Non Pro's

[PnwDood]

First time posting here and kinda new to the scene. Been trying to read through the threads and use the advice that's been given (thanks all!) but I've not been having any luck. I created a SA account, filled in most of the info including a carefully worded message basically saying 'pay for play'. The fact that that hasn't generated a flood of contacts isn't all that strange I guess as I probably need to massage the message some. What I do find strange is that I can't find anyone using their search. If I do a search with a large radius and no filters I get some hits, but most haven't been active in weeks or months (sorting by recent activity). If I use almost any filters at all I get nothing. The links that have been posted to profiles in these threads are also all closed profiles. Even links from posts just a few days old. So. Am I missing something? Have all the SA girls left the site and I just haven't went caught up with current events yet? Or does SA have some lock on searches if you're not a paying member? That seems unlikely as the best way to get a horn dog to pay is to show them who they could be messaging if they were a pay member. Seems like I'm just missing some setting in the search or something but there's really not much to the search tools to overlook tbh.

[Hairpie Dinner]

Hat's off for your sharing info, this is GOLD.

Been BB non-pro for years, they are by far more clean than usual (lots of divorced / ex-**** during college yrs).

I try to get one in every city I visit, so when I go I can stay at her place and have a good time.

The best feeling in this world is you fucking a young, hot, tight body (and V) that on BC and take balls deep full load.

40+ woman also pretty good, they are good in bed, and if not slightly dry but most I banged are in very good shape for a 40.

20 40 and stay away from the crazy. Be safe out there.

Woman don't understand, sex for men is like food, sometimes when you are too hungry (in this case, thirsty) you don't care about emotional connection..

Great Info and thanks for sharing. I assume its best to pay after the deed? Do they ask for it upfront or is it more subtle with SA's?

[Kisaku1218]

Thanks for all the sharing about SA. I have been on there for a couple of months and decided to share my observations.

1. I enjoy SA much more than TNA. Maybe it is the thrill of the hunt. I am swinging for the high hanging fruit.

2. Definitely I have found myself gravitating to the over 30. I am looking for the GFE and like when women know and enjoy the act.

3. Have a good profile and include a photo to draw them in, and include some private photos to swap for their private photos.

4. Unlike some posts I do not immediately go in for the "kill". I usually find something in their profile to ask about, or ask how their weekend was or like today ask if they are enjoying the change in weather. I chit chat for a few messages. Then I slowly steer the conversation by asking if they have met anyone from the site. Surprisingly many have not. Then I ask what type of arrangement they are seeking. From there I will ask them what they are comfortable with. At this point I know exactly what to expect from an upcoming date.

5. Typically I get some sort of response that they don't want to feel like a hooker or prostitute. I always reassure them they are not.

6. I usually use a carrot that I am trying to find a single lady to build a "relationship" with. I am in it for the long term.

7. Have a "sob" story about why you are on the site. Too busy raising my kid, work, and training to pursue traditional relationship. That way they are not looking down on you as some schmuck that can't date.

7 a. I spent the first month honing my responses to general question like: my introduction text, what are you seeking, and have you done this before. I steer the conversations towards questions I have prepared responses for.

8. I usually meet them in a public place of their choosing, then suggest we get a room if I am attracted to them. I never pay if nothing transpires.

9. Move on to the next one.

10. Again I seeking the non pros, and it amazing the stories they tell me about how they approached and turned off by guys treating the like hookers.

11. Every women over 30 I have contacted is definitely dtf, and most of the others are too.

12. Bareback is not my thing. However, almost all would have no problem with it. Even if they say must use a condom, they typically don't require it, or on the second "date" tell me I don't have to.

Again these are just my observations. Thanks to all who have given this community some much information.

These are just my observation.

Hat's off for your sharing info, this is GOLD.

Been BB non-pro for years, they are by far more clean than usual (lots of divorced / ex-**** during college yrs).

I try to get one in every city I visit, so when I go I can stay at her place and have a good time.

The best feeling in this world is you fucking a young, hot, tight body (and V) that on BC and take balls deep full load.

40+ woman also pretty good, they are good in bed, and if not slightly dry but most I banged are in very good shape for a 40.

20 40 and stay away from the crazy. Be safe out there.

Woman don't understand, sex for men is like food, sometimes when you are too hungry (in this case, thirsty) you don't care about emotional connection.

Then when we get enough sex (only for the time being, remind you) then we thought about the woman we want to spend our life with.

