"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[MoonshineXXX]

Ok. Took Sky's advice recently and joined up. Damn. Just damn.

I've found myself having to cull opportunities I would have otherwise been dreaming about.

I wrote a good profile and it's been the attention getter. I've been patient and chatty and respectful which is appealing.

So far, a nursery school teacher who sidelines as a limitless nympho and a McDonald's manager / slash student who calls herself my Queen.

Those are just the two I'VE selected.

I have 10 more on the stringer for later.

I wholeheartedly recommend.

Thank you SHB.

[SkyHighBuilder]

SkyHigh, I'm not implying at all that you work for them, so take this in jest. You deserve a commission from SA, as I'm sure your exploits have encouraged a lot of mongers to test or re-test the waters there.

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HAHAHA, Thanks for the acknowledgment Onyx, I'm having a blast with SA and the quality of the experience is way above any BP / CL chick. I love the thrill of the hunt and the perfection of the time spent with the ones I ultimately do go see. Many get weeded out during the "Courtship" period and that's the way I want it. I have a perfect scenario in mind for each experience and I have full control over that through this medium.

It's like the old days, me in my WING style haircut, polyester slacks, 3 button cuff puffy sleeve Rayon shirts, dancing to the BeeGee's and Steely Dan at the Mad Hatter on Wednesday nights for penny beer and 25 cent mixes drinks, talking shit to all the chicks and dragging some drunk hottie out of there to debauch her in her own place, wide my dick on her sheets and go home in the morning, LOL.

[OnyxRain]

SkyHigh, I'm not implying at all that you work for them, so take this in jest. You deserve a commission from SA, as I'm sure your exploits have encouraged a lot of mongers to test or re-test the waters there.

Airman your post was spot on. Great advice!

I would add a couple of things to those just getting into SA:

First, you need to upgrade. You'll never get anywhere with these girls if they think you are too cheap to pay the price of admission there first. Plus, you can't read or respond to messages without a premium account.

It's a bit of a game so you need to be on the hunt. Don't fall for the 20 something bimbos contacting you. They are all full of crap and have GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome). Shoot in the late 20's and up.

You need to coax them out. You are both essentially looking for the same thing but these aren't BP hoes so they don't know the lingo and don't want to come right out and say they want $$ for sex. I've even gotten some for free on here with the right attitude but don't expect it. Most of these girls are BB types cause they are used to BF's or significant others in their lives so don't make a big deal out of it and it won't even come up. Some are real, sexually pent up wildcats! They've been in vanilla sex but want to come out of their shells. I've even had you tell me that she needed me to help her come out of her shell and experience the wilder stuff she craves but has never had anyone to get there with her. Many are internally submissive and want a strong hand, these you need to identify and play to that with strength but don't overplay your hand too early or it will backfire.

This is like CHESS, a game of skill! Have fun and hone your skills well for this one!

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[OnyxRain]

Thanks Bud. Appreciate the insight. I have a couple in play right now. One is very young and asked me outright "how much I'm trying to spend". I tried to avoid the question as I wasn't sure of the site rules but eventually wrote 1 0 0 roses. She obviously had no idea what I was talking about because she asked me again. A part of me felt relieved that she didn't know what I was talking about because it meant she might not be a pro. But, I found that to be a little too direct, as we exchanged all of 2-3 messages by that point.

I'll keep you guys posted.

I ignore 99% of the "lifestyle expectation" crap. Those chicks have no clue what that means and just select something.

Some of them are pretty blunt and will basically say pay for play, obviously they can't use those exact words.

Price ranges from a low of $150 up to a high of $400 per meet no clock, and generally no rules. You can't discuss specific acts via the chat feature, move them to text as quick as possible and try and coax a menu out of them without asking if they do greek or BBBJ, these girls usually have no idea what that means any way. Being discreet and respectful goes a long ways.

I have my own place and I'm single, however I have found several that can host, just ask after you chat with them or when you meet them in public.

This game is time consuming, to find that diamond you have to move a lot of dirt. I have had 1 or 2 that were willing to meet immediately, but it usually takes a day of time management to arrange everything.

Never put Pay for Play in your profile, use "friends with benefits" or "no strings attached" maybe mention "quality time" or intimate encounters. Never mention a specific amount of time EVER. Be vague. Several hours, a few times a month as schedules allow, something along those lines.

[George GA]

Airman your post was spot on. Great advice!

Sky High: sent you another PM, but your box is full. Good info!

[SkyHighBuilder]

Airman your post was spot on. Great advice!

