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Jaelyn description
Any clues what she looks like??
 Originally Posted by DExplorer
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Got off work at 5 and headed down the Ave, saw two girls out a WSW and a LSW. Scooped the WSW and after LEO checks and intros found a nice quiet spot. Goes by the name Jaelyn. Damn but that girl can suck dick. She really got into it, change speed and technique multiple times. After multiple times of being ready to pop when I finally let go she took every drop. Did spit, but well worth the. 2. Unfortunately, no phone but I'll definitely repeat.
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 Originally Posted by Hargow20
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This is quite surprising. Did the guy actually drive 8 mile before they stopped him. ? My guess is that he did not get more than a block before they pulled them over.
From the pick up to being pulled over is 1 block exactly. It blew my mind when I saw it because I had the same thought as you did.
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This is quite surprising. Did the guy actually drive 8 mile before they stopped him. ? My guess is that he did not get more than a block before they pulled them over.
 Originally Posted by Jbfe147
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I've seen a sting on John are where the decoy was at Sammy D's and she got in and by the time they got to 8 mile they were swarmed with the Sheriff's deputies at the gas station. The same female rides around with another dep in a SUV.
I personally won't think about scooping a chick that I have never seen on the stroll before. I have to get some intel on her first whether it be just scoping her out for a few days or asking another SW the 411.
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I've witnessed this as well
 Originally Posted by CyberFrogiii
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I just wanted to say, I got caught up in a sting and the girl definitely got in my car. LE or decoy, whatever you want to call it, the statement "LEO WILL NEVER enter your car" could be misleading guys into a false sense of security.
Be safe out there.
Frogiii.
I've seen a sting on John are where the decoy was at Sammy D's and she got in and by the time they got to 8 mile they were swarmed with the Sheriff's deputies at the gas station. The same female rides around with another dep in a SUV.
I personally won't think about scooping a chick that I have never seen on the stroll before. I have to get some intel on her first whether it be just scoping her out for a few days or asking another SW the 411.
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Did the decoy actually get in your car and drive off with you before they busted you. ? Personally I have never actually seen a confirmed case where a police decoy actually got in and drove off with a guy. Now I have seen on cops where a decoy will step in a guys car and they will bust him before he closes the door and drives off. A good way to protect yourself is offer the girl a ride drive off 2 or 3 blocks before doing the cop check etc. There is actually case law that allows you give a girl a ride regardless if she is working girl or not. There is law called statutory interpretation that the law libraries have. Now if the cops did choose to bust you there is probably a you can fight this get the case dropped or win. Go hire a aggressive attorney and have him file a bunch of motions. Then go to the arraignment, plead not guilty and ask for a trial. They may drop the case then or you wait till start of the trial and see if they drop it then. If not you can always change your plea to guilty. The prosecutor will not hold it against you.
 Originally Posted by CyberFrogiii
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I just wanted to say, I got caught up in a sting and the girl definitely got in my car. LE or decoy, whatever you want to call it, the statement "LEO WILL NEVER enter your car" could be misleading guys into a false sense of security.
Be safe out there.
Frogiii.
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As Jd said, MDL speaks the truth.
 Originally Posted by SlickJr
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Decoy. SW work with LE too. LE probably watched you the whole time. That's why MDL said scout around before you scoop. You'll miss out on some, who get scooped by careless mongers, but better safe than sorry.
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 Originally Posted by CyberFrogiii
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I just wanted to say, I got caught up in a sting and the girl definitely got in my car. LE or decoy, whatever you want to call it, the statement "LEO WILL NEVER enter your car" could be misleading guys into a false sense of security.
Be safe out there.
Frogiii.
Decoy. SW work with LE too. LE probably watched you the whole time. That's why MDL said scout around before you scoop. You'll miss out on some, who get scooped by careless mongers, but better safe than sorry.
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I just wanted to say, I got caught up in a sting and the girl definitely got in my car. LE or decoy, whatever you want to call it, the statement "LEO WILL NEVER enter your car" could be misleading guys into a false sense of security.
Be safe out there.
Frogiii.
 Originally Posted by Gilfoyle
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The law is pretty vauge. The word "gesture" is used and by the fact that you stopped and looked at her is interpreted as signaling her or soliciting a prostitute. Trust me on this as I was caught under this technicality. The lawyer explained the law is completely left vauge so that it is left to interpretation. Especially in the detroit city. Yes, even a sneeze could be labeled as "Offer to engage". That said, a LEO WILL NEVER enter your car. Even if you stopped and said "I thought you were someone else" constitutes an "Offer to engage" and it is left upto the lawyer & prosecutor to work out how much you end up paying to hash it out in the courts. Keep in mind the system is setup such that they want to make money from this. This whole ordeal cost me 3. 5 g in 2007.
