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  1. #17142
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    Hairless Vaginas.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]

    Both did not have any hair on vaginas. I guess that's trend, too.
    It's definitely the current trend.

  2. #17141

    Young girls?

    I am not sure I have to release this info. But, there are plenty of young girls in Chicago. They are not just in a massage parlor.

    Last Jan, I posted one ad in dating section in Craigslist. I met a couple of girls.

    Lupe (24) Mexican, working at nursing home.
    Nicole (21) Polish, walmart employee.

    I met them at Panera bread separately. And, it was as easy as going to a parlor.

    I had full service for $200 and $240 each (Nicole was more prepared).

    They remember me as a nice person, so I can meet them any time I want. But, for some reasons, I do not want to rush for that.

    Maybe I do not want to meet the same girls again. Or I am afraid to meet new ones after robbery. Or it was just too expensive.

    $20 meal + $100 hotel + $200 service + $40 tip = $360.

    And, I think I have less sexual desire as getting old, too.

    For now, I just want to enjoy massages for $60. If anything happens, that's fine, but I am not very craving for that.


    P.S.:

    And, here is one missing point.

    One of the reason old ladies are in parlor is customers are old guys.

    (Men start getting massage after 40.)

    Sometimes, people in similar age gather each other.



    Also, why a young girl has to go through labor of one hour massage?

    If they can sell themselves right away, that's not necessary.

    With market principle, not LE, we can guess a bit less desirables go to massage.




    I did not specify any age and was surprised this much young girls came at that time.

    One more surprise.

    Both did not have any hair on vaginas. I guess that's trend, too.

  3. #17140
    Quote Originally Posted by AvgJoe  [View Original Post]
    Stopped in to see Cindy on North Ave in Oak Park a few weeks ago. Not the easiest place to find but parked directly in front so that was cool.

    Rang the buzzer and she answered with her boobs almost hanging out of a nice silk dress. She shows me around the place and then leads me into a room and tells me to get comfortable. She comes back in, starts the massage and then starts complaining about every guy and everything that has happened to her and she is now starting to raise her voice like she is getting angry or something. Later she calms down and finishes the massage.

    Kind of cute lady with a better than average body who can give a good massage when she is not complaining. I'm sure FS is available for the right price but it won't be cheap.

    AJ.
    That sounds odd. She never really said anything, but gave me super hard massage.

    She said "honey" and this and that crap as HE time approached. I am telling you that MTs change depending on customers.

    And, again, I strongly suggest not to trust if someone says "that MT is totally legit". Let me tell you one sweet little cute episode for that.

    There is one European place I never identify though she gave me HE at first time. It was legit out of legit place. I did not say the name here since I am afraid their license can be revoked.

    The place has ad occasionally on Craigslist. When I was there on late Friday, I was surprised that it was in the middle of medical complex (neighbors are like OB Gyn, eye surgery etc.).

    And, the lady was 50 years old Russian and she was totally in nurse uniform with gym shoes (She is actual masseuse in a chiropractic office.) .

    At first, I thought I will cancel it and go home. But, on second, I never had white lady before, so I will try new experience for $65.

    The first 30 minutes of session passed exactly as I expected. Totally legit. No hope of extra what so ever. I remember I sighed a bit.

    But, on the flip, OMG.

    She smiled and started touching my penis. No talk, no negotiation or anything.

    I touched her breasts and I got very intensive HE in 10 minutes.

    Then, she grabbed $65 and left. I asked her not to leave since I will tip her.

    Apparently, she has no idea about this modern tipping system at all (I assume it does not work that way in chiropractic office).

    Late Friday night, no one in entire complex, front door locked, room locked.

    Divorced woman, Felt a little horny, young naked guy. I guess she just want to grab dick and feel it in a while. She cannot do that with a regular customer. I still remember her friendly, but preying eyes. She did not do it for money.

    I wish I can show you the office photo. It was totally medical setting like dentist or animal hospital. I am sure she never really do it since I can see they have been there for years with sweet little doctor friends.

    What I regret the most is Grace now.

