"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Bigsqueeze]

I'm just passing on a good thing someone from the Virginia bunch worked up one day. Hop to their Virginia Board search these post# and go straight to the topic. Enjoy.

05-19-15 23:46 #9200.

USA SB Thread Highlights Part 2 - Contacting and Profiles.

Posts on how to handle contacting girls, setting up profiles, and handling initial negotiations. Note that these are in the order I found them, not chronological order:

John G Smith post #2285: red / green / pro flags in profiles.

F Scott post #2288: more red flags.

GuyWoodson post #1687: general SA guidelines / approach.

John G Smith post #1898: getting additional info via FB profiles, and unequal identity concerns.

HollywoodGuy post #2088: First version of his stock contact message.

John G Smith post #2233: screening guidelines and approaches.

HollywoodGuy post #2246: direct approach and what girls want.

John G Smith post #2250: caution with message wording.

SubCmdr post #2409: blunt approach to intentions.

Obx Fun post #15: general approach.

ThudPucker post #24: honesty in intentions.

Literal2 post #75: filtering time wasters.

Literal2 post #233: general approach.

Literal2 post #294: more approaches.

F Scott post #300: thoughts after posting a fake SB profile.

BigTigger post #405: approach for using the AM site.

Literal2 post #914: getting an agreement.

Coolhand2 post #918: first-time meetings right at the FC.

F Scott post #941: contact using words from their profile.

HollywoodGuy post #3320: approaching sugar as a salesperson.

HollywoodGuy post #4222: looking for a "friendly handshake" on the sale.

Revvo post #4711: adjusting your approach to match their expectations.

F Scott post #5015: polishing your profile and first message.

Revvo post #5116: being patient with an "abundance mentality".

Pats Fan1 post #5340: confidence and contacts.

UKnowWho post #5583: avoid "spoiled" and "pampered".

John G Smith post #5997: asking for pics to help filter prospects.

JeezLizard post #6101: organizing and tracking prospects.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6189: filtering and contacting approach.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6395: mentioning sugar and handling expectations.

FredMoore post #6396: making expectations clear.

John G Smith post #6397: caution with negotiating money.

FotoGuy1970 post #6693: answers to approach questions.

HollywoodGuy post #6956: Second version of his stock contact message.

ThirdCoaster post #6974: consistency between profile and message.

F Scott post #7787: quickly contacting new additions to the site.

JeezLizard post #8243: explanation for girls saying "I won't do. " in their profiles.

HollywoodGuy post #8252: Third version of his 5 Steps message.

HollywoodGuy post #8296: templates for mentioning donations.

HollywoodGuy post #8850: selectiveness and negotiating.

HollywoodGuy post #8978: Responding to a GPS request.

[Grizzly383]

I am sooo glad the this is active now.

Can I make a request to you folks? Can we try avoid posting our "success stories"? I get it that you had a great time but it doesn't help other brothers here.

What I propose is:

1) We make posts about HOW it was a success. Share some insights about your ways of approach and game.

2) Share your failures and bad experiences, so the stronger players can give advice.

3) Rants?

Just my thoughts, everyone is not going to agree with me so feel free to add new points to this list.

Play strong!

[Airmantroy]

If you run across a scammer, or a chick who is just trying to screw us out of money in some shape form or fashion. Post a link to her profile so we can avoid her ass. Hell if you come across some chick who drained your balls and you want to share, post a link to her too. LOL.

[Readytogetonit]

It's drinking from a firehose. I've been reading that forum on and off for months, never quite happy that I had enough information to pull the trigger.

Then I ready this forum's 180 ish posts in an afternoon, and I was off to the races. Just had BBFS for lunch after feeding a hungry SB a 10 piece wing combo with fries and a drink.

I am interested in reading more. What is the Virginia forum you are referring to here?

[Readytogetonit]

I for one, am NEVER going back. I've been trying to crack the code in the USA on what ISG guys call "non-pros". This is the USA version of that key.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...-Index-and-FAQ

I am not going to lie. It is a lot of work, but if you are decent looking and willing to invest some time then you won't go back to escorts.

Enjoy!

[Readytogetonit]

There are a few such posts like this (IN THIS FORUM!) that should be stickied, and this forum is fairly young by comparison to the VA folks.