Sorry Tommy but there is no silver bullet or bullet proof method to avoid LEOs. I thought I was untouchable since I been doing this on weekly basis for 15 years near Wayne State and Triangle areas (those were the good old days). Then I was caught. The best risk free is to not to SW, meet at notel and dream all you want. Although I said that, I won't lie that picking a SW is extremely fun and heightens the intensity. The adrenaline runs high when picking a SW.
Best of luck and be safe folks.
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Fort street
Lots of LE activity around the "famous" apartments. Be careful.
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MDL speaks the truth.
JD.
 Originally Posted by MongerDl
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Never pick up a SW without surveying the area first. Once you are satisfied there are no stings going on. Ie. Unmarked cars girls that look way too good to be true. Then you make your pick up. Always try to do it off the main street. If she doesn't jump in or asks you anything like are you looking for some head? You simply say nope I thought you were someone else and leave. If she doesn't get right in your car or starts talking services she is most likely a cop. Once you do a complete check to satisfy your need to know if she is LEO, meaning she grabs your junk first and then you touch hers, then you can start discussing services. Never go to " her " spot. Always have a location a few miles away picked out. Someplace out of the hood and far enough away to make her think twice about pulling some bullshit. I often like to hide in plain sight. A parking lot with little activity. Or an apartment complex, senior home, or a court with no light or houses. Make sure all your valuables are locked up. Better yet leave them at home and only bring what your willing to loose. Just like the casino. If you want to go to a notell, that's the best way to do it. It's worth the coin if your looking to get more than a BJ. Again same rules apply here. If there is a notell off the main area. Good. But only if you have checked it out previously. And only go to the place YOU choose. Never let a girl say " oh I have a room " or " let's go to this fuck shack " that's just translation for my handler knows I go here and your about to get jacked, or that notell has a dealer and she can score some candy first. Which brings me to my next thought. Don't ever pay or loan a girl money first. EVER. Don't fall for give me 20 I just have to go pay this or my friends going to the store while we are gone. Again your getting ripped off and she is not coming back.
Guys remember, the streets have no forgiveness. Weakness will get you hurt or even killed. Always play by your rules. It's your money. If she doesn't like it. Tell her to kick rocks and get to stepping. Once she knows your not playing she will either stop her shit cause she sees you know the game or she will bounce. But be prepared for the ones that will threaten you for wasting they're time. Shit I've had to literally REMOVE a girl or two out of my vehicle. It's never pretty. If your not in shape to do that then just keep a 10 spot and tell her to politely fuck off. Me personally if a girl starts that BS with me I'm kicking her ass out the car. Period. If you car date, she gets her money when the job is complete. Period. You can be nice and show it to her so she knows your intentions are good if your a softy. If you go to a notel, once your in the room. LOCK THE DOOR. Never forget to lock the door behind you. I can't stress that enough. And on room dates I usually take the agreed upon donation and set it on the table under the ash tray or remote or lamp, so she knows it's hers yet it's somewhere that if she tries to jump up and grab it and go, the door is locked and you'll have time to catch her.
In NO way shape or form am I saying be mean or mistreat any of the girls. Remember they are humans too. Someone's daughter, sister, aunt, mom or even grandma. Treat them decent and be respectful. If they really please you or go above and beyond then show your $ apriciation. I've had way more good experiences then bad. Some of these girls have real good hearts and are just in a bad place in life. A kind gesture like a coat or a pair of warm thick socks or a sweatshirt could make them loyal to you for a long time. There is no reason you can't be nice to them, get them a toothbrush or deodorant or simply take to the drive thru and by them a combo meal. By saying everything I did at the start of this post I want to be clear that standing your ground and following rules to protect yourself and being a needle dick asshole are two totally different things. Be stern if they try to play you. Watch out for deceptions. But don't forget to take care of them too. The good ones are out there and you would be surprised how fast the word gets around to the other girls when you are a good " date ". I've had several girls that weren't able to meet set me up with another girl just because I was good to her.
And again if some of you lurkers or newbs have questions or are embarrassed to ask, just send me a private message. I won't laugh at you and I am always willing to give advice or info. The point of this forum is to share information and keep each other safe as well. Just remember to return the favors and share what you find. That's how you become trusted by other members.
