disappearing for days with some story that she thought I'd buy. Some girls assume that horny old men will fall for anything if they think their dick might get wet. I only let her get away with that a couple times before I stopped bothering. I did see her at Kroger recently but she was with a dude and gave me that "don't talk to me look" with a wink. I texted her a couple days ago. I figure Ill give her the opp to pay me that visit I've already paid for before going further. Haven't heard back but if I do and its cool Ill share digits. Just be forewarned about her BS.

The other was late 20's, 5 foot 2, also slim bangin body. Visits were much better than the other girl. We had a nice thing going on and after a couple months we were both looking for a place at the same time so we decided to be roommates. Found a decent apt on Cary and moved in August of last year. Figured out pretty quick that she had some mental issues but nothing severe until the holidays when she started acting really strange. Then in early January last year she flipped her lid, burned the apartment down and disappeared. Turned up a few days later in a mental hospital in PA. She is back and out on a plea deal now living in Chester I think. I haven't talked to her since she torched the apartment.

YMMV but I haven't had much luck with redheads LOL.

Be safe!

[Ernest Ll]

Anyone know of any good redhead SBs in RVA.

[FTP1999]

Oh no.

I just noticed that the one week upgrade option in SA applet is gone 😥.

Bummer.

I downloaded the app today, not sure when it disappeared.

[Snake27]

My questions is do you just ghost them outright and not put them in their place?
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How do you brothers keep these girls from finding you? I mean they can look at the credit card slip, check with whatever hotel you stay at, look at your vehicle registration, etc etc and get your name. From there, they got you.

I suggest ghosting anyone who is the least bit psychotic. There are plenty of fish in the sea, as the saying goes.

As far as keeping anonymity (a subject extensively discussed here) you just have to think of the precautions and take them. But my opinion is you ultimately have to be willing to assume the small risk. Otherwise, stay out of the game. If my wife found out? She'd be pissed but we'd ride it out because it's just not THAT serious. A love affair with a woman my age would be much worse. If my job found out? Well, they already accept me for the eccentric person I am, so I think I'd survive. Anyway, it's marginally a misdemeanor and maybe not even that depending on your perspective. In summary, get rid of her, mitigate the risks, but realize them and enter if you can accept them.

[Rvaexec60]

You would share her SA handle so we can enjoy time with her and report back to you.

TFW you see your neighbor's 19 yo daughter (who moved out after an epic blowup just after Thanksgiving) on SA looking absolutely delicious.

[Tidad]

TFW you see your neighbor's 19 yo daughter (who moved out after an epic blowup just after Thanksgiving) on SA looking absolutely delicious.

[FarFarAway]

I'm a fairly seasoned SD and worked SA off and on for going on four years. I've done well protecting my privacy and such, but have ran into a couple crazies, or jaded women lately. The type who have double standards. Like you owe them a relationship, or something committed, while they're out there fucking everyone. LOL. Usually I've found this happens because they actually like you and when some of these young women like you, they get clingy and downright scary.

My questions is do you just ghost them outright and not put them in their place? One girl is insisting she find out who I am, where I live, she's mad as hell, as I had sex with her twice, paid her allowance and didn't want to see her again. She's going off on my big time as she felt we had some chemistry between us. Meanwhile, she's working the site 24/7. Do I put her in her place and call her out, or just ghost her? I also know if anyone truly wants to find out about someone today, they can do it. So if she really put her mind to it, I'm sure she could show up at my front door. I was good to this ***** and she won; t just go away.

My advice is to drop off the face of the earth, especially if you have a SO (my situation). The momentary glee you get from telling her what a psycho she is could come back to haunt you if your operational security (WIDELY discussed on this thread) hasn't been **perfect. All of the things you mentioned (and many more) must be attended to to maintain your anonymity to SBs, and keep your actions secret from a spouse. My personal values are such that I don't commit to a SB until I know her pretty well, and I haven't ghosted on anyone. I told them flat out I couldn't see them anymore. Several are still friendly w / me, and would entertain seeing me again (for coffee or FC). If you aren't confident of that, you know what you have to do. FFAway.

[Cephlapod Love]

How do you brothers keep these girls from finding you? I mean they can look at the credit card slip, check with whatever hotel you stay at, look at your vehicle registration, etc etc and get your name. From there, they got you.

It is all in how you play the game, what control you keep over meetings and other ways of being self protective.

1) Why would she ever have a need to look at your CC slip?

