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  1. #320

    Couple cents.

    So I have been on SA since summer. Tried it in smaller cities near Chicago area, and in Chicago, and yes the location matters when it comes to prices and all that. If you are wanting some hot girl 18-24, most likely you will not get it for anything less than 300. If you are getting it, I have found it is mostly for a reason as someone mentioned. (drug problem, scam, or legit pro etc.) The best success I have had is selling myself a bit on what they would get with me, vs. Someone else (as I am not super old, or unattractive). You don't see a lot of shared profiles of successful hot girls, because usually a lot of work and messages went back and forth to find them. I have shared a few that have wasted my time or have found to be scamming guys, as there is no reason to even try with those that do so.

    In a smaller market, like Indiana, Wisconsin, better prices can sometimes be had, but the girls in a lot of cases have already seen major money thrown their way by some desperate guy, so it makes finding a "cheap"price rare. In this instance, it is the one time I don't think you want to find the cheapest deal really, you want a good mutual fit. I did get lucky a few times this summer, with some attractive, 18 year olds, who hadn't yet gotten the influx of 50-80 year olds throwing thousands their way, and managed to keep it in a 100-200 range. That is an outliers at best. Any time we spent wasn't timed like a pro date, so I didn't keep track of hours or anything like that. I also didn't treat them like you would a backpage or whatever. As some mentioned, the hot girl in hs knows her worth. That also means, however, if she had similar offers from someone who was also the hot guy in hs, vs someone who wasn't, it is most likely the former would win.

    So yes, super hot girls are out there, and maybe in one's price range, but they are not available to everyone, like regular dating.

  2. #319
    Quote Originally Posted by Chad213  [View Original Post]
    You answered your own question. Whenever guys talk about looks it's always YMMV in reality. Limited yourself to only white thin athletic girls you'll have a way harder time getting what you want since you're already limited in looks then you got to find one that would be OK with you and then have her price match what you want. That's a hard bargain. FYI those younger thin white athletic girls will always want top $. They were the hot girl in school who only fucked the popular guys usually. Why would they give it up for $200 when they know an older guy will dish out $300-500 all day. Unless they got a vice to support but then the looks diminish.

    I found a sexy little 18 yr old who's a bit nerdy in looks but damn sexy naked w my dick in her mouth and for a very reasonable price (under $300) keep trying and don't limit yourself so much. You'll have a blast. Otherwise if you want to fuck 10's all day you're going to pay for it.
    Good for you guys. I'm glad you're finding success on there. If I'm on a site like that I'm going to go after who I'm attracted to- otherwise there's no really point for me. Pau is correct- Richmond is a smaller city and has a lower cost of living so it makes sense that the gifts are lower. They have the most comprehensive arrangement thread on here which is why I read it looking for tips before I signed up over the summer. However, some of these chicks want 3000-4000+ a month. That's like 35-40,000 a year tax free and like I said earlier doesn't count getting a nice hotel room + dinner+ drinks. That's not exactly being cheap for most guys & way too much- for me at least to do on any kind of regular basis. Anyway, I just wanted to share my experience on there for others thinking about it. Good luck.

  3. #318
    You answered your own question. Whenever guys talk about looks it's always YMMV in reality. Limited yourself to only white thin athletic girls you'll have a way harder time getting what you want since you're already limited in looks then you got to find one that would be OK with you and then have her price match what you want. That's a hard bargain. FYI those younger thin white athletic girls will always want top $. They were the hot girl in school who only fucked the popular guys usually. Why would they give it up for $200 when they know an older guy will dish out $300-500 all day. Unless they got a vice to support but then the looks diminish.

    I found a sexy little 18 yr old who's a bit nerdy in looks but damn sexy naked w my dick in her mouth and for a very reasonable price (under $300) keep trying and don't limit yourself so much. You'll have a blast. Otherwise if you want to fuck 10's all day you're going to pay for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellster  [View Original Post]
    I'm not the tallest guy out there, but I work out regularly and am good looking. I don't know- couldn't tell you. I do know that I was expecting better luck after reading the Richmond review board. I thought guys would have a major advantage- being that there are supposed to be more women on the site than guys and gifts would be lower but it seemed like gals were overwhelmed with options or just had crazy expectations and were looking for a golden lottery ticket. Also there were too many fakes who were actually pros or porn actresses- not regular gals.

    Maybe the women on there now are more reasonable- who knows. I only tried for white women who were thin or had an athletic build as that's whom I most attracted to. I gave most of them my number after my subscription ended- very few contacted me- so they obviously weren't interested. That was my experience. Hopefully you guys have better luck.

  4. #317

    Few Things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellster  [View Original Post]
    I'm not the tallest guy out there, but I work out regularly and am good looking. I don't know- couldn't tell you. I do know that I was expecting better luck after reading the Richmond review board. I thought guys would have a major advantage- being that there are supposed to be more women on the site than guys and gifts would be lower but it seemed like gals were overwhelmed with options or just had crazy expectations and were looking for a golden lottery ticket. Also there were too many fakes who were actually pros or porn actresses- not regular gals.

