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  1. #17139

    Oak Park Cindy

    Stopped in to see Cindy on North Ave in Oak Park a few weeks ago. Not the easiest place to find but parked directly in front so that was cool.

    Rang the buzzer and she answered with her boobs almost hanging out of a nice silk dress. She shows me around the place and then leads me into a room and tells me to get comfortable. She comes back in, starts the massage and then starts complaining about every guy and everything that has happened to her and she is now starting to raise her voice like she is getting angry or something. Later she calms down and finishes the massage.

    Kind of cute lady with a better than average body who can give a good massage when she is not complaining. I'm sure FS is available for the right price but it won't be cheap.

    AJ.

  2. #17138

    CC99 the info is pm to you. Good luck!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Thank you, Man.

    Why don't I try Lydia once instead of having discussion with Julia?

    You are like walking library, man.

    Please PM me as I cannot PM you or write her address here.

    The entire area is depressed and they will appreciate new businesses.

    Personally, I won't push for extra.
    I just pm you the info with tips. Enjoy!

  3. #17137

    The Chinese

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleface  [View Original Post]
    Bottle Rocket: You are absolutely right about everything in this post. I have been to other cities and seen the same thing, girls in their 20's all over the place. I hardly ever go out to the AMPs here anymore. The girls are old, ugly, and they want too much money, a lot of bad attitude.

    In Chicago we are lucky to find a girl in her 30's. Someone posted about a young girl in an AMP on Halsted just south of 35th. I went, but there were no young girls in there. The youngest was in her 40's.

    I tried elegant on Grand. Two girls in their 30's, one thought she was God's gift. The other one would go for 15 fast minutes, no longer, take it or leave it. Both were in their 30's. That is no longer young.

    I tried Belmont, same thing, one fat girl in her 30's and the others in their 40's and 50's.

    I think that the young girls are discouraged from working by the older ones. Remember Little Eva a few years ago? Pusalski? 26th street? She was actually young, around 24 years old. She told me she wanted to work for a while, make enough money to do something with her life and then disappear. That is exactly what she did. I remember that her colleagues were not always happy to have her around. Sunny, Cici, Ellen were all good to us, but a lot of guys were looking for a young girl and when one showed up, that took business away from them. Eventually Eva got out of the parlors and became an apartment girl. Then she disappeared, at least to me.

    There are a lot of young asian girls in Chicago, but they don't want to get into it.

    If more of us got fed up with this, the owners would get the message, and then things might change. Me, I am on strike.
    In my opinion, this isn't something that they should do long term. This is a profession to be in for a year or two while you save to do something else. The other problem is that there is a lot of deception and mistreatment in the Chinese community. In my time in the hobby, I have met a lot of girls who genuinely liked what they did. These are probably the girls who knew exactly what they were getting into and what they wanted to get out of it. There were also some who you could tell just didn't want to be doing it. These are probably girls who were lied to or manipulated into doing it. Ultimately that and the recent articles on trafficking have given me pause from going to Chinese (and Thai) places anymore.

  4. #17136

    Great post

    Quote Originally Posted by BottleRocket12  [View Original Post]
    This article right here sums up the state of the hobby in Chicago perfectly. It's also why I'm done with the parlors. I have my legit places that I love and I have my motel girls. In 4 years of going to parlors, with over 200 visits, I would have to say that only 35% of the time was the girl under 40.30% of the time was the massage actually worthwhile and therapeutic. 25% of the time was the the HE non-mechanical and unrushed. And only really about 12% of the time was the experience so incredible that I couldn't wait to go back. These are poor numbers and I did my fair amount of research. Imagine what a casual hobbyist goes through.

