Massage Parlor Reports

**MT314** · 03-22-17 12:22

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse666 [View Original Post]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/wom...ution-mbi-says

As many have already mentioned, LEO is trying to stir the pot with a fishing expedition. Anybody can get charged with anything at any time. Making it stck and getting a conviction is a totally separate deal. Most of the time they do this to see if they will talk.

One charge in particular stood out to me. Is NOT against the law in Florida to get a massage w / o being draped! If a client requests that, then the therapist is not doing anything wrong, therefore can't be changed with that. Florida is a draping optional state.

I am a massage therapist and as such, you have to explain the draping process to your client. It's up to them if they want to use it or not. With that said, most chains, and therapists require draping as their own practice.

Here is the law regarding draping in just in case anyone ever gets caught uncovered on a table. Unless you're caught in the act of FS, they have nothing on you! I didn't include the first 4 because they don't pertain to the topic at hand.

Misconduct and Negligence in the Practice of Massage Therapy. The following acts shall constitute the failure to practice massage therapy with that level of care, skill, and treatment which is recognized by a reasonably prudent similar massage therapist as being acceptable under similar conditions and circumstances:

(5) Failure to appropriately drape a client. Appropriate draping of a client shall include draping of the buttocks and genitalia of all clients, and breasts of female clients, unless the client gives specific informed consent to be undraped.

MT314.

**Mj832** · 03-22-17 11:05

Originally Posted by Chino44 [View Original Post]

Why go to either for that matter.

More curious than anything. Variety is the spice of life.

**USTraveller** · 03-22-17 10:47

Lots of tips in the Massage threads on re-assuring providers you're not LEO. Little things you do / say will clue them in. Be safe!

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...and-Guidelines

**Sexyblk8** · 03-22-17 10:19

This was bound 2 happen. Whether it was the forum, disgruntled monger, or angry neighbors; it was bound 2 happen. TOO POPULAR. LEO likes 2 scare the top dog; to scare all of us. Thats why I prefer low profile places. Be safe.

**Member #5521** · 03-22-17 09:33

The problem is no matter what code we come up with LEO will always figure it out. They have people that just troll websites all day. Also how can we be sure that a senior member on this site is not LEO they could just post fake reviews to gain trust and then use all are info to find who to bust. Not saying this is true but anything is possible that's the shitty part. I wish there was a way for us to keep LEO out of everything. This is the one reason why I am skeptical on new places and providers. So, everyone just do your research before a visit to keep yourself safe.

Originally Posted by KalaFina [View Original Post]

Been talking to owners I know across the state and I've brought up this topic before but none of the codes or tricks they come up with have convinced me that they could work, I am thinking about coming up with a way to let spas statewide know who the ok mongers are and who aren't without the customers knowing this themselves, if a customer knows then uncle will learn it eventually because we all know there is always that one guy out of the bunch, I've already expressed my ideas to some owners in orange and Osceola county talking to some in Tampa and from there onto Clearwater, I brought some talents from there when I went to see an owner I know and he allowed me to take 2 girls back to my city, pretty neat. Too bad there I no other spa at the moment that can offer what cb and bb did, it's a huge blow to the us more than them IMHO.

**ThaiHammer** · 03-22-17 08:20

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**KalaFina** · 03-22-17 01:18

Been talking to owners I know across the state and I've brought up this topic before but none of the codes or tricks they come up with have convinced me that they could work, I am thinking about coming up with a way to let spas statewide know who the ok mongers are and who aren't without the customers knowing this themselves, if a customer knows then uncle will learn it eventually because we all know there is always that one guy out of the bunch, I've already expressed my ideas to some owners in orange and Osceola county talking to some in Tampa and from there onto Clearwater, I brought some talents from there when I went to see an owner I know and he allowed me to take 2 girls back to my city, pretty neat. Too bad there I no other spa at the moment that can offer what cb and bb did, it's a huge blow to the us more than them IMHO.

Originally Posted by BoredFlGuy [View Original Post]

Going to have to come up with a secret knock and code word, like they did back in the day at the speakeasies. Like there isn't bigger problems in Orlando they need to be working on. I guess its a whole lot easier to bust these places than the other issues.

Maybe if the competition offered better services they wouldn't have to resort to tattling, I'm not going to say it was another AMP that reported them, but if it was I think I've got a good idea of which one.