    One guy kept saying she is legit with multiple visit years ago. I should have not listened.

    At first, I saw her ass crack coincidently, but it seems she did not wear underwear.

    Second, she hid one very small towel under the foot pillow. Though it did not covered me much, if I did not wear anything, things could be different.

  4. #17139
    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]
    I just pm you the info with tips. Enjoy!
    Dear Xabi,

    I truly appreciate your info.

    It's like sweetest rain in Sahara desert in August.

    By chance, is Lidia in a private residence?

    I called a hair shop down the street and they said they do hair only.

    Let me call her on Mon and see if she is still in business.

    I may have some extra cash, but if she does not offer anything extra, that's fine.

    Thank you, man!

  5. #17138

    Oak Park Cindy

    Stopped in to see Cindy on North Ave in Oak Park a few weeks ago. Not the easiest place to find but parked directly in front so that was cool.

    Rang the buzzer and she answered with her boobs almost hanging out of a nice silk dress. She shows me around the place and then leads me into a room and tells me to get comfortable. She comes back in, starts the massage and then starts complaining about every guy and everything that has happened to her and she is now starting to raise her voice like she is getting angry or something. Later she calms down and finishes the massage.

    Kind of cute lady with a better than average body who can give a good massage when she is not complaining. I'm sure FS is available for the right price but it won't be cheap.

    AJ.

  6. #17137

    CC99 the info is pm to you. Good luck!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Thank you, Man.

    Why don't I try Lydia once instead of having discussion with Julia?

    You are like walking library, man.

    Please PM me as I cannot PM you or write her address here.

    The entire area is depressed and they will appreciate new businesses.

    Personally, I won't push for extra.
    I just pm you the info with tips. Enjoy!

  7. #17136

    The Chinese

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleface  [View Original Post]
    Bottle Rocket: You are absolutely right about everything in this post. I have been to other cities and seen the same thing, girls in their 20's all over the place. I hardly ever go out to the AMPs here anymore. The girls are old, ugly, and they want too much money, a lot of bad attitude.

    In Chicago we are lucky to find a girl in her 30's. Someone posted about a young girl in an AMP on Halsted just south of 35th. I went, but there were no young girls in there. The youngest was in her 40's.

    I tried elegant on Grand. Two girls in their 30's, one thought she was God's gift. The other one would go for 15 fast minutes, no longer, take it or leave it. Both were in their 30's. That is no longer young.

    I tried Belmont, same thing, one fat girl in her 30's and the others in their 40's and 50's.

    I think that the young girls are discouraged from working by the older ones. Remember Little Eva a few years ago? Pusalski? 26th street? She was actually young, around 24 years old. She told me she wanted to work for a while, make enough money to do something with her life and then disappear. That is exactly what she did. I remember that her colleagues were not always happy to have her around. Sunny, Cici, Ellen were all good to us, but a lot of guys were looking for a young girl and when one showed up, that took business away from them. Eventually Eva got out of the parlors and became an apartment girl. Then she disappeared, at least to me.

    There are a lot of young asian girls in Chicago, but they don't want to get into it.

    If more of us got fed up with this, the owners would get the message, and then things might change. Me, I am on strike.
    In my opinion, this isn't something that they should do long term. This is a profession to be in for a year or two while you save to do something else. The other problem is that there is a lot of deception and mistreatment in the Chinese community. In my time in the hobby, I have met a lot of girls who genuinely liked what they did. These are probably the girls who knew exactly what they were getting into and what they wanted to get out of it. There were also some who you could tell just didn't want to be doing it. These are probably girls who were lied to or manipulated into doing it. Ultimately that and the recent articles on trafficking have given me pause from going to Chinese (and Thai) places anymore.

  8. #17135

    Great post

    Quote Originally Posted by BottleRocket12  [View Original Post]
    This article right here sums up the state of the hobby in Chicago perfectly. It's also why I'm done with the parlors. I have my legit places that I love and I have my motel girls. In 4 years of going to parlors, with over 200 visits, I would have to say that only 35% of the time was the girl under 40.30% of the time was the massage actually worthwhile and therapeutic. 25% of the time was the the HE non-mechanical and unrushed. And only really about 12% of the time was the experience so incredible that I couldn't wait to go back. These are poor numbers and I did my fair amount of research. Imagine what a casual hobbyist goes through.

