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[Goser]

You need to chill out regarding Apple at Happiness. I see you were put on permanent moderation with your first post. Then, you do a second and a third. That third one will probably get you banned. You made your point. Give it up, dude. I haven't been the Happiness since the new girl showed up, but you probably killed her business. Nice job.

Good call

A2

[Goser]

Happiness has many shills. So easy to see who they are. They try to hide it by posting else where once in a while but when they report on other sites is way different from when they post on Happiness. And their report is so off. There was a post when someone pointed out all the Happiness shills and they stop posting for a while. Than again Happiness already made $$$ from all the mongers who believed the post and tried them out. Than Happiness simply move them out and get new ones. These shills than make new user name later. Believe reports from reliable members only. I learned the hard way too.

I agree with the idea that mongers should check the credentials of reviewers before believing everything they read. However, just because someone calls you a shill, it doesn't mean you are one. I was called out as a shill for Happiness by the group you mentioned and anyone who reads my posts and sees where I do reviews will see the truth. My reviews are accurate according to my experiences. I will say that sometimes I won't write a review at all if it is bad. I recently had a bad experience at Nirvana and I didn't want to ruin that provider's business, so I didn't do a review.

In addition, I have since learned that a lot of girls read my reviews (not unique to me, just surprised that girls new my thoughts about specific girls). Since I have a friendship with many girls in these AMPs where we go out for coffee or lunch on occasion, I have to be careful not to upset those providers to preserve my relationships. So, I tend to skip doing negative reviews as a result.

This message board can be brutal at times. If you are just a monger who wants honest reviews to decide if you want to go see a girl, you need to read the reviews and then read between the lines as well. You can usually tell when a review is honest if you have a small amount of healthy skepticism. When in doubt, just send a monger a private message to get the whole truth. I have noticed that many reviewers are starting to hold back information as well. It makes it more difficult to get the whole story, but it makes the hunt that much more exciting.

[CaveMan808]

PapaSan posted a glowing review of Apple on the Happiness thread saying she was 23 and gave great service, this was total bs, she is a MILF at least 43 with the saggiest tits, droopy nipples, pooch, and a scar that runs from her puss to her belly button. She was advertised on backpage with a fake pic saying GFE spinner. She has a nose like a rodeo clown, and had a bad attitude. No dfk cause she was ugly, no fiv, no p to p as PapaSan claimed, only did BJ because of her rules and attitude, she wanted me to cum on those horrible sunken tits, not in her mouth, she then sucks after I face fuck her and say ok, she keeps sucking till I cum then says what the fuck? She stops and says she's going to go brush her teeth and clean up. I get dressed, she finally comes back, I leave her full tip, should have left just fifty for BJ, and walk out. Waste of $$. Thanks PapaSan. I'm warning others on other threads that Apple at Happiness is an old ugly MILF with lame service. She should be at Smile Spa or some other dive spa not Happiness!

Happiness has many shills. So easy to see who they are. They try to hide it by posting else where once in a while but when they report on other sites is way different from when they post on Happiness. And their report is so off. There was a post when someone pointed out all the Happiness shills and they stop posting for a while. Than again Happiness already made $$$ from all the mongers who believed the post and tried them out. Than Happiness simply move them out and get new ones. These shills than make new user name later. Believe reports from reliable members only. I learned the hard way too.

[SpinnerFan]

PapaSan posted a glowing review of Apple on the Happiness thread saying she was 23 and gave great service, this was total bs, she is a MILF at least 43 with the saggiest tits, droopy nipples, pooch, and a scar that runs from her puss to her belly button. She was advertised on backpage with a fake pic saying GFE spinner. She has a nose like a rodeo clown, and had a bad attitude. No dfk cause she was ugly, no fiv, no p to p as PapaSan claimed, only did BJ because of her rules and attitude, she wanted me to cum on those horrible sunken tits, not in her mouth, she then sucks after I face fuck her and say ok, she keeps sucking till I cum then says what the fuck? She stops and says she's going to go brush her teeth and clean up. I get dressed, she finally comes back, I leave her full tip, should have left just fifty for BJ, and walk out. Waste of $$. Thanks PapaSan. I'm warning others on other threads that Apple at Happiness is an old ugly MILF with lame service. She should be at Smile Spa or some other dive spa not Happiness!