I would add a couple of things to those just getting into SA:

First, you need to upgrade. You'll never get anywhere with these girls if they think you are too cheap to pay the price of admission there first. Plus, you can't read or respond to messages without a premium account.

It's a bit of a game so you need to be on the hunt. Don't fall for the 20 something bimbos contacting you. They are all full of crap and have GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome). Shoot in the late 20's and up.

You need to coax them out. You are both essentially looking for the same thing but these aren't BP hoes so they don't know the lingo and don't want to come right out and say they want $$ for sex. I've even gotten some for free on here with the right attitude but don't expect it. Most of these girls are BB types cause they are used to BF's or significant others in their lives so don't make a big deal out of it and it won't even come up. Some are real, sexually pent up wildcats! They've been in vanilla sex but want to come out of their shells. I've even had you tell me that she needed me to help her come out of her shell and experience the wilder stuff she craves but has never had anyone to get there with her. Many are internally submissive and want a strong hand, these you need to identify and play to that with strength but don't overplay your hand too early or it will backfire.

This is like CHESS, a game of skill! Have fun and hone your skills well for this one!

[Airmantroy]

Hey Guys, I just re-joined SA and was wondering if you ignore the ones that have expectations in their profile higher than what you're willing to do. For instance, I'm only able to do Negotiable or Minimal. Does it make sense to look at the others like Moderate and Practical, etc? Or is it a waste of both my and the young lady's time?

I'm also curious as to how closely the ideals they espouse in their profiles correlate with what they'd actually be willing to accept.

I ignore 99% of the "lifestyle expectation" crap. Those chicks have no clue what that means and just select something.

Some of them are pretty blunt and will basically say pay for play, obviously they can't use those exact words.

I'm considering giving SA another try and wanted to see if there are any specific recommendations?

I tried it in the past and had WAY more flakes than actual connections and it was VERY time consuming. I lost track of how many girls would setup a meet and then go complete radio silence and generally block me before I even got back home from the attempted meet. I also found it really hard to find someone that could host since paying for a meet and a room puts the expense higher than the price of a lot of well reviewed pros.

So my questions are:

What are you finding is your price range for a successful meet? Meaning, what is your low and high number for getting what you want?

Are you paying for a room or have you been able to find girls that can host?

How much time are you having to spend to actually find someone willing to meet?

How open are you in your profile that you are looking for Pay 2 play?

Thanks for the insight.

Price ranges from a low of $150 up to a high of $400 per meet no clock, and generally no rules. You can't discuss specific acts via the chat feature, move them to text as quick as possible and try and coax a menu out of them without asking if they do greek or BBBJ, these girls usually have no idea what that means any way. Being discreet and respectful goes a long ways.

I have my own place and I'm single, however I have found several that can host, just ask after you chat with them or when you meet them in public.

This game is time consuming, to find that diamond you have to move a lot of dirt. I have had 1 or 2 that were willing to meet immediately, but it usually takes a day of time management to arrange everything.

Never put Pay for Play in your profile, use "friends with benefits" or "no strings attached" maybe mention "quality time" or intimate encounters. Never mention a specific amount of time EVER. Be vague. Several hours, a few times a month as schedules allow, something along those lines.

[2me4Looking2]

I'm considering giving SA another try and wanted to see if there are any specific recommendations?

I tried it in the past and had WAY more flakes than actual connections and it was VERY time consuming. I lost track of how many girls would setup a meet and then go complete radio silence and generally block me before I even got back home from the attempted meet. I also found it really hard to find someone that could host since paying for a meet and a room puts the expense higher than the price of a lot of well reviewed pros.

So my questions are:

What are you finding is your price range for a successful meet? Meaning, what is your low and high number for getting what you want?

Are you paying for a room or have you been able to find girls that can host?

How much time are you having to spend to actually find someone willing to meet?

How open are you in your profile that you are looking for Pay 2 play?

Thanks for the insight.

[OnyxRain]

Hey Guys, I just re-joined SA and was wondering if you ignore the ones that have expectations in their profile higher than what you're willing to do. For instance, I'm only able to do Negotiable or Minimal. Does it make sense to look at the others like Moderate and Practical, etc? Or is it a waste of both my and the young lady's time?

I'm also curious as to how closely the ideals they espouse in their profiles correlate with what they'd actually be willing to accept.

[SkyHighBuilder]

Anyone know how well SA fares in other cities? Could be a fun additional tool when you travel.

