Sugar Baby

[HummerJo]

Hi all. I'm new to this forum, but fin it extremely helpful. I travel extensively on business, and find myself in Orlando frequently for fun as well.

Some in Orlando have been goo, others flakes. One I allowed to string me along an irritate me is Angelababy. She has two profiles, and changed her name twice as well:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...8-959f64c2d1c9

First she wouldn't text, but would only use Whatsapp. After cancelling on me, and told me busy with work each day, then she told me she was with her parents for 10 days, and could not text or talk or send pics. Then wanted $300 for "tuition". Then said she wouldn't allow intimacy, nude or "risque" pics, nor video chat before meeting, but then wants money before meeting. When asked to send some pics of herself so I could see if it was actually her an not a scam, she always replied "I can't I'm with family", even at midnight. Then asked for money again, and says she gets "$30 for pics, $60 for risque pics". I've never had to jump through so many hoops, only to get told no every time I ask for something. I'm sensing some mental issues, so all should stay away.

[HummerJo]

I met her months ago and I wasn't very impressed. She's not as attractive as her pictures and she thinks she's hot shit so to speak. I'd consider her to be the low rent type and her personality is the most negative of any person I've ever met in my entire life. She's very hard to be around as a result and her skill set isn't very good. Just my 0. 02.

Hey, thanks for this. Have been trying to meet up with her, but keeps flaking. Now I won't waste anymore time. Cheers!

[Ricky James1]

With a BP girl with a pimp at a hotel I agree that most likely you just pay and be done with it. But not when it is just you and the girl and nobody else around like in this case.

Only a pro hooker carries around baby wipes. That's a real thing. Had a pro clean me up with them once.

While I commend your tough stance on what you agreed to, I'd definitely exercise caution. A girl like that could have a pimp or a boyfriend pimping her out, and those punks will not be happy you shorted their girl despite fucking her and getting a BJ. Sometimes the flakiness and sketchiness is the cost of doing business and fighting it is not worth having some douchbag with a gun coming after you and your money.

Just my. 02.

[Ricky James1]

SA should be cheaper than escorts or BP. That is the whole point of it. 2 or 3 hours of fun for what an escort would charge for 1 hour or less.

120 for 2 hours is quite low. That is backpage money. I go 250 to 300 but get all night. You pay backpage money you get backpage girls.

[ExEccieGuy]

This person (who knows if it is female or male) is a freak. She has changed names but her M. O. Is still the same.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...a-b4c1aa223ba4

EEG.

[PhGolfer69]

Starting to lay my groundwork for an October business to to Orlando. I don't expect you guys to give up your favorites, but I would take any advice on local Orlando girls that would enhance my trip.

My typical travel "date" is a public meeting at a bar, nice dinner and fun afterwards. Back to a hotel room for the real fun of the night.

Any advice would be awesome on SA girls that are sexy and fun would be appreciated. Sorting out the fakes and crazies is exhausting.

[CoolPerson73]

There are TONS of gamers / scammers. A few you can politely chat with and say you won't give $ upfront, but you'll do X if you meet up. There are plenty that just want to be platonic friends. I firmly explain myself and move on if they aren't what I want. It's more work than BP or other stuff, and there are DIFFERENT scams here, but I'm finding it cheaper and far better on SA in general.

My SA tips:

1. Figure out what you want and be mostly clear on it. Sex with random girls? Sex for cheap? Beautiful girls? 2 main girls to trade off? Etc.

2. Message girls nicely, start slow, then go into a bit of detail 3/4 messages in or so. Though gauge it. I still lose some good ones if I explain too much too soon.

3. Message a ton of girls just a little bit, but much more than "hey".

4. Spend little effort on those saying "hey" but don't completely give them up, there are some gems in some stupid approaches.

5. Stop wasting time on time wasters. If they do $ for pics and are only online, fuck that. Want 500/ meet and look like Rosanne? Fuck that. But be open to paying more if she looks like taylor swift for 500 vs a normal 300 haha.