[DeMeter]

You can't be arrested in a raid unless they can prove they caught you in the act. When a police raid happens, HPD already knows whp they are going after. They have information on them, evidence on them, charges already pending most of the time. You as a monger would be a new variable in the equation of this raid so unless they caught you in the act (and the girl is willing to testify) you can't be arrested during the raid. Though they never came there to arrest you in the first place.

I don't pay girls or nuna (MILF in korean language) for sex. I pay cause they listen to my boring weird bullshit and pretend to be so happy with me and act as if I were a good looking sexy guy in their dream list. I pay for their acting.

I don't know why they could fall in passionate love with me so so so quickly and how I made them so horny as if they were with chaning tatum or something like that. But it is not illegal that two adult commit one night stand so easily, yeah it is a matter of morality but not legal issue.

That is what I mean. I don't go to AMP to get sex. I just go there to see sexy girls' acting that make me feel like sexy stars. Sex is not main dish it is just a side dish like french fries to me but it just happens to me coincidentally there.

I don't know why I become so sexy to women at AMP!

[Blake123]

Okay let's just move on and start posting on reviews on the providers. If you want to continue please take it to "like beef polo". Want to know how good or bad the provider is. Enough.

This IS the "like beef lolo" thread.

[SureYourRight]

I have yet to read on this forum (or the newspaper) of a john being arrested in a raid.

You can't be arrested in a raid unless they can prove they caught you in the act. When a police raid happens, HPD already knows whp they are going after. They have information on them, evidence on them, charges already pending most of the time. You as a monger would be a new variable in the equation of this raid so unless they caught you in the act (and the girl is willing to testify) you can't be arrested during the raid. Though they never came there to arrest you in the first place.

[Bikini]

You can look at all the statements by the Prosecuting Attorney for C&C as to guidance regarding what the priority is in pursuing prostitution rackets. It has never centered on getting Johns and it never will. The focus has been on the establishments and to a lesser extent stopping human trafficking that sometimes goes along with it. VICE is not going to get active collaboration from working girls in the busting of Johns. VICE isn't going to try and the girls aren't going to play ball. Its also illegal. LE cannot use civilians to commit crimes to catch other criminals. I have said it before and I will say it again VICE and its UCs have their hands full with much more important cases, cases which are infinitely easier to bust and just as easy to prosecute. Everyone should already be aware that HPD is under Federal Investigation and even though there is a specific scope to that investigation, that doesn't mean the blinders will be on. Right now HPD is going to be careful, its not going to be doing anything stupid. The current crop of CIU guys are mostly good to go (if you're a monger). Meth is what they are looking for. If AMPs have anything to worry about, its ICE and not the Meth kind.

I have yet to read on this forum (or the newspaper) of a john being arrested in a raid.

[SirRegal]

If girls cooperation good, they are done. No need dicks for anything.

Right. The only reason the girl at Gogo coorperated was because she got busted going indy during Pro Bowl weekend.

[MightyMouth]

You can look at all the statements by the Prosecuting Attorney for C&C as to guidance regarding what the priority is in pursuing prostitution rackets. It has never centered on getting Johns and it never will. The focus has been on the establishments and to a lesser extent stopping human trafficking that sometimes goes along with it. VICE is not going to get active collaboration from working girls in the busting of Johns. VICE isn't going to try and the girls aren't going to play ball. Its also illegal. LE cannot use civilians to commit crimes to catch other criminals. I have said it before and I will say it again VICE and its UCs have their hands full with much more important cases, cases which are infinitely easier to bust and just as easy to prosecute. Everyone should already be aware that HPD is under Federal Investigation and even though there is a specific scope to that investigation, that doesn't mean the blinders will be on. Right now HPD is going to be careful, its not going to be doing anything stupid. The current crop of CIU guys are mostly good to go (if you're a monger). Meth is what they are looking for. If AMPs have anything to worry about, its ICE and not the Meth kind.

Okay let's just move on and start posting on reviews on the providers. If you want to continue please take it to "like beef polo". Want to know how good or bad the provider is. Enough.