Actually I do, I don't travel often but in a couple of weeks I'm going to Texas and on the way back I'm stopping over night at a casino. I've made connections with someone at me destination and in the town where the casino is. The casino babe is staying overnight for 200 and some casino play at the slots (which I get free)))). I use 50 mile radius from the city or zip I will be in and have found it to be just a reliable as here in a bigger metro area. The Casino is in a smaller town!

[Vega Wrap]

Why would you do that? Thats beyond pro rates, there are plenty of 20 yr old blondes on SA who'll see you with their girlfriends for $200 each for multiple hours. Hope you negotiated that rate down significantly.

Do you have contact for any such SB? Please PM if you are willing to share. I'm looking for 18-22. Thanks. Will return the favor for what I find.

[Vega Wrap]

Why would you do that? Thats beyond pro rates, there are plenty of 20 yr old blondes on SA who'll see you with their girlfriends for $200 each for multiple hours. Hope you negotiated that rate down significantly.

These two were hotter than most. I still didn't do it though.

Arranged a deal with two other hot SBs for 450 for both, but had to bail at the last minute. Whole situation smelled. Got close to show time and felt like a switch, a set up a rob, or at least a BP quality pro pretending to be college utr.

Promised a lot. Refused to video chat. Insisted on using her place. Refused to meet me somewhere public first, or even meet me at the door. Took a cruise by the neighborhood and saw all kinds of lookout types loitering near the door.

Trusted my instincts and bailed.

Another one was an obvious pro pretending too. Selfie was less attractive than profile and some obvious gang tatts.

[Dastranger]

Anyone know how well SA fares in other cities? Could be a fun additional tool when you travel.

[Airmantroy]

F it. Going to have to TOFTT on this one.

Will review later.

Why would you do that? Thats beyond pro rates, there are plenty of 20 yr old blondes on SA who'll see you with their girlfriends for $200 each for multiple hours. Hope you negotiated that rate down significantly.

[SkyHighBuilder]

Hey guys,

So as I thought these past few posts have created quite a storm of PM's for info, digits and other questions so I thought I could handle a bunch of them here and go back and plow through the PM's after.

{I saw a couple of post about hitting the "Report" button. I've never done it but had it happen to me a couple of times and had my acct locked out for a day or two. You have to say things in a way that clearly indicates what youa re looking for but you can't come right out and ask "Hey baby, how much for a blowjob" LOL. It will get your acct deleted and no money will be returned. This is a game of wills and I love the stalking as much as the catching. Once something is established I quickly move to texting (I use an app that keeps them out of my normal Messenger). This is for a couple of reasons. I want to move the conversation inot a more sexual area without the being blocked thing happening and I want to start a pic exchange that you can't do online. I can fill this in more later.

1st: I have pics of some but am too stupid to figure out how to put them up, LOL. Not all girls will allow them, as many of you know, even while having a session. And that goes double for SA girls. The ones I pick did not start out as pros and aren't the SW or BP / CL high volume types. They are sweet, Girl next Door types that are on hard times and have a commodity that they are willing to offer up under certain conditions. As with anything, those conditions vary but have some commonality. For the most part they are GFE, they are clean and fresh, they are generally in their 30's or close to it, they are one a day types (with some exceptions), they are very appreciative & they are playful.

2nd: I don't post a lot so if I put one up she is, in my opinion, tops! I'm willing to go up to $$ for an hour IF she proves to be that playful little kitten and proves that once we meet it will be a great time. So most of these that I put up are in that category. That's $-1/2 - $$ for an hour or so. I have never had one of these tell me my time was up. They don't even look at it at all. Many of my sessions go to 2 hrs for the one gift.

3rd: I am not really able to access this site at work. I can use my phone but the site is not optimized for mobile and it's a pain in the ass. If I get in the middle of sending one of you a pm relpy and someone walks in the site will reset and I'll have to repeat the whole login process and start the reply over so I'm tryint to get to everyone but it doesn't always work out that way.

4th: I don't like saying how much I gave a girl for a couple of reasons. I don't want to be seen in any way as pimping them. This NOT being like BP or others, situations can change for them daily and what I do may not be waht you do. I like longer sessions and tend to meet at their place if possible or I get a room. If I get a room I intend to see 2. One that day and one early the next morning before checkout time so I maximize my expenditure. And finally, because mine has been diligently negociated so I may be substantialy below what she is askig overall.

Finally: All of the ones I am putting up here are full on BB everything!!!

I will answer any questions but the general ones I'd rather be asked and answer in an open forum and not in a PM so I can respond to the whole.

Happy hunting guys!

ADMIN: can you guys make this a better mobile option?