And this thread getting some posts.

Couple of random thoughts (mostly in response to a number of the comments -- these apply across sites generally speaking):

Have a process. It's a numbers game. If you're a sales guy or at some point worked in sales it's the same thing (even if you're "buying" Your objective is to as efficiently as possible "qualify" as many of these "prospects" as efficiently as possible. Verify they are real. Find out what they are looking for. Meet them. Have a plan for where to go with the ones you like. Control your process. Tell them where you want the initial meeting to be. Your communications with them should as suggest the next step or action you want them to take.

Move from system messages or emails to texts as soon as you verify they aren't a spambot (& they have the same comfort with you). Goes without saying have a burner number for this purpose).

Voice verify before meeting anyone. You get a lot out of a voice and can gauge chemistry. Also not perfect but a lot fewer will no show after you've actually talked.

Don't completely rearrange your schedule around any of them you've never met before. A bunch of them will flake or things won't work out. This is also why you control the initial meeting spot. Make it convenient for you.

Try to identify their expectations before meeting. Doesn't need to be specific but eliminate the ones outside your budget.

Don't commit to anything until you actually meet her.

Set an expectation that if you like each other you want to move to a playtime location (unless you are actually fine with courting them. In not).

Always meet in a public place. Coffee shop or bar are great for this. Be wary of anyone that wants an initial meeting place at their residence (reflag for lack of mobility and true desperation). Also just plain awkward when you want to take a pass.

No what you bring to the table. Just a wallet or are you also younger or in good shape? Play it accordingly. Some really don't care about looks. Some really do. A good indicator here.

Be a nice guy. That doesn't mean be a simp but actually being nice goes along way. A big reason why the ones that aren't just interested ina wallet are playing here is guys her age are dicks.

On the topic of pics. Send her real ones. No point in misrepresenting and wasting your time. For security don't use the same ones you have all over the Internet on social media. By the same token, run reverse searches on her pics. Amazing what you'll find.

Don't fall in love. All good things end & there are plenty of them out there. Just your spidey senses. Be okay saying no even if it means going home and rubbing one out.

[TooNiceTommy]

My turn to chime in, thanks to those that recommended SA!

My experience, I am a 50+ married man so looking for discretion. I am at least 1. 5 hrs from Atlanta so not as many to choose from.

Looking for 26-35 year old that can provide good / great sex. Not just a pump and done since I get all I want at home but basic stuff. Looking to meet 2 times a month.

First, did a M&G with a skinny possible ex druggy, not currently. Nice lady with bills and no baby daddy. Gave her $$ to help her out but do not plan to go further.

Second, everything same as first but had a little more fun. Basic so do not plan to return.

Third, separated woman with kids and no help. $$ and had a great time. 5+ O's from her which I love. Couple from me. She was nervous so had to start slow but after she got started, WOW. Set up a monthly thing so I am done looking. At least for the next few months.

I get pings from 18-23 year old girls but I just do not want that young. Easy to find girls as others have said. Totally different environment than BP girls.

SA cost a little up front, but well worth it. I did all the above in less than 2 weeks and have numbers from 4-5 other girls. If I wanted young I think I would have 20+ numbers.

Best of luck out there, be careful.

[Grizzly383]

I am interested in reading more. What is the Virginia forum you are referring to here?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...-Index-and-FAQ

I am not going to lie. It is a lot of work, but if you are decent looking and willing to invest some time then you won't go back to escorts.

Enjoy!

[Novalimber2]

Just realized a way I can help out some guys with SA. I'm a big bargain shopper, so my price threshhold is pretty low. Which means I end up talking to some absolute gems that I then can't take advantage of. If you let me know what you're looking for (DM me), I'll shoot you referrals as that happens. Tell me race, body type, and if there's anything else specific that you're looking for. Plus, most importantly, budget. Would love to help some fellow board members out.

Jay clear your inbox.

[TravelinSD]

There are quite a few anonymous phone apps out there where you get a number that is not attached to your real number in any way. You pay for texts and minutes talking, but it isn't too expensive. I personally use an app called Hush. I'm single and I still send them to my Hush number first. Once I've met them or the turn out to not be BSC, I move them to my regular text.