    To contrast that with another city. In my visit to Philadelphia, I had 4 sessions. 100% of the girls were under 30.100% of them were attractive with a tight and fit body. 100% of them had a table shower, in fact, the girl showered as well. 0% of the time was the massage therapeutic. 100% of the time was there fucking involved for a total of around 130 dollars. So it's not quite the same thing as a standard Chicago parlor, but if this place existed in Chicago, it would be impossible to get a visit. The girls were young Koreans. They were model types. You walked in and mamasan directed you to a room. The girl would come in and you would be blown away by her looks. Then she would take you to the table shower. She would be in a bikini herself. She would wash you down thoroughly with heavy teasing, and then she would use a bucket to wash herself off really well. Then it was back to the room where she would strip naked completely, begin a mediocre to non existent massage, and then proceed to CFS. One girl allowed a facial, a couple others allowed COB.

    Now you see why those of us who have hobbied in other places complain so much about what we have here. The overwhelming majority of Chicago parlors would close if they were in Philly, due to lack of customers. They would be forced to go out and get actual talent. And now, with all these closures, the demand for the remaining places will skyrocket, the girls and the mamasans will be petrified of any customers they don't recognize, and they will likely all downgrade to DIY only. After all, a 10 to 20 dollar tip and no court trouble is 100% better than a 40 dollar tip and appearing before a judge. The HE parlor business in Chicago is over. This is the nail the coffin. There will be a fuckton of Chinese apartments, which are no match in comparison to the Korean place I described above, and will likely be targeted next. There will be a ton of 180 to 240 an hour places, mostly with Euro and American girls, who will proceed to upcharge on top of that for their Nuru's and whatnot. And that's all we are going to have, aside from 300 to 400 an hour escorts.

    It is, in my opinion, better to take a road trip once a month and experience other cities than it is to feed your hard earned to the remaining places here. Philly is a 12 hour drive. You could go in for the weekend and fuck your brains out and be back with a smile on your face for Monday morning, for about the same price as going to a parlor once a week, and dealing with mopey grandma's.
    Bottle Rocket: You are absolutely right about everything in this post. I have been to other cities and seen the same thing, girls in their 20's all over the place. I hardly ever go out to the AMPs here anymore. The girls are old, ugly, and they want too much money, a lot of bad attitude.

    In Chicago we are lucky to find a girl in her 30's. Someone posted about a young girl in an AMP on Halsted just south of 35th. I went, but there were no young girls in there. The youngest was in her 40's.

    I tried elegant on Grand. Two girls in their 30's, one thought she was God's gift. The other one would go for 15 fast minutes, no longer, take it or leave it. Both were in their 30's. That is no longer young.

    I tried Belmont, same thing, one fat girl in her 30's and the others in their 40's and 50's.

    I think that the young girls are discouraged from working by the older ones. Remember Little Eva a few years ago? Pusalski? 26th street? She was actually young, around 24 years old. She told me she wanted to work for a while, make enough money to do something with her life and then disappear. That is exactly what she did. I remember that her colleagues were not always happy to have her around. Sunny, Cici, Ellen were all good to us, but a lot of guys were looking for a young girl and when one showed up, that took business away from them. Eventually Eva got out of the parlors and became an apartment girl. Then she disappeared, at least to me.

    There are a lot of young asian girls in Chicago, but they don't want to get into it.

    If more of us got fed up with this, the owners would get the message, and then things might change. Me, I am on strike.

  5. #17135
    Quote Originally Posted by DrManhattan  [View Original Post]
    Via facebook, I discovered a gorgeous looking Daiva that works at a spa in Willowbrook. I'm wondering, is this the same woman you referenced above? (If it is, she's even finer looking that Lady D.) I called the spa and asked to see her for body work, but was given the runaround.
    Not the same one, but similar.

    The same nationality and village to live.

    By the way, the place she work is luxury nail salon, but it has 1 hr massage for $60.

    I like to try that if they allow a man to come in.


    P.S.:

    I found this as well and it shows $60 an hour.

    https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/atel...RC6B47Fta3JfHg

  6. #17134
    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]
    CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.
    Cindy is fine for just in case.

    It's hard to define someone giving extra or not.

    The most obvious example is "East meet west".

    It's Japanese man massage place for woman. The owner has 75 good reviews from ladies for legit massage on Yelp.

    But, he was arrested for extra and the shop is closed now. I guess he did it for few people and did it to one new customer.