    To contrast that with another city. In my visit to Philadelphia, I had 4 sessions. 100% of the girls were under 30.100% of them were attractive with a tight and fit body. 100% of them had a table shower, in fact, the girl showered as well. 0% of the time was the massage therapeutic. 100% of the time was there fucking involved for a total of around 130 dollars. So it's not quite the same thing as a standard Chicago parlor, but if this place existed in Chicago, it would be impossible to get a visit. The girls were young Koreans. They were model types. You walked in and mamasan directed you to a room. The girl would come in and you would be blown away by her looks. Then she would take you to the table shower. She would be in a bikini herself. She would wash you down thoroughly with heavy teasing, and then she would use a bucket to wash herself off really well. Then it was back to the room where she would strip naked completely, begin a mediocre to non existent massage, and then proceed to CFS. One girl allowed a facial, a couple others allowed COB.

    Now you see why those of us who have hobbied in other places complain so much about what we have here. The overwhelming majority of Chicago parlors would close if they were in Philly, due to lack of customers. They would be forced to go out and get actual talent. And now, with all these closures, the demand for the remaining places will skyrocket, the girls and the mamasans will be petrified of any customers they don't recognize, and they will likely all downgrade to DIY only. After all, a 10 to 20 dollar tip and no court trouble is 100% better than a 40 dollar tip and appearing before a judge. The HE parlor business in Chicago is over. This is the nail the coffin. There will be a fuckton of Chinese apartments, which are no match in comparison to the Korean place I described above, and will likely be targeted next. There will be a ton of 180 to 240 an hour places, mostly with Euro and American girls, who will proceed to upcharge on top of that for their Nuru's and whatnot. And that's all we are going to have, aside from 300 to 400 an hour escorts.

    It is, in my opinion, better to take a road trip once a month and experience other cities than it is to feed your hard earned to the remaining places here. Philly is a 12 hour drive. You could go in for the weekend and fuck your brains out and be back with a smile on your face for Monday morning, for about the same price as going to a parlor once a week, and dealing with mopey grandma's.
    Bottle Rocket: You are absolutely right about everything in this post. I have been to other cities and seen the same thing, girls in their 20's all over the place. I hardly ever go out to the AMPs here anymore. The girls are old, ugly, and they want too much money, a lot of bad attitude.

    In Chicago we are lucky to find a girl in her 30's. Someone posted about a young girl in an AMP on Halsted just south of 35th. I went, but there were no young girls in there. The youngest was in her 40's.

    I tried elegant on Grand. Two girls in their 30's, one thought she was God's gift. The other one would go for 15 fast minutes, no longer, take it or leave it. Both were in their 30's. That is no longer young.

    I tried Belmont, same thing, one fat girl in her 30's and the others in their 40's and 50's.

    I think that the young girls are discouraged from working by the older ones. Remember Little Eva a few years ago? Pusalski? 26th street? She was actually young, around 24 years old. She told me she wanted to work for a while, make enough money to do something with her life and then disappear. That is exactly what she did. I remember that her colleagues were not always happy to have her around. Sunny, Cici, Ellen were all good to us, but a lot of guys were looking for a young girl and when one showed up, that took business away from them. Eventually Eva got out of the parlors and became an apartment girl. Then she disappeared, at least to me.

    There are a lot of young asian girls in Chicago, but they don't want to get into it.

    If more of us got fed up with this, the owners would get the message, and then things might change. Me, I am on strike.

  9. #17134
    Quote Originally Posted by DrManhattan  [View Original Post]
    Via facebook, I discovered a gorgeous looking Daiva that works at a spa in Willowbrook. I'm wondering, is this the same woman you referenced above? (If it is, she's even finer looking that Lady D.) I called the spa and asked to see her for body work, but was given the runaround.
    Not the same one, but similar.