**Barolo** · 03-21-17 23:17

Originally Posted by Gentleman100 [View Original Post]

I feel the need to point out that Uncle LEO benefits from the news media stories of rumors. In all likelihood, the therapists will not be charged and are now fully lawyered up. Uncle Leo knows they don't have a case unless the therapists talk and give them the evidence they don't have. They are using fraudulent (but legal) tactics to get evidence. Uncle Leo can lie, cheat, and be deceptive. The news media is their willing accomplice (sort of like the Vichy French to the Nazis: look it up). Uncle Leo throws in all sorts of charges with no proof, with the sole intent of getting the victim to talk or admit to some charges.

Anyone can be charged with a crime. Proving it is what matters. No proof = charges dropped. Here is some very good information to know about your rights (printable info available): https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-youre-stopped-police-immigration-agents-or-fbi.

If the girls were not being careful, they will probably be replaced with those that are more discreet. Everyone gets pinched, but not everyone gets convicted. The services they previously offered will still be there.

The girls will be fine, BB will be fine, and we all can move along with our lives and have fun at our favorite places. Naturally, this is my learned, experienced, and humble opinion.

Be safe.

This is very true. The ace for LEO according to the article they are not licensed. This is a felony charge in Florida. Prostitution usually is not but they can try to use the RICO act to go after the owners!

**Gentleman 100** · 03-21-17 21:56

I feel the need to point out that Uncle LEO benefits from the news media stories of rumors. In all likelihood, the therapists will not be charged and are now fully lawyered up. Uncle Leo knows they don't have a case unless the therapists talk and give them the evidence they don't have. They are using fraudulent (but legal) tactics to get evidence. Uncle Leo can lie, cheat, and be deceptive. The news media is their willing accomplice (sort of like the Vichy French to the Nazis: look it up). Uncle Leo throws in all sorts of charges with no proof, with the sole intent of getting the victim to talk or admit to some charges.

Anyone can be charged with a crime. Proving it is what matters. No proof = charges dropped. Here is some very good information to know about your rights (printable info available): https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-youre-stopped-police-immigration-agents-or-fbi.

If the girls were not being careful, they will probably be replaced with those that are more discreet. Everyone gets pinched, but not everyone gets convicted. The services they previously offered will still be there.

The girls will be fine, BB will be fine, and we all can move along with our lives and have fun at our favorite places. Naturally, this is my learned, experienced, and humble opinion.

Be safe.

**BoredFlGuy** · 03-21-17 20:47

Going to have to come up with a secret knock and code word, like they did back in the day at the speakeasies. Like there isn't bigger problems in Orlando they need to be working on. I guess its a whole lot easier to bust these places than the other issues.

Maybe if the competition offered better services they wouldn't have to resort to tattling, I'm not going to say it was another AMP that reported them, but if it was I think I've got a good idea of which one.

**Miketastic69** · 03-21-17 20:06

Originally Posted by Pbfla321 [View Original Post]

I'm willing to bet they are going to be legit from now on. Maybe be lucky enough to get a handshake.

The girls are OK. Must have been a scary experience. This event is the ultimate taking one for the team! Glad to see two bonded out. Hope the third is in the wind soon. I will be back no matter what.

**MrBill469** · 03-21-17 18:03

Originally Posted by WalSTreet [View Original Post]

No surprise guys. Way too much chatter about this place.

Reading the article, I note that the website 'chatter' was not what led LE to the location. Rather is was the 'tattle' of a proactive report, or complaint, directly to a tipster-hotline type of thing from a complainant that was actually a visitor and offered first hand observations (reportedly). The remarks about the fact that "Agents found a website. . . " have nothing to do with actual probable cause, nor will anything gleaned from that website be admissible anywhere other than media reports. All for the purpose of quieting down that 'chatter' (if you ask me).

If any competitor, or other nefarious person, is seeking to create problems for the place, whatever would be learned from website reports could possibly contribute to a fictional fabric built for those purposes. Otherwise, seeking to reduce reporting runs counter to the purpose of the board. . . In my humble opinion.

**Pbfla321** · 03-21-17 17:55

Originally Posted by Gentleman100 [View Original Post]

Reminder: only the therapists were taken into custody. Not the clients (us mongers).

I think their services will remain, but they will need to be more discreet (maybe even start wearing scrubs: with some lingerie underneath). Be safe.

I'm willing to bet they are going to be legit from now on. Maybe be lucky enough to get a handshake.

**Gentleman 100** · 03-21-17 17:42

Originally Posted by Magicman20 [View Original Post]

Watching the coverage they also mentioned another place but no name on Bumby wow! Becareful fellas.

Reminder: only the therapists were taken into custody. Not the clients (us mongers).

I think their services will remain, but they will need to be more discreet (maybe even start wearing scrubs: with some lingerie underneath). Be safe.