  7. #17133
    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]
    Yes CC99 I agree the first person, Raisa, has bad attitude and not much too look at. I do not recommend. As for Julia, she does not employee her staff so she does not have to pay benefits etc. Her only employee is her daughter. My friend Karolina use to work there years ago before she went to Megis. Most Euros dress sexy but its how they dress. Good luck with Julia. Check out her FB and youll see plenty of boob pics. Its just how she chooses to dress. A very nice lady. This may help you. Ask her about Lydia who works a half block down. This will get her to talk about HE.
    Thank you, Man.

    Why don't I try Lydia once instead of having discussion with Julia?

    You are like walking library, man.

    Please PM me as I cannot PM you or write her address here.

    The entire area is depressed and they will appreciate new businesses.

    Personally, I won't push for extra.

  8. #17132

    Inconsistency

    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]
    CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.
    In reports or findings have another variable to consider. Those submitting the reports. Maybe a leap in logic to repose 100% reliability in everything appearing on Internet.

  9. #17131
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Out of 23 places, only four people massaged for complete one hour: Anna, Daiva, Cindy, and Julia.
    Via facebook, I discovered a gorgeous looking Daiva that works at a spa in Willowbrook. I'm wondering, is this the same woman you referenced above? (If it is, she's even finer looking that Lady D.) I called the spa and asked to see her for body work, but was given the runaround.

  10. #17130
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Personally, I am still glad I found this place.

    Out of 23 places, only four people massaged for complete one hour: Anna, Daiva, Cindy, and Julia.

    Only two hard massages: Cindy and Julia.

    Only one person did not push for HE: Julia.

    And, it's hard to say if a MT offers extra or not. It really depends on customers, MT's mood or situation.

    For example, everyone unanimously says Ania does not offer extra, but someone got it.

    When I was with Cindy, she approached me very carefully for HE at the end, but one guy got FS right away.

    And, in case of my previous Chinese report, I assume most of people do not get HE in that luxury residence. She displayed medical maps all over the wall. But, I got it.

    There are so many examples for this.

    For now, let me enjoy full hard massage for $60.
    CC99 - yes Ania provided something extra. As for Cindy, if this is the one from oak park, she's a complainer which is not something customers want when getting massaged. She provides the many benefits mongers may be interested in. Good job on your reports and good luck cc99.

  11. #17129
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    Thank you, man.

    I did not like the first lady in character wise. But, I am glad she's getting customers.



    In case of Julia, let me see how things would go.

    Strange thing is she was looking at my penis carefully when I was laying on my back while she massaged my neck. I felt like she checked if it's erected or not.

    Women sometimes changes as they get old. They have maximum desire in 50s. It seems she is approaching that age.

    If her daughter works together, she won't. But, she said Edith is only employee and Julia was all alone for hours when I was there.

    1. No husband.
    2. Boob showing clothes.
    3. Body scrub
    4. Need to pay rent.

    I like to see how things would go.

    I will visit before closing and suggest her to turn off signs before session. Three doors (front door, massage isle door, massage room door) will be locked and I will repeat it.

    Otherwise, I will have super strong massage.
    Yes CC99 I agree the first person, Raisa, has bad attitude and not much too look at. I do not recommend. As for Julia, she does not employee her staff so she does not have to pay benefits etc. Her only employee is her daughter. My friend Karolina use to work there years ago before she went to Megis. Most Euros dress sexy but its how they dress. Good luck with Julia. Check out her FB and youll see plenty of boob pics. Its just how she chooses to dress. A very nice lady. This may help you. Ask her about Lydia who works a half block down. This will get her to talk about HE.

  12. #17128
    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]

    Second link. I'm friends with Jagoda (Julia) who is the owner. Her daughter is s knock out and does manicures there. Julia is a MILF. She does not provide extras. Her staff does not either. Svitlana the 23 yr old blonde no longer works there. Pretty girls but absolutely no extras.
    Personally, I am still glad I found this place.

    Out of 23 places, only four people massaged for complete one hour: Anna, Daiva, Cindy, and Julia.