6. Make your own rules only using what works from here. Remember that this is all random guys one click down from a guy bragging about wanting to do all the streetwalkers out there with no teeth for $20. You can come up with all the help and rules you want, but I can't teach someone who likes catching STDs to have class. (Will I get banned again for saying that?

Thanks for the tips. I'll give it a go.

[Ajfff]

She was polite, but she kelp sending me a link to a app to send the money. I was looking for a gem on SA, but it seems like it's a lot of gamers on here.

There are TONS of gamers / scammers. A few you can politely chat with and say you won't give $ upfront, but you'll do X if you meet up. There are plenty that just want to be platonic friends. I firmly explain myself and move on if they aren't what I want. It's more work than BP or other stuff, and there are DIFFERENT scams here, but I'm finding it cheaper and far better on SA in general.

My SA tips:

1. Figure out what you want and be mostly clear on it. Sex with random girls? Sex for cheap? Beautiful girls? 2 main girls to trade off? Etc.

2. Message girls nicely, start slow, then go into a bit of detail 3/4 messages in or so. Though gauge it. I still lose some good ones if I explain too much too soon.

3. Message a ton of girls just a little bit, but much more than "hey".

4. Spend little effort on those saying "hey" but don't completely give them up, there are some gems in some stupid approaches.

5. Stop wasting time on time wasters. If they do $ for pics and are only online, fuck that. Want 500/ meet and look like Rosanne? Fuck that. But be open to paying more if she looks like taylor swift for 500 vs a normal 300 haha.

6. Make your own rules only using what works from here. Remember that this is all random guys one click down from a guy bragging about wanting to do all the streetwalkers out there with no teeth for $20. You can come up with all the help and rules you want, but I can't teach someone who likes catching STDs to have class. (Will I get banned again for saying that?

[CoolPerson73]

She told me she only needed $1,300. I guess she came up with the $300 in between messaging you and then me. I told her politely that I don't give money to people I don't know and have never met. She didn't get mad and continued to chat with me. I noticed that she hasn't logged back in since Thursday. Which was the day she told me she would be evicted. So who knows.

She was polite, but she kelp sending me a link to a app to send the money. I was looking for a gem on SA, but it seems like it's a lot of gamers on here.

[Quenton]

She told me she only needed $1,300. I guess she came up with the $300 in between messaging you and then me. I told her politely that I don't give money to people I don't know and have never met. She didn't get mad and continued to chat with me. I noticed that she hasn't logged back in since Thursday. Which was the day she told me she would be evicted. So who knows.

I decided to join SA while in the Orlando area, and I guess I don't know what I'm doing, because all I found was overpriced or scammers. Ashley99 seemed promising so I was going to meet up with her this week when I came back in town, but all of a sudden she started texting saying she was going to be evicted and could I send her $1600.00 asap. Now, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night LOL, I'm going to have to pass on her I only have 8 day on my subscription after that I'm throwing in the towel.

[SA2222]

I had a date today and had to "stick to my guns".

Only a pro hooker carries around baby wipes. That's a real thing. Had a pro clean me up with them once.

While I commend your tough stance on what you agreed to, I'd definitely exercise caution. A girl like that could have a pimp or a boyfriend pimping her out, and those punks will not be happy you shorted their girl despite fucking her and getting a BJ. Sometimes the flakiness and sketchiness is the cost of doing business and fighting it is not worth having some douchbag with a gun coming after you and your money.

Just my. 02.

[JohnDagger]

But when you low ball a girl WTF do you expect. SA that want to get paid by the hour I just avoid. There are good ones that will spend a whole weekend for 400 Rabbits. It is all about the approach, and I never pay upfront. Act like a trick get treated like one.

I agree that the comparisons don't work, and it's definitely different rates all over the country / world. But I shudder at the type of girls you may be going for if you find BP girls for sub 2 in this area. I mean, this whole area is pretty bad compared to many other places, but sub 2 is just asking for trouble and a bad time. Though I won't trust just random BP girls (or even the sister site ad girls, they mostly look pretty scarily bad). Maybe since I'm not trolling BP all the time I'm not seeing the few gems that come through.