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 Originally Posted by MaxxSwank
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Cruising the Triangle last night. Found Angel. Angel is white, about 5'-7" and thin. Dark medium length hair. Made the swoop and she hops in. The usual checks. We agree on BBBJ for 20.
After we agree I ask her where we should park. She asks if she can do this while I drive. I said no. She began to push-back saying there was no place to park and I have to drive. In my mind, this was the canceler so I start driving back to her spot. Now she starts complaining I'm driving in the wrong direction. Unpleasant customer skills. Once back to her spot I tell her to get out. She acts surprised.
She starts arguing, "why, why". Says "no" and demands I take her by the Vic. I told her, I'm leaving in 3 seconds and you don't have to get out. Then I rapidly count to three and start driving in the sub toward Grand River. She demands I take her back to Telegraph because she just walked from this area.
As we approach Grand River I tell her, you better jump out at the corner because I'm turning left on GR, you'll have one second. She's a smart ass at this point and defiantly tells me I can't turn left on GR. I stopped at the stop sign without saying anything then cut across GR and made the Michigan left headed towards Redford He, he, he. She says, where are you going? I told her back to Fowlerville. Now she tells me she wants out of the car. I told I'm not pulling over on GR, it's a busy street. LOL I got stopped by the traffic light and she just jumped out as fast as she could. She left my car door open and was still whining about something.
I don't think its a good idea to let a SW pick the spot.
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Triangle Jennifer
 Originally Posted by bean2002
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So went for a stroll in the Triangle today around 1:00 pm. Not much out, but as I was getting ready to leave I found Jennifer. Thin WSW with kinda a rough face, Candy was taking its toll. Did the usual check and agreed on. 2 for BBBJ. She did a great job and allowed roaming hands and went for about fifteen minutes. Took it like a champ.
I spotted Jennifer the other night. I swore it was a guy at first. The way she was dressed, she looked like Jay from those "Jay and Silent Bob" movies. LOL! I won't scoop her anymore. She has sticky fingers! Lifted some smokes from me a while back while smoking my pole.
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Not so easy
 Originally Posted by Tommy101
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...If she doesn't jump in or asks you anything like are you looking for some head? You simply say nope I thought you were someone else and leave. If she doesn't get right in your car or starts talking services she is most likely a cop. Once you do a complete check to satisfy your need to know if she is LEO, .... .
The law is pretty vauge. The word "gesture" is used and by the fact that you stopped and looked at her is interpreted as signaling her or soliciting a prostitute. Trust me on this as I was caught under this technicality. The lawyer explained the law is completely left vauge so that it is left to interpretation. Especially in the detroit city. Yes, even a sneeze could be labeled as "Offer to engage". That said, a LEO WILL NEVER enter your car. Even if you stopped and said "I thought you were someone else" constitutes an "Offer to engage" and it is left upto the lawyer & prosecutor to work out how much you end up paying to hash it out in the courts. Keep in mind the system is setup such that they want to make money from this. This whole ordeal cost me 3. 5 g in 2007.
Sorry Tommy but there is no silver bullet or bullet proof method to avoid LEOs. I thought I was untouchable since I been doing this on weekly basis for 15 years near Wayne State and Triangle areas (those were the good old days). Then I was caught. The best risk free is to not to SW, meet at notel and dream all you want. Although I said that, I won't lie that picking a SW is extremely fun and heightens the intensity. The adrenaline runs high when picking a SW.
Best of luck and be safe folks.
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 Originally Posted by DExplorer
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Got off work at 5 and headed down the Ave, saw two girls out a WSW and a LSW. Scooped the WSW and after LEO checks and intros found a nice quiet spot. Goes by the name Jaelyn. Damn but that girl can suck dick. She really got into it, change speed and technique multiple times. After multiple times of being ready to pop when I finally let go she took every drop. Did spit, but well worth the. 2. Unfortunately, no phone but I'll definitely repeat.
Also goes by J-lo. She goes to vernor also very good BJ skills.
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Chalmers
Finally figured out if your looking for girls in the area stay on Elmdale. Some stay at the apartment building on Elmdale and Chalmers you can pull up and honk they come from the apartment that is closest to Chalmers sometimes its hard to see them with the steps in the way. A few stay at the 2 houses on hays closest to west side elmdale and at Elmdale and Phillip the house closest to the SE corner. I have run across SW at those places in the last few weeks agin. I used to pick up V from those same houses last year Met a girl named T yesterday at the apartment building. I spent. 25 for a BBBJ nicely done. T is a WSW in her mid 20's aand an alright face. She was too bundeled up to know what her body was like but she's skinny.
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