    Only two hard massages: Cindy and Julia.

    Only one person did not push for HE: Julia.

    And, it's hard to say if a MT offers extra or not. It really depends on customers, MT's mood or situation.

    For example, everyone unanimously says Ania does not offer extra, but someone got it.

    When I was with Cindy, she approached me very carefully for HE at the end, but one guy got FS right away.

    And, in case of my previous Chinese report, I assume most of people do not get HE in that luxury residence. She displayed medical maps all over the wall. But, I got it.

    There are so many examples for this.

    For now, let me enjoy full hard massage for $60.

  13. #17127
    Quote Originally Posted by XabiAlonso  [View Original Post]
    First link. Mongers may remember this lady because she use to wear gloves during HE. Also suffered scars from a fire in the building she worked at.

    Second link. I'm friends with Jagoda (Julia) who is the owner. Her daughter is s knock out and does manicures there. Julia is a MILF. She does not provide extras. Her staff does not either. Svitlana the 23 yr old blonde no longer works there. Pretty girls but absolutely no extras.
    Thank you, man.

    I did not like the first lady in character wise. But, I am glad she's getting customers.



    In case of Julia, let me see how things would go.

    Strange thing is she was looking at my penis carefully when I was laying on my back while she massaged my neck. I felt like she checked if it's erected or not.

    Women sometimes changes as they get old. They have maximum desire in 50s. It seems she is approaching that age.

    If her daughter works together, she won't. But, she said Edith is only employee and Julia was all alone for hours when I was there.

    1. No husband.
    2. Boob showing clothes.
    3. Body scrub
    4. Need to pay rent.

    I like to see how things would go.

    I will visit before closing and suggest her to turn off signs before session. Three doors (front door, massage isle door, massage room door) will be locked and I will repeat it.

    Otherwise, I will have super strong massage.

  14. #17126
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCat99  [View Original Post]
    https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6147683409.html

    I thought $70 an hour is a bit pricey for a residence.

    But, I thought it may be a luxury house as in the Chinese case. Or maybe the lady is pretty.

    When I was there, I found the area is poor Mexican neighborhood. An abandoned car with a tow warning stickers. Old townhouse.

    I still wanted to check out the lady. And, a 65 years old lady came out.

    I made excuse to get out like, "Where is the nearest ATM?" and her attitude became hostile.

    I feel sorry for the lady, but I could not spend that much even when some storefronts charge less.






    https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/6145943329.html

    I had great success with this place.

    This would be my "go to" place from now.

    First of all, the lady was quite decent looking.

    It sounds shallow, but I am picky on MT's look. There are a lot of parlors I walked back after asking a couple of questions.

    I guess this lady, Julia (45) is the second prettiest one next to Anna (32) out of 23 parlors so far.

    Second, this lady massaged incredibly hard.

    She is petite with big breasts, but hand power was incredible.

    I actually screamed and asked her stop. But, it did not work out. I think she has firm belief that strong massage is good.

    (Anyway, hard massage is my thing, but you can ask her to be soft in the beginning.)

    I had plenty of hard massage on my neck, head and shoulders and felt pretty good when I came out. Headache and fatigue were gone.

    She spent good time on my feet as well.

    This place is originally woman's manicure and hair salon. But, pretty slow as no one was there for 2-3 hours.

    She used quality oil and offered hot towel and water.

    I exposed myself few times, but she covered me.

    I want to go to restroom after 30 minutes and she brought me special shoes. She let me walked around in naked as she closed massage isle door

    She wore sexy clothes showing half of her breasts. My gut feeling is thing s could be better as I repeat.

    Otherwise, I will have super hard massage which I like.

    $60 massage + $20 tip = $80.
    First link. Mongers may remember this lady because she use to wear gloves during HE. Also suffered scars from a fire in the building she worked at.

    Second link. I'm friends with Jagoda (Julia) who is the owner. Her daughter is s knock out and does manicures there. Julia is a MILF. She does not provide extras. Her staff does not either. Svitlana the 23 yr old blonde no longer works there. Pretty girls but absolutely no extras.

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