I do know that going sub 2 for SA girls is asking for trouble. Not that you always / often get more for going 4 or more off SA. I had a gorgeous college girl that's been mentioned and reviewed here that came for 3, but packed it up after 30 min citing some BS. I definitely should have stuck to guns about 2 hours and only given her 1 or something. I completely agree with Rick that it's crazy how they remember the $ amount but suddenly think that 30 min is the same as 3 hours! I just had that BS from a girl a few days ago that said she could come by but would have less than an hour. Wouldn't give me a number and when I lowballed like 50 she started getting pissy pretending that guys would pay her 300 for that. Um NO!

There needs to be a board / forum around here so girls understand the area a bit! Miami has it down with amazing girls going for 2/ hr or less with 10 x our options. But lacking that, I'm just going to thank the guys here on this thread that help out on the SA side that I'm sticking to. I'm happy paying a bit more than some of you if I'm getting value. And I'm definitely getting far more value than any of the BP or other girls!

[Ajfff]

John, I disagree with your BP assessment. Monger preferred rates or this market for 2 hrs with a BP girl is 300-360. One hour is in the $150-180 range for a solid provider. Scammer or major upseller BP girls are minimum 200 on up to 300+ per hour (those are the ones you avoid). That is a rough summary of the Orlando market. I've had visiting BP girls who come to Orlando for a few weeks tell me that they have to lower their hourly rate or they don't get phone calls. Lower meaning $ hhr and $. 5 hr.

The BP comparison with SA rates doesn't work. These are two completely different animals. I've done sugar babies, ECCIE girls, and BP girls all throughout diff parts of the country before moving here. Relative to rates and best bang for the buck? All three are very diff from each other.

EEG.

I agree that the comparisons don't work, and it's definitely different rates all over the country / world. But I shudder at the type of girls you may be going for if you find BP girls for sub 2 in this area. I mean, this whole area is pretty bad compared to many other places, but sub 2 is just asking for trouble and a bad time. Though I won't trust just random BP girls (or even the sister site ad girls, they mostly look pretty scarily bad). Maybe since I'm not trolling BP all the time I'm not seeing the few gems that come through.

I do know that going sub 2 for SA girls is asking for trouble. Not that you always / often get more for going 4 or more off SA. I had a gorgeous college girl that's been mentioned and reviewed here that came for 3, but packed it up after 30 min citing some BS. I definitely should have stuck to guns about 2 hours and only given her 1 or something. I completely agree with Rick that it's crazy how they remember the $ amount but suddenly think that 30 min is the same as 3 hours! I just had that BS from a girl a few days ago that said she could come by but would have less than an hour. Wouldn't give me a number and when I lowballed like 50 she started getting pissy pretending that guys would pay her 300 for that. Um NO!

There needs to be a board / forum around here so girls understand the area a bit! Miami has it down with amazing girls going for 2/ hr or less with 10 x our options. But lacking that, I'm just going to thank the guys here on this thread that help out on the SA side that I'm sticking to. I'm happy paying a bit more than some of you if I'm getting value. And I'm definitely getting far more value than any of the BP or other girls!

[CoolPerson73]

I decided to join SA while in the Orlando area, and I guess I don't know what I'm doing, because all I found was overpriced or scammers. Ashley99 seemed promising so I was going to meet up with her this week when I came back in town, but all of a sudden she started texting saying she was going to be evicted and could I send her $1600.00 asap. Now, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night LOL, I'm going to have to pass on her I only have 8 day on my subscription after that I'm throwing in the towel.

[BBC386]

Greeting fellow hobbyists. There's a young lady that is trying her best to get biz any way she can. We have shut her down on the Daytona boards. From what I understand she's bad news. See review #967 on the Daytona board. Just a heads up for you fellas. Be safe.

http://daytona.backpage.com/WomenSee...dtime/23325488