General Reports

[Gexem]

I see there's been lots of SA (and similar sites) discussion in the last few days since I was last on. These sugar-dating sites are my main hobbying focus now, have been for a couple of years. Every once in a while I get the urge for something quick and look on BP, but it's getting more and more rare.

It's right in the name: "sugar-DATING". Most of the girls expect to be treated like a date, not just meet in a hotel room for a quickie. You're always going to see the equivalent of BP ads for that sort of thing. On the sugar-dating sites, you need to expect to spend some time getting to know the girl (online messages and in person). They want to be treated like a date, not a hooker.

As for expense, you're always going to be able to find a way to get your nut off quicker and cheaper on BP. No worries if that's what you're after, that's what those girls are there for! For sugar sites, you'll usually need to be willing to invest time as well as money. I've had girls literally message me for months before we finally got together, and once you do meet in person there's the "dating" aspect. I generally end up parting with around 400 on a date, 200-300 to the girl (sometimes direct, sometimes gifts) and 100-200 on food / drinks / event tickets / etc. That can vary by girl, of course, I've gone as high as 800 and as low as 80.

In exchange, you get generally younger and better-looking girls who don't do the jaded professional performance of the average BP provider. They're often inexperienced (particularly compared to us well-traveled mongers) but almost always enthusiastic about the sex once you get to that point. Don't expect a great BJ or Greek or whatever right off the bat, but in my experience performance improves as you go along. Several hours of playtime is common, and overnights happen regularly.

Right now I'm seeing two, a 23 year old nurse and a 22 year old mall salesclerk. In sheer looks, both are better than 75% of the pictures on BP, and thus 99% of the actual BP girls. Neither would look out of place on a college cheerleading squad. Try finding that at any price on BP! I'm doing 250/ week for the 23 yo, instead of a per-meeting amount, because she likes getting together more often. The 22 yo prefers per-meeting and is usually only available a couple times a month, generally give her 400 a visit. Both have spent the night at my place a couple of times as well as shorter get-togethers.

So it really boils down to what you're looking for. Just a quick nut, for the lowest cost, minimal overlap with civilian life? Stay on BP. Got more time to spend, want to avoid the "professional lay" aspect, ok with following up false leads until you get a good one? Sugar sites can have really good rewards.

[Dave Usa]

Does the hobby equivalent of trivago exist?

How's the system you're developing coming along?

[Amaregraeco]

You and I should start one and we could make a ton of money. LOL.

I mean seriously. Think about it. What are most hobbyists trying to find? A decent time at a reasonable fee, right? Think about Angie's List, eHarmony, and Trivago, and apply their conceptual niche to this endeavor. You can search for a car, a house, a loan, a meal, and candidate significant others easier than finding a decent time.

[Benz1]

Saw Autumn yesterday. She is everything that Benz reported. Very sweet girl with a ala carte menu. And like Irish guy reported it feels like you're back in high school with her and car dates. Contact was through Benz and available to seniors only. Will repeat.

If you haven't made contact with Autumn through her phone yet just hold her info.

Utr's are on and off again and I will let you know when she's on again.

Christmas shopping has a way of creating the need to suck and fuck us again soon.

Thick Latina is working all through the holidays and is living in a nice hotel. I reviewed her in the BP reviews section
Happy Holidays.

[Stroker417]

Saw Autumn yesterday. She is everything that Benz reported. Very sweet girl with a ala carte menu. And like Irish guy reported it feels like you're back in high school with her and car dates. Contact was through Benz and available to seniors only. Will repeat.

[EdMonger]

You and I should start one and we could make a ton of money. LOL.

Does the hobby equivalent of trivago exist?

[Amaregraeco]

Does the hobby equivalent of trivago exist?

[Freessi]

Okay, this makes more sense then. Basically higher-class, more time like a casual dating scenario because it's going to have some grounding to it -- but in the end, you get more Time spent for the $$, and quality sex-time for the $ than just about any high-class provider. It makes financial sense, especially when you find value in role-playing as a guy going out in general with her (related to shopping too of course). I don't find much ROI in certain scenarios of simulating as BF / GF when going out at it leading directly to costs (shopping, etc) -- but hey, if she's hot, cool, and genuinely friendly. I'd rather do that than pay $400 for a 2 hour sex visit with an upscale chick.

Upscale girls on sa are 500 minimum or so per meet LOL. If they do "pay per play" instead of monthly allowance. Normal looking ones anywhere from 200 to 300 depending on your looks and negotiating skills. But a meet is always at least 3-4 hrs so it's just a different thing altogether. I am intrigued about "secret benefits", I've been on sa for may years and talking with one girl slowly at a time on "secret benefits" sounds better than talking to hundreds girls at once because your membership expires in a month and you feel like you have to collect as many numbers as humanely possible to be able to burn thru them later.

[IrishGuy77]

Got the privilege of meeting her, and it was easy to setup. She responded back right away. Made me feel like a high schooler again because having fun in the car and not getting caught! Wow those boobs! And a nice booty! 30 minutes for 120 well worth it in my opinion. Benz she's a gem! Hoping to repeat soon.

[Benz1]

Autumn update, she has not responded to me today, I will let you know when her phone is working again.

[Charlie441]

About once a week we fit a date into our busy schedules.

I do not pay her extra for the actual 1 or 2 hour pure sex time. So this coming Friday it will cost me around $300-$400 for an all day date which will include a couple hours of fucking and sucking.

My number 2 lady is paid directly pay for play. We get together about once a week. $200 per session which could last up to 3 hours depending on our schedules. We also do lunch dates where we just talk and hang out and enjoy each other's company.