    Maybe the women on there now are more reasonable- who knows. I only tried for white women who were thin or had an athletic build as that's whom I most attracted to. I gave most of them my number after my subscription ended- very few contacted me- so they obviously weren't interested. That was my experience. Hopefully you guys have better luck.
    Cost of living is less in places like Richmond than Chicago so lower amount of $ goes further.

    The cheap girls in Chicago are cheap for a reason. They aren't the head turners. The head turners are usually the ones that are picky and have higher $ expectations. Sounds like you have standards / preferences that don't align well with cheap play (I know this isn't hard and fast rules, and what's not and what's average is subjective).

    Lastly, SA is a huge numbers game. You have to throw mud against a wall, and a lot of mid, to get some ones that stick.

  5. #316
    Quote Originally Posted by Chad213  [View Original Post]
    I don't get this. I've had plenty of girls just not respond or want 400+. But I ignore those and keep it moving. Found plenty of girls around 200-300. I don't say anything special nor am I extremely good looking. Little on the heavy side but I still don't have bad luck like this. I think the older you may be and depending on what you put out in your profile makes them think you might give more. All I do is PM asking how they are and if they're into NSA fwb pay per visit meets. If they respond yes go from where is no move on. Every time I sign up I get more girls than I can afford and I'm not rich.
    I'm not the tallest guy out there, but I work out regularly and am good looking. I don't know- couldn't tell you. I do know that I was expecting better luck after reading the Richmond review board. I thought guys would have a major advantage- being that there are supposed to be more women on the site than guys and gifts would be lower but it seemed like gals were overwhelmed with options or just had crazy expectations and were looking for a golden lottery ticket. Also there were too many fakes who were actually pros or porn actresses- not regular gals.

    Maybe the women on there now are more reasonable- who knows. I only tried for white women who were thin or had an athletic build as that's whom I most attracted to. I gave most of them my number after my subscription ended- very few contacted me- so they obviously weren't interested. That was my experience. Hopefully you guys have better luck.

  6. #315

    Same here

    Quote Originally Posted by Chad213  [View Original Post]
    I don't get this. I've had plenty of girls just not respond or want 400+. But I ignore those and keep it moving. Found plenty of girls around 200-300. I don't say anything special nor am I extremely good looking. Little on the heavy side but I still don't have bad luck like this. I think the older you may be and depending on what you put out in your profile makes them think you might give more. All I do is PM asking how they are and if they're into NSA fwb pay per visit meets. If they respond yes go from where is no move on. Every time I sign up I get more girls than I can afford and I'm not rich.
    I just joined last week and had my first session with a 21 yr white actress yesterday. She has done a couple of movies. She asked for 250, but it ended be more as she could not host and I had to get a room. I have 4 more sessions scheduled already. If an Asian guy like me can get white young girls, you should not have problems.

    I won't renew after this month, mostly because I can't keep up and my little junior is going to fall off with all those fucking.

  7. #314

    Average rate per hour

    Quote Originally Posted by ToplessnCago  [View Original Post]
    Thought this pricing analysis might be helpful:

    41 (67%) out of 61 women provided rates.

    $200 = 7 women (17%.

    $250 = 3 women (7%.

    $300 = 13 women (32%.

    $350 = 5 women (12%.

    $400 = 8 women (20%.

    $500 = 5 women (12%.

    $300 or greater = 31 women (76%.

    Less than $300 = 10 women (24%.

    Average rate for all 41 = $329.

    32 (78%) are located in the western suburbs.

    9 (22%) are located in Chicago.

    Naturally, menu and performance is not part of this assessment (or I would be one exhausted guy). .
    While the total rate is important, I prefer to look at the average hourly rate per meet. I had 3 $400 offers yesterday. One was for 1 hour, one was for 4 hours and the last one had no time limit (I had a coffee meet with her yesterday. She is Asian and I am Asian, so that might have contributed to this no time limit).

  8. #313

    Hmm

    I don't get this. I've had plenty of girls just not respond or want 400+. But I ignore those and keep it moving. Found plenty of girls around 200-300. I don't say anything special nor am I extremely good looking. Little on the heavy side but I still don't have bad luck like this. I think the older you may be and depending on what you put out in your profile makes them think you might give more. All I do is PM asking how they are and if they're into NSA fwb pay per visit meets. If they respond yes go from where is no move on. Every time I sign up I get more girls than I can afford and I'm not rich.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellster  [View Original Post]
    I tried SA for 2 months on the summer. I tried for white women from 21-50 with slim / athletic builds. (I'm middle aged but look good for my age). Anyway many never responded which surprised me. I got flaked on a few times. A few that sounded like potential matches went dark when trying to set up a day to meet. The ones that did want to meet wanted a lot for a gift- 400 seemed to be avg asking price. Some asked for $500,700, etc. One said her minimum was 1,000- craziness! Note many couldn't host- so that would mean having to get a hotel room + drinks or dinner which adds to the cost of what they want. Not as much of an issue if you're visiting Chicago on business on the company's dime- but for locals it adds up. Many others never responded. I wonder if they were phony ads just pretending to be real in order to keep men getting the SA subscription. I know of one guy who had a lot of success on there- of course this guy was rolling in dough- so if money is no object it's candyland. The two gals I met were near my age- so not exactly babies in the truest sense of the definition. They were cool, but in the end I decided to quit- the cons (there were some I didn't mention as well) outweighed the pros for me at this time.

