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  1. #1287
    Quote Originally Posted by ImRainMan  [View Original Post]
    I agree, but how do you separate the predator-hobbyists from the professional-hobbyists (the ones that treat the girls like queen)?
    That's always the challenge, but it would be easier if it were legal. Providers are much less likely to report it for fear of implicating themselves. In the article there are descriptions of a provider being robbed and stabbed by a 'hobbyist'. Hobbyists who do that are certainly a minority (just like providers who run scams and try to rob and trick hobbyists), but they make all of us look bad.

    It infuriates me when I hear about hobbyists abusing or otherwise mistreating providers. They're a person just like anyone else. If a hobbyist has a bad experience just describe it on a forum like this and move on. We know what to expect from providers who have been around awhile and have a reputation.

  2. #1286
    Quote Originally Posted by ImRainMan  [View Original Post]
    What's even more ridiculous is that's its legal in Vegas but no where else in the US.
    Actually it's illegal in Vegas. Las Vegas county to be specific. The rest of Nevada sure it's legal.

  3. #1285

    Shay Shalya-tna

    Pros-very nice and accommodating, BBFS allowed. Cons-piercings in every possible location of interest, which isn't my preference for GFE.

  4. #1284

    Readyjamie

    Has anyone seen Readyjamie recently? What did you think?

    http://seattle.backpage.com/WomenSee...-need/50635123

  5. #1283
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo567  [View Original Post]
    I really hope we as a nation realize that this is not a crime. Get rid of the pimps and allow grown adults to engage in a consentual exchange. I mean this is the OLDEST profession in the world, why then, do we harbor a social (and political) stigma in this day and age?
    To be fair some providers are involved out of desperation, coercion (pimps), substance abuse, or have no other option (criminal record, etc.), but as hobbyists that isn't our fault. If a provider truly wants to leave the work I'm entirely in favor of having resources available (counseling, education, housing assistance, etc.), but the reality is you can't save everyone. We aren't the ones who put them in their situation, so I agree that as long as we don't abuse of mistreat them it's one-sided and unfair to target us.

    As far as pimps and predator-hobbyists who abuse, rob, or otherwise mistreat providers, LE should absolutely go after and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. As you say, this would be easier if it were legal. Even where it's legal it's my understanding some of this still happens, but to a lesser degree than where it's illegal.

    And yeah, it's still fundamentally consensual sex among adults. It shouldn't be regarded as criminal just because of the money aspect.

  6. #1282

    TeslaCruise

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelT87  [View Original Post]
    Holy! $500 selective rate?
    Yup. Scroll down a little and you will see the post where she requested this rate. .

  7. #1281

    Seattle Times. FrontPage

    Quote Originally Posted by EastlakeHorndog  [View Original Post]
    For those who haven't I highly recommend reading the article. It's a sober reminder of the risks associated with this hobby and what to be mindful of. It's a lengthy article that covers many aspects of the investigation and related issues in great detail.

    For us hobbyists I think the most important lesson is to be careful how organized your activities are. It seems like most of the hobbyists who were busted became pretty deeply involved by creating web sites and actively promoting providers in ways that were easily identifiable. Fairly early in the article they describe organized, promotional parties where hobbyists and providers promoted each others interests. This level of organization seems risky, so I'm not that surprised they eventually got busted.

    Thank you so fucking much. Seriously, thank you. I get so tired of reading the chicken little posts about how they got busted for posting reviews. Those guys met in public, pissed off people at every restaurant they met in by talking about pussy at the top of their lungs, then created web sites and one of the assholes bragged about fucking trafficked women. So then, while they met in REALITY they were infiltrated and busted.

    It's not hard, mongering generally speaking isn't a team sport. Stay anonymous, fuck some pussy, write about it and all is well.

    A2
    Yup. I have read article bragging about what a stellar job the city is doing while busting board owners. Both in MI and IL before. Neither of those news agencies though listed this level of detail (exactly outlining how they infiltrated the board and then went on to dismantle it). They also provided names of the owners and linked those names to board personas. That really is unique to WA state. Also with WA being one of the only states that wishes to punish the mongers while letting the providers go scott free is a chilling reminder that we need to be more careful. It is crazy that they tracked down top executives from MS and AMZN and Boeing to tied them to the actual development of the websites. Scary to say the least. Most of the other developed nations have legalized (and controlled) the profession, making it safer, cheaper and more assessible (for both the hobbyist and the provider).