Okay, this makes more sense then. Basically higher-class, more time like a casual dating scenario because it's going to have some grounding to it -- but in the end, you get more Time spent for the $$, and quality sex-time for the $ than just about any high-class provider. It makes financial sense, especially when you find value in role-playing as a guy going out in general with her (related to shopping too of course). I don't find much ROI in certain scenarios of simulating as BF / GF when going out at it leading directly to costs (shopping, etc) -- but hey, if she's hot, cool, and genuinely friendly. I'd rather do that than pay $400 for a 2 hour sex visit with an upscale chick.

[Amaregraeco]

Guys,

There is much more to this class of provider than most of us realize at first. It takes a bit of money, and a lot of patience, persistence, and hard work. Most of the ladies are not even what we'd consider UTR. They do not see themselves as providers and are rather uncomfortable at the notion. I am a recent convert to this aspect of the Hobby, although not completely yet. I do not consider myself an expert. Tips and comments from Mike why and a couple others got me curious. General dissatisfaction with risk, yield and cost of regular hobby activities got me looking. There are a LOT of women who are dissatisfied, quasi-interested / curious at how to go about things, and who do not want to "advertise" out of concerns for privacy and perceived stigma. As others point out herein, it isn't just about the cash. It's also about whether you can connect, how you behave and carry yourself and are compatible. If you "click"? Aww hell, it can be a lot of fun!

For every one that advertises, she has a dozen or more acquaintances that do not and are on the fence, curious. It takes work, and ones patience and willingness to work with them, coax them, and satisfy them. If I were to hazard a guess there may be more unsatisfied women in search of something regular and safe with the right guy. The biggest untapped area here is college girls and their working, but disillusioned friends. If you stay informed and are fluent in the trends of social media, it can be one heck of a trip.

Be safe.

Something else worth mentioning here. SA / SB hobby activities are not for most. Yessir, NOT for most of us. Most hobbyists want their fun today, when the mood or urge hits. Waiting for your planned "rendezvous" to happen in a couple of days, or in a week or so may not be your cup of tea. If so, this isn't likely to be much fun. It takes a bit of time and trust before things progress to where an "as needed or requested" feature is available.

Kinda the reason I'm not fully a convert yet.

M. Yepthatsm, Your thoughts. In the ballpark here?

Others care to comment?

[Amaregraeco]

I agree. I am on S. A. And have three arrangements. The first gal is a single mom. I help her with groceries and a couple of small bills now and then. We meet bat her place twice a month for three hours of hot sex. The second one is a college age gal. She loves to suck cock. I buy her some of her books each semester. Other than that we meet onece a week for a great blowjob. The third gal is actually married. 29 years old and just wants sex at a hotel or the hot tubs twice a month. She is drop dead gorgeous. Diesntnwant to leave her husband or ruin her marriage. There is no charge at all fie this lady.

Guys,

There is much more to this class of provider than most of us realize at first. It takes a bit of money, and a lot of patience, persistence, and hard work. Most of the ladies are not even what we'd consider UTR. They do not see themselves as providers and are rather uncomfortable at the notion. I am a recent convert to this aspect of the Hobby, although not completely yet. I do not consider myself an expert. Tips and comments from Mike why and a couple others got me curious. General dissatisfaction with risk, yield and cost of regular hobby activities got me looking. There are a LOT of women who are dissatisfied, quasi-interested / curious at how to go about things, and who do not want to "advertise" out of concerns for privacy and perceived stigma. As others point out herein, it isn't just about the cash. It's also about whether you can connect, how you behave and carry yourself and are compatible. If you "click"? Aww hell, it can be a lot of fun!

For every one that advertises, she has a dozen or more acquaintances that do not and are on the fence, curious. It takes work, and ones patience and willingness to work with them, coax them, and satisfy them. If I were to hazard a guess there may be more unsatisfied women in search of something regular and safe with the right guy. The biggest untapped area here is college girls and their working, but disillusioned friends. If you stay informed and are fluent in the trends of social media, it can be one heck of a trip.

Be safe.

[Pete3854]

But I have peace of mind knowing who I am playing with. We all know the creepy feeling we get when we knock on a door and we don't know what or who is standing behind it. My ladies are real single moms who care about and love their kids. They have real full time jobs, they are not strung out mentally insane junkies looking for their next fix. They are just as horny as I am and they want sex with someone who they are at least somewhat attracted to and will treat them with dignity and respect and fuck their brains out. Its a win-win for both of us. It takes more time, more effort, and more money. But the long term return on investment on my part is well worth it IMHO.

I agree. I am on S. A. And have three arrangements. The first gal is a single mom. I help her with groceries and a couple of small bills now and then. We meet bat her place twice a month for three hours of hot sex. The second one is a college age gal. She loves to suck cock. I buy her some of her books each semester. Other than that we meet onece a week for a great blowjob. The third gal is actually married. 29 years old and just wants sex at a hotel or the hot tubs twice a month. She is drop dead gorgeous. Diesntnwant to leave her husband or ruin her marriage. There is no charge at all fie this lady.

[Blackfire]

But I have peace of mind knowing who I am playing with. We all know the creepy feeling we get when we knock on a door and we don't know what or who is standing behind it. My ladies are real single moms who care about and love their kids. They have real full time jobs, they are not strung out mentally insane junkies looking for their next fix. They are just as horny as I am and they want sex with someone who they are at least somewhat attracted to and will treat them with dignity and respect and fuck their brains out. Its a win-win for both of us. It takes more time, more effort, and more money. But the long term return on investment on my part is well worth it IMHO.

Thanks, that helps me understand a bit better. Sounds like a good option for a single guy who either can't get or doesn't want a "real" girlfriend and has quite a bit of cash to burn to still have the girlfriend experience, not just on a sexual level. There is a type of relationship available for every need these days.