Sadly, most hot and young body I know had worst mental problem combination of this generation, been dating late 20 30 ish women now, they are calmer but also more calculated.

Once a while you going to encounter the early 20 but mature girl, she is not as crazy but love doggy and get plowed by you, I guess that is how she became my LTR.

Thank you.

[CautionItsWet]

Sugarplum Queen https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-aef8aecc96ea asks $400, will negotiate.

Bellababyy22 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...1-fcfbe17b1910 asks $300 or $400.

1 nightinParis https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-0e75941969ac unsure on allowance.

RandAseattle https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-7d68a2b06f8d Duo asking for $800, will negotiate.

AllAmericanGurl https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-da3ad64cc2d3 unsure on allowance.

Thanks a ton! I'm going to need to signup so I can finally view these profiles.

[AmbushBug]

Sugarplum Queen https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-aef8aecc96ea asks $400, will negotiate.

Bellababyy22 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...1-fcfbe17b1910 asks $300 or $400.

1 nightinParis https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-0e75941969ac unsure on allowance.

RandAseattle https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-7d68a2b06f8d Duo asking for $800, will negotiate.

AllAmericanGurl https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-da3ad64cc2d3 unsure on allowance.

[CpFabulous]

Trying to figure out hotels that I can get between ten and 3 up north around everett. Most of my sa girls I have line up don't have places and most hotels are check out noon and check in at 3. Thanks for all of the great info on the site got about twenty numbers in the last 3 weeks.

Yeap I've been on the same situation, my advice is find a motel (not a hotel) and just drive in and walk to the reception and tell them why do you have rooms available? Check in right now, will be checking out a little bit later today. They usually can accommodate a room that is already cleaned and will be occupied later. It has worked on some of the Aurora Motels.

[Sancrist]

Trying to figure out hotels that I can get between ten and 3 up north around everett. Most of my sa girls I have line up don't have places and most hotels are check out noon and check in at 3. Thanks for all of the great info on the site got about twenty numbers in the last 3 weeks.

[OveryYonder]

This is one that is here now that I met on SA. Cheaper than anyone on tna.

Bbfscip BBBJ. 200 $.

Recently divorced.

Is this em1919 or someone else?

[RWarNmsn69]

At the Time I posted it, the screen names were spelled exactly as they are / were on SA. Sugarrrblond I updated a few posts after with the corrected spelling and SweetJudy is now something like SweetJudy3 or something like that, although her original profile is still up too. If you can't find them using the SA search tool then they have taken their profile down.

In Router911's defense, links are much better because SA's search tool sucks! I've searched many times when I have the usernames exactly right and still won't find the profile. I’ve even used the wildcard character (“*”) and still can’t locate the profile.

Safe mongering and sugaring!

[Coolboarder78]

Links to profile would be cool if possible.

At the Time I posted it, the screen names were spelled exactly as they are / were on SA. Sugarrrblond I updated a few posts after with the corrected spelling and SweetJudy is now something like SweetJudy3 or something like that, although her original profile is still up too. If you can't find them using the SA search tool then they have taken their profile down.

[CpFabulous]

She started doing the same thing to me, first it was a let's meet in the middle of the woods (literally) after I told her no, she told me to get a room in Kirkland and that she would meet me there. After a messages I told her she was really pushy and was not interested in meeting and she went into a rant on how I was a little ***** and missing the best fuck of my life. I would stay as far away as possible.

peachypiesncream
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-1153b25cafcc

Can host in Marysville.

Normally I don't post contact information for SA girls unless they are also providers, but this one spams my phone every day asking to meet. And given how desperate she seems, I've never partake. If someone bangs her, please report back. Feel free to PM me for her phone number. Thanks!

[Router911]

Breanna206- 300 hung out about 2.5 hours, BBFS multi shots. Heaver that her pictures but total willingness to please. Said she was open to greek in our next meeting. Confirmed on BC, and was very clean, great kisser.

Unefilleenrose- 300 spent about 2 hours together, BBFS multi shots, bbgreek (even came with a plug in, which was fun to find). Again, bigger than her pictures show, but dirty has hell and very into it. VERY Slight smoke breath.

SylviaGold553- 300 for 2 hours, multi shots, no greek, Covered FS.

Sweetjudy. Haven't actually seen, older 42-45, clear conversation she is open to BBFS (can no longer have kids she said) and bbgreek, haven't discussed $ but seems open to a pretty low number. 1-2 per visit.