[RiverRat22]

So let me clarify for you, I was leaving dream and as I walked down fort street 2 undercover police followed me and stoped me and showed be identification, informed me that Dream was under surveillance, that they have video evidence of Johns entering and leaving the establishment. That they have girls inside that are cooperating and and Johns and that they wanted me to cooperate. Tried to get me to corporate with threats, I pled the 5th and told them I would not corporate. He then gave me his police detective card and said if I changed my mind to call him. Look I really didn't have to say anything but felt that I should so take it how you want and make fun, we will see.

You can look at all the statements by the Prosecuting Attorney for C&C as to guidance regarding what the priority is in pursuing prostitution rackets. It has never centered on getting Johns and it never will. The focus has been on the establishments and to a lesser extent stopping human trafficking that sometimes goes along with it. VICE is not going to get active collaboration from working girls in the busting of Johns. VICE isn't going to try and the girls aren't going to play ball. Its also illegal. LE cannot use civilians to commit crimes to catch other criminals. I have said it before and I will say it again VICE and its UCs have their hands full with much more important cases, cases which are infinitely easier to bust and just as easy to prosecute. Everyone should already be aware that HPD is under Federal Investigation and even though there is a specific scope to that investigation, that doesn't mean the blinders will be on. Right now HPD is going to be careful, its not going to be doing anything stupid. The current crop of CIU guys are mostly good to go (if you're a monger). Meth is what they are looking for. If AMPs have anything to worry about, its ICE and not the Meth kind.

[Sukme]

If girls cooperation good, they are done. No need dicks for anything.

This sounds plausible. I think LE could have just tried to get guys to admit they're going there for certain services. I think you did the right thing not saying anything to them. If they really had girls who are cooperating, they would have closed it down by now. Why do they need guys to cooperate if they got the girls already? It seems LE wants you to admit to doing something suspect so they can bust you right then and there. It could have even been some cleaver robs trying to get you to admit to something, so they can blackmail you too. Who knows.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

-KK.

[Memahu]

BEWARE. After coming out of happiness, I noticed a few dudes hanging around across the street in front of Happiness. I came out and turn right to cross the street. One of the dude, about 5'6" stalky guy wearing a big gold chain followed me very close to me.

He can go to Happiness if he didn't spend his money on a big gold chain. If I could walk that way, I would run to the DMC.

[KalaniKoa]

So let me clarify for you, I was leaving dream and as I walked down fort street 2 undercover police followed me and stoped me and showed be identification, informed me that Dream was under surveillance, that they have video evidence of Johns entering and leaving the establishment. That they have girls inside that are cooperating and and Johns and that they wanted me to cooperate. Tried to get me to corporate with threats, I pled the 5th and told them I would not corporate. He then gave me his police detective card and said if I changed my mind to call him. Look I really didn't have to say anything but felt that I should so take it how you want and make fun, we will see.

This sounds plausible. I think LE could have just tried to get guys to admit they're going there for certain services. I think you did the right thing not saying anything to them. If they really had girls who are cooperating, they would have closed it down by now. Why do they need guys to cooperate if they got the girls already? It seems LE wants you to admit to doing something suspect so they can bust you right then and there. It could have even been some cleaver robs trying to get you to admit to something, so they can blackmail you too. Who knows.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

-KK.

[Tiger Shark 69]

From the way I've read your posting, you were about to walk into Dream, and some guys standing nearby outside said, "Psst, hey you! We're detectives who are surveilling this place, and we're working to shut it down." Am I correct? Why would they openly reveal such confidential LE info to you? I'm assuming they don't even know you from Adam. To me, this just doesn't add up the way it was written. Maybe you can please clarify? Finally, why would they single out Dream? It's just another AMP. Personally, I think HPD surveils all of the AMPs.

Also, the closing of GoGo Spa and Empire (and Mayflower) were cases with different circumstances.

So let me clarify for you, I was leaving dream and as I walked down fort street 2 undercover police followed me and stoped me and showed be identification, informed me that Dream was under surveillance, that they have video evidence of Johns entering and leaving the establishment. That they have girls inside that are cooperating and and Johns and that they wanted me to cooperate. Tried to get me to corporate with threats, I pled the 5th and told them I would not corporate. He then gave me his police detective card and said if I changed my mind to call him. Look I really didn't have to say anything but felt that I should so take it how you want and make fun, we will see.