I hope this helps.

Good Hunting!

Travelin.

I've had a few gals on SA offer to send pictures or want me to text them.

As I am not giving out my number to anyone initially and, I don't have a burner, I have replied with an email address.

It seems it falls on deaf ears so far.

I figure there is something to them wanting to text or wanting my number. I am usually sceptical about that.

Why would they want to send pictures to a number but not to an email addy? Does the message system block email addresses?

I will be getting a burner soon. I just have to re-read some of the information here to learn What is the better method.

TIA.

[StrockInBizkit]

I hit Sky up for digits on one of his..
...You could spend 6 months reading the Virginia forum, or you can just read the 180'ish posts on here, and be ready to go by tonight!

I am interested in reading more. What is the Virginia forum you are referring to here?

[Manzanito]

Just realized a way I can help out some guys with SA. I'm a big bargain shopper, so my price threshhold is pretty low. Which means I end up talking to some absolute gems that I then can't take advantage of. If you let me know what you're looking for (DM me), I'll shoot you referrals as that happens. Tell me race, body type, and if there's anything else specific that you're looking for. Plus, most importantly, budget. Would love to help some fellow board members out.

Thanks for your offer to help. Shows your Inbox is full.

[Steak 404]

Sorry about all the typos. Combination of trying to do this on a phone and this site's wonderfully "helpful" autocorrect feature. Hopefully you can figure out the intent.

One other suggestion is early on when talking about her expectations ask her about her experiences with "arrangements" before. Not just the amount but what did she like / not like? Why? Very helpful way to get a read on her and what she's looking for.

Also for the ones that admit to being relatively green a good chance to proactively dispell the myths about how big the money is and how glamorous it really is. 99% of them aren't kept women getting five figure allowances (they call those wives in Buckhead) like you see on TV.

[Steak 404]

And this thread getting some posts.

Couple of random thoughts (mostly in response to a number of the comments -- these apply across sites generally speaking):

Have a process. It's a numbers game. If you're a sales guy or at some point worked in sales it's the same thing (even if you're "buying" Your objective is to as efficiently as possible "qualify" as many of these "prospects" as efficiently as possible. Verify they are real. Find out what they are looking for. Meet them. Have a plan for where to go with the ones you like. Control your process. Tell them where you want the initial meeting to be. Your communications with them should as suggest the next step or action you want them to take.

Move from system messages or emails to texts as soon as you verify they aren't a spambot (& they have the same comfort with you). Goes without saying have a burner number for this purpose).

Voice verify before meeting anyone. You get a lot out of a voice and can gauge chemistry. Also not perfect but a lot fewer will no show after you've actually talked.

Don't completely rearrange your schedule around any of them you've never met before. A bunch of them will flake or things won't work out. This is also why you control the initial meeting spot. Make it convenient for you.

Try to identify their expectations before meeting. Doesn't need to be specific but eliminate the ones outside your budget.

Don't commit to anything until you actually meet her.

Set an expectation that if you like each other you want to move to a playtime location (unless you are actually fine with courting them. In not).

Always meet in a public place. Coffee shop or bar are great for this. Be wary of anyone that wants an initial meeting place at their residence (reflag for lack of mobility and true desperation). Also just plain awkward when you want to take a pass.

No what you bring to the table. Just a wallet or are you also younger or in good shape? Play it accordingly. Some really don't care about looks. Some really do. A good indicator here.

Be a nice guy. That doesn't mean be a simp but actually being nice goes along way. A big reason why the ones that aren't just interested ina wallet are playing here is guys her age are dicks.

On the topic of pics. Send her real ones. No point in misrepresenting and wasting your time. For security don't use the same ones you have all over the Internet on social media. By the same token, run reverse searches on her pics. Amazing what you'll find.

Don't fall in love. All good things end & there are plenty of them out there. Just your spidey senses. Be okay saying no even if it means going home and rubbing one out.

[Vega Wrap]

If it's Sensualkitty and a friend that's close to her in looks, then they are definitely pretty, but how about the skill level? Are they more talented. More open menu?

Talking looks. I've had reenee and I've had sensual kitty within a week of each other. Looks wise reenee wasnt that special imo.