Sugarblond (or something like that), sorry I deleted the messages between us. Started with $600 for as long as I'd like, quickly came down to $400 for BBFS, probably would come down more, no greek. Haven't actually seen, went with unefilleenrose instead that night.

Others I've messaged with who are totally fine with "per visit" dates.

Nikki Duval.

Sugar QT.

MsKayla1998 (asks 3 per visit but seemed like she would jump at anything).

GreenEyedGabby.

Sugarbballie.

Sweetemily92.

Peachypiesncream.

Robo-kitty (asks 3-5 per).

Lillypad2015 (wants 500 per).

PennyLaneLove (asks 3-5 per).

Brittany206 (asks 200 half - 300 hour).

I'm finding that the women on SA are thicker than their pictures, great if you don't mind some chub. Are VERY open and are cool with staying, hanging, multi shots, etc. Seem more genuine than TNA girls. I need to work on my negotiation skills but where else can you get 2+ hours of BBFS for 3 bills.

For those looking to jump in, use works like "visit" instead of "date" or "Get together", for donation use "allowance", and if you are looking for a one time, use "per visit" that way they are not looking for a weekly or monthly "allowance". Be upfront, tell them you are a busy business man who travels a lot or a single dad, tell them you are just looking for some physical intimacy because you don't have time for traditional relationships. They eat the "single dad" shit up and it's easy to put them off when they message you looking for a visit to say "sorry I have my kids" or "my kid has baseball or whatever" .

Links to profile would be cool if possible.

[CletePurcell]

Cash and a burner phone are IMO the only way to go. You could use a prepaid card but why bother since you would want to pay cash for that anyway. Any card or non cash transaction will leave a paper trail which you don't want.

If you need a room I suggest that unless you need the room to stay in before or after have the girl get the room and you can pay her cash for it. Once again registering for the room leaves a paper trail. I never would want any record of calls or hotel rooms or anything else.

Stay safe.

I usually have a room as I monger while out of town on business so I may not be up to speed, but I think most hotels insist on a card for "incidentals", especially if there is a mini bar. Prepaid cards are easy to use, make sure you get an actual prepaid card and not a refillable card which leaves a paper trail. The only drawback to prepaid is getting rid of the small balance left after you run the card down. The banks make millions off of those small pocket change balances left on cards which are tossed.

[Loven Life]

Thanks for all the sharing about SA. I have been on there for a couple of months and decided to share my observations.

1. I enjoy SA much more than TNA. Maybe it is the thrill of the hunt. I am swinging for the high hanging fruit.

2. Definitely I have found myself gravitating to the over 30. I am looking for the GFE and like when women know and enjoy the act.

3. Have a good profile and include a photo to draw them in, and include some private photos to swap for their private photos.

4. Unlike some posts I do not immediately go in for the "kill". I usually find something in their profile to ask about, or ask how their weekend was or like today ask if they are enjoying the change in weather. I chit chat for a few messages. Then I slowly steer the conversation by asking if they have met anyone from the site. Surprisingly many have not. Then I ask what type of arrangement they are seeking. From there I will ask them what they are comfortable with. At this point I know exactly what to expect from an upcoming date.

5. Typically I get some sort of response that they don't want to feel like a hooker or prostitute. I always reassure them they are not.

6. I usually use a carrot that I am trying to find a single lady to build a "relationship" with. I am in it for the long term.

7. Have a "sob" story about why you are on the site. Too busy raising my kid, work, and training to pursue traditional relationship. That way they are not looking down on you as some schmuck that can't date.

7 a. I spent the first month honing my responses to general question like: my introduction text, what are you seeking, and have you done this before. I steer the conversations towards questions I have prepared responses for.

8. I usually meet them in a public place of their choosing, then suggest we get a room if I am attracted to them. I never pay if nothing transpires.

9. Move on to the next one.

10. Again I seeking the non pros, and it amazing the stories they tell me about how they approached and turned off by guys treating the like hookers.

11. Every women over 30 I have contacted is definitely dtf, and most of the others are to.

12. Bareback is not my thing. However, almost all would have no problem with it. Even if they say must use a condom, they typically don't require it, or on the second "date" tell me I don't have to.

Again these are just my observations. Thanks to all who have given this community some much information.

These are just my observation.

[CautionItsWet]

I been bbing this cute young blonde and when talking to her about a gb. I assume some of you would be interested.

I'm assuming a generous amount of us are interested.