    I really hope we as a nation realize that this is not a crime. Get rid of the pimps and allow grown adults to engage in a consentual exchange. I mean this is the OLDEST profession in the world, why then, do we harbor a social (and political) stigma in this day and age?

  8. #1280

    $500

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo567  [View Original Post]
    Haha. Thanks for sharing. An earlier post says she was not even aware her profile there was gone. Good on her to play that to her advantage and now charge 500 saying it is a 'selective' rate. .
    Holy! $500 selective rate?

  9. #1279
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo567  [View Original Post]
    Seattle times front page has an indepth article outlining the bust that went down earlier this year. Did not want to post a link but I am sure most of you must have read it already. I am surprised that names and really intricate details were published.
    For those who haven't I highly recommend reading the article. It's a sober reminder of the risks associated with this hobby and what to be mindful of. It's a lengthy article that covers many aspects of the investigation and related issues in great detail.

    For us hobbyists I think the most important lesson is to be careful how organized your activities are. It seems like most of the hobbyists who were busted became pretty deeply involved by creating web sites and actively promoting providers in ways that were easily identifiable. Fairly early in the article they describe organized, promotional parties where hobbyists and providers promoted each others interests. This level of organization seems risky, so I'm not that surprised they eventually got busted.

    Thank you so fucking much. Seriously, thank you. I get so tired of reading the chicken little posts about how they got busted for posting reviews. Those guys met in public, pissed off people at every restaurant they met in by talking about pussy at the top of their lungs, then created web sites and one of the assholes bragged about fucking trafficked women. So then, while they met in REALITY they were infiltrated and busted.

    It's not hard, mongering generally speaking isn't a team sport. Stay anonymous, fuck some pussy, write about it and all is well.

    A2

  10. #1278
    That's odd. TNA admins are adamant that they would not delete content on demand. You have to wait till the account "expire". Maybe it's a different rule for providers.

  11. #1277

    Seattle Times. FrontPage

    Seattle times front page has an indepth article outlining the bust that went down earlier this year. Did not want to post a link but I am sure most of you must have read it already. I am surprised that names and really intricate details were published.

  12. #1276

    TeslaCruise

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDripCofee  [View Original Post]
    Here's what she told me.

    Black coffee.

    4:17 PM (22 hours ago).

    To TeslaCruise.

    Saw you were banned from TNA. What happened?

    More importantly, are you still playing?

    Tesla Cruise.

    5:53 PM (21 hours ago).

    To me.

    Actually I had all my stuff removed for personal reasons but for some reason everyone thinks I'm banned.

    However, I would be available tomorrow afternoon in Bellevue say around 4 PM or so. I'm only seeing a very select few people at this time and my GFE gift is $500/ hr.

    Let me know if you're interested.
    Haha. Thanks for sharing. An earlier post says she was not even aware her profile there was gone. Good on her to play that to her advantage and now charge 500 saying it is a 'selective' rate. .

  13. #1275
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo567  [View Original Post]
    Any idea why TeslaCruise got the boot over on TNA?
    Here's what she told me.

    Black coffee.

    4:17 PM (22 hours ago).

    To TeslaCruise.

    Saw you were banned from TNA. What happened?

    More importantly, are you still playing?

    Tesla Cruise.

    5:53 PM (21 hours ago).

    To me.

    Actually I had all my stuff removed for personal reasons but for some reason everyone thinks I'm banned.

    However, I would be available tomorrow afternoon in Bellevue say around 4 PM or so. I'm only seeing a very select few people at this time and my GFE gift is $500/ hr.

    Let me know if you're interested.

  14. #1274

    TeslaCruise

    Quote Originally Posted by EazyGoing  [View Original Post]
    She got banned. Easy to Google old reviews with contact info.
    Any idea why TeslaCruise got the boot over on TNA?

  15. #1273

    Teslacruise

    Quote Originally Posted by ITellNoLies  [View Original Post]
    It looks like her account was banned.
    I was emailing her back and forth, and told her she was banned, she didn't know.

    Tell her to advertise on the sister site

    A2

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