2) Do you use aliases when dating? Can she rent the room & you reimburse her?

3) Why would you show her a vehicle registration? There are ways to cover your plate during the time she might see it.

Any girl that tries anything "to get you" should be dropped immediately. Go ghost, change hobby number / phone / email, etc.

[EvilTmp]

This is nothing out of the ordinary.

About no. 1 you tell her point blank she's playing games with you and you're not into that then stop responding. If she has a personality disorder (likely), she'll turn on the serious guilt tripping and tall tales about whatever bs is in her head. How she's in some trouble and needs you (it's all an act BTW and she's likely a serial liar). Sounds like you spent some with her and found her lacking so just move on. With this type the quicker you cut her off the better. If you keep responding she'll keep an interest in you and escalate.

About no. 2 you're going to have to balance your interest in staying private and you liking her. Again, tell her things are good as they are and maybe in time you'll open up to her. This one sounds more like a keeper but be clear about what you want and stay in control of the relationship. Pointing at the door and saying to a girl "you're free to go if you don't like it" works wonders in just about every scenario.

I'm a fairly seasoned SD and worked SA off and on for going on four years. I've done well protecting my privacy and such, but have ran into a couple crazies, or jaded women lately. The type who have double standards. Like you owe them a relationship, or something committed, while they're out there fucking everyone. LOL. Usually I've found this happens because they actually like you and when some of these young women like you, they get clingy and downright scary.

My questions is do you just ghost them outright and not put them in their place? One girl is insisting she find out who I am, where I live, she's mad as hell, as I had sex with her twice, paid her allowance and didn't want to see her again. She's going off on my big time as she felt we had some chemistry between us. Meanwhile, she's working the site 24/7. Do I put her in her place and call her out, or just ghost her? I also know if anyone truly wants to find out about someone today, they can do it. So if she really put her mind to it, I'm sure she could show up at my front door. I was good to this ***** and she won; t just go away.

The second case is a girl who has a PhD, but in the process she's lost her mind. She's 28, recently graduated with her PhD and she's insane, but sweet. The pressure to find work, her recently lost boyfriend and so, had her on a bag of medications. We went out for drinks and both got a little drunk and made out, held hands, it was sweet, she told me, "I love you" but I attributed it to being drunk. Well now she wants to be exclusive, and wants me to be her boyfriend. She's not had many, only three her entire life. She too is demanding she know who I am, where I live etc, etc. However this girl is actually not seeing anyone and she has kind of a sweet side and I sort of like her.

How do you brothers keep these girls from finding you? I mean they can look at the credit card slip, check with whatever hotel you stay at, look at your vehicle registration, etc etc and get your name. From there, they got you.

[John HandCock]

I'm a fairly seasoned SD and worked SA off and on for going on four years. I've done well protecting my privacy and such, but have ran into a couple crazies, or jaded women lately. The type who have double standards. Like you owe them a relationship, or something committed, while they're out there fucking everyone. LOL. Usually I've found this happens because they actually like you and when some of these young women like you, they get clingy and downright scary.

My questions is do you just ghost them outright and not put them in their place? One girl is insisting she find out who I am, where I live, she's mad as hell, as I had sex with her twice, paid her allowance and didn't want to see her again. She's going off on my big time as she felt we had some chemistry between us. Meanwhile, she's working the site 24/7. Do I put her in her place and call her out, or just ghost her? I also know if anyone truly wants to find out about someone today, they can do it. So if she really put her mind to it, I'm sure she could show up at my front door. I was good to this ***** and she won; t just go away.

The second case is a girl who has a PhD, but in the process she's lost her mind. She's 28, recently graduated with her PhD and she's insane, but sweet. The pressure to find work, her recently lost boyfriend and so, had her on a bag of medications. We went out for drinks and both got a little drunk and made out, held hands, it was sweet, she told me, "I love you" but I attributed it to being drunk. Well now she wants to be exclusive, and wants me to be her boyfriend. She's not had many, only three her entire life. She too is demanding she know who I am, where I live etc, etc. However this girl is actually not seeing anyone and she has kind of a sweet side and I sort of like her.

How do you brothers keep these girls from finding you? I mean they can look at the credit card slip, check with whatever hotel you stay at, look at your vehicle registration, etc etc and get your name. From there, they got you.

Yep if they want to find out who you are they can. All knids of secret squirrel shit on the site to use but in reality if they want to know who you are they can get it. Just part of the game.