  9. #312

    Sa

    I tried SA for 2 months on the summer. I tried for white women from 21-50 with slim / athletic builds. (I'm middle aged but look good for my age). Anyway many never responded which surprised me. I got flaked on a few times. A few that sounded like potential matches went dark when trying to set up a day to meet. The ones that did want to meet wanted a lot for a gift- 400 seemed to be avg asking price. Some asked for $500,700, etc. One said her minimum was 1,000- craziness! Note many couldn't host- so that would mean having to get a hotel room + drinks or dinner which adds to the cost of what they want. Not as much of an issue if you're visiting Chicago on business on the company's dime- but for locals it adds up. Many others never responded. I wonder if they were phony ads just pretending to be real in order to keep men getting the SA subscription. I know of one guy who had a lot of success on there- of course this guy was rolling in dough- so if money is no object it's candyland. The two gals I met were near my age- so not exactly babies in the truest sense of the definition. They were cool, but in the end I decided to quit- the cons (there were some I didn't mention as well) outweighed the pros for me at this time.

  10. #311

    Pricing Analysis

    Thought this pricing analysis might be helpful:

    41 (67%) out of 61 women provided rates.

    $200 = 7 women (17%.

    $250 = 3 women (7%.

    $300 = 13 women (32%.

    $350 = 5 women (12%.

    $400 = 8 women (20%.

    $500 = 5 women (12%.

    $300 or greater = 31 women (76%.

    Less than $300 = 10 women (24%.

    Average rate for all 41 = $329.

    32 (78%) are located in the western suburbs.

    9 (22%) are located in Chicago.

    Naturally, menu and performance is not part of this assessment (or I would be one exhausted guy). .

  11. #310

    Proof would be most helpful

    Feel free to share proof. I am specifically interested in apples to apples comparisons including SA links of 18 - 24 yo's in the western suburbs with the level of BBFS you received and rate. PM if necessary. If you share details, I will contact each one, setup a meet and share the results.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTravelingMan  [View Original Post]
    You would think I was lying if I told you what some girls ask for in allowance. But I have proof. You are overpaying. Or maybe I just get the good looking guy discount?

  12. #309

    You are overpaying

    You would think I was lying if I told you what some girls ask for in allowance. But I have proof. You are overpaying. Or maybe I just get the good looking guy discount?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToplessnCago  [View Original Post]
    The average is approx. 300. However, the times are not locked in to one hr. I've paid both 250 and 500 and had a full 90 minutes. On the other hand, I think the fastest was 45 minutes for 300. I was expecting a second pop, but she had other ideas. As with any arrangement, setting clear expectations up front helps.

  13. #308

    Avg Cost / Meet

    The average is approx. 300. However, the times are not locked in to one hr. I've paid both 250 and 500 and had a full 90 minutes. On the other hand, I think the fastest was 45 minutes for 300. I was expecting a second pop, but she had other ideas. As with any arrangement, setting clear expectations up front helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebruno  [View Original Post]
    So what's the average cost per meet on those six?

  14. #307

    More GPS girls.

    Jessxx22.

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...e-d3568186e137

    Wants $4 K a month. Enough said.

    Jdollx.

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...ailbox=archive

    Wants $1500-2500 a month for one date a week. Mixed girl with a cute face, but probably very thick as she only has one picture that does not show the lower body. She also lists herself as curvy so you know that's probably why.

  15. #306
    So what's the average cost per meet on those six?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToplessnCago  [View Original Post]
    Paid for a month of premium service, $80. Built a profile with one public and one private pic. Exchanged messages with approx. 350 women. Collected 60 phone numbers of women between the ages of 18 and 25, with a few exceptions (late 20's, early 30's). All of the 60 said they wanted to meet and have sex for money. Rates varied from 200 to 500 for one hr and some up to two hrs. Met with 6 of them so far. All 6 of them included BBBJ, dfk, daty, dato, msog, 69, mish, k9, fuma, bls. 3 of them included BBFS (including 2 greek). I would repeat with 4 of the 6, 1 maybe, 1 definitely no.

    Had about 20% flake out on me so far. That means they said they wanted to meet, but when it came down to actually doing it, they either went silent at the last minute or came up with excuses why they couldn't meet.

    Due to the relatively young ages, 80% of the women could not host due to living with family, roommates, etc. I learned to factor in the flake out rate when paying for hotels and plan to meet in hotel parking lot before booking the room. Also, found that booking multiple women for the same hotel (different times) was helpful for reducing the hosting cost.

    On a positive note, one unexpectedly showed up with a friend and we had a threesome! I guess that counts as met with 7! LOL.

    I will probably keep working my way down the list that I have compiled until I find the top 3 or 4 of the group and then just revisit those going forward. I will probably not pay for another month of premium membership since this represents too much time and effort for the ROI. Much easier and faster to pay a well reviewed escort for roughly the same price and service level.

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