    The same nationality and village to live.

    By the way, the place she work is luxury nail salon, but it has 1 hr massage for $60.

    I like to try that if they allow a man to come in.


    P.S.:

    I found this as well and it shows $60 an hour.

    https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/atel...RC6B47Fta3JfHg

  10. #17133
    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]
    CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.
    Cindy is fine for just in case.

    It's hard to define someone giving extra or not.

    The most obvious example is "East meet west".

    It's Japanese man massage place for woman. The owner has 75 good reviews from ladies for legit massage on Yelp.

    But, he was arrested for extra and the shop is closed now. I guess he did it for few people and did it to one new customer.

  11. #17132
    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]
    Yes CC99 I agree the first person, Raisa, has bad attitude and not much too look at. I do not recommend. As for Julia, she does not employee her staff so she does not have to pay benefits etc. Her only employee is her daughter. My friend Karolina use to work there years ago before she went to Megis. Most Euros dress sexy but its how they dress. Good luck with Julia. Check out her FB and youll see plenty of boob pics. Its just how she chooses to dress. A very nice lady. This may help you. Ask her about Lydia who works a half block down. This will get her to talk about HE.
    Thank you, Man.

    Why don't I try Lydia once instead of having discussion with Julia?

    You are like walking library, man.

    Please PM me as I cannot PM you or write her address here.

    The entire area is depressed and they will appreciate new businesses.

    Personally, I won't push for extra.

  12. #17131

    Inconsistency

    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]
    CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.
    In reports or findings have another variable to consider. Those submitting the reports. Maybe a leap in logic to repose 100% reliability in everything appearing on Internet.

  13. #17130
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Out of 23 places, only four people massaged for complete one hour: Anna, Daiva, Cindy, and Julia.
    Via facebook, I discovered a gorgeous looking Daiva that works at a spa in Willowbrook. I'm wondering, is this the same woman you referenced above? (If it is, she's even finer looking that Lady D.) I called the spa and asked to see her for body work, but was given the runaround.

  14. #17129
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Personally, I am still glad I found this place.

    Out of 23 places, only four people massaged for complete one hour: Anna, Daiva, Cindy, and Julia.

    Only two hard massages: Cindy and Julia.

    Only one person did not push for HE: Julia.

    And, it's hard to say if a MT offers extra or not. It really depends on customers, MT's mood or situation.

    For example, everyone unanimously says Ania does not offer extra, but someone got it.

    When I was with Cindy, she approached me very carefully for HE at the end, but one guy got FS right away.

    And, in case of my previous Chinese report, I assume most of people do not get HE in that luxury residence. She displayed medical maps all over the wall. But, I got it.

    There are so many examples for this.

    For now, let me enjoy full hard massage for $60.
    CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.

  15. #17128
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Thank you, man.

    I did not like the first lady in character wise. But, I am glad she's getting customers.



    In case of Julia, let me see how things would go.

    Strange thing is she was looking at my penis carefully when I was laying on my back while she massaged my neck. I felt like she checked if it's erected or not.

    Women sometimes changes as they get old. They have maximum desire in 50s. It seems she is approaching that age.

    If her daughter works together, she won't. But, she said Edith is only employee and Julia was all alone for hours when I was there.

    1. No husband.
    2. Boob showing clothes.
    3. Body scrub
    4. Need to pay rent.

    I like to see how things would go.

    I will visit before closing and suggest her to turn off signs before session. Three doors (front door, massage isle door, massage room door) will be locked and I will repeat it.

    Otherwise, I will have super strong massage.
    Yes CC99 I agree the first person, Raisa, has bad attitude and not much too look at. I do not recommend. As for Julia, she does not employee her staff so she does not have to pay benefits etc. Her only employee is her daughter. My friend Karolina use to work there years ago before she went to Megis. Most Euros dress sexy but its how they dress. Good luck with Julia. Check out her FB and youll see plenty of boob pics. Its just how she chooses to dress. A very nice lady. This may help you. Ask her about Lydia who works a half block down. This will